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thegreatdivide said:
The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
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I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?0 -
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?
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They’ve seemingly now called up 70 year old artillery tractors armed with just a light machine gun for their ‘next offensive’.0
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Just thought I'd take a quick look... doesn't exactly seem like an army about to make substantial gains...
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Meanwhile I’ve been watching USAF Special Ops HC-130s over my house on daily missions to the Highlands that my geek mates, who are local to Mildenhall, claim to be loading up with ‘UF dressed people’.0
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Something is definitely on the cards.0
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theres a load of them bring trained across the UK at the mo'.thegreatdivide said:Meanwhile I’ve been watching USAF Special Ops HC-130s over my house on daily missions to the Highlands that my geek mates, who are local to Mildenhall, claim to be loading up with ‘UF dressed people’.
its open knowledge.
its all part of a long term phase 1 training plan for there bods who havd never done anything green..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yeah saw that. And according to their trainers they’re machines for the learning.0
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You don’t get put in the back of an HC-130 unless your ‘special’ though. The HC is a serious bit of kit0
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UF doing HALO? That’s special.0
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Grindingly slow isn't it. Let's hope they keep sending enough of the ****ers back in body bags until the Russians realise they're not going to win.thegreatdivide said:
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
parity or near as dammit on IDF assets according to reports today.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Seeing as it is mostly not ethnic Russians but soldiers from the various central Asian regions that are getting slaughtered I doubt Putin or the average Muscovite GAF.Stevo_666 said:
Grindingly slow isn't it. Let's hope they keep sending enough of the ****ers back in body bags until the Russians realise they're not going to win.thegreatdivide said:
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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And the longer it drags on with no appreciable progress, the more military resources it uses, the higher the cost, the harder it becomes to keep justifying it. Etc.rjsterry said:
Seeing as it is mostly not ethnic Russians but soldiers from the various central Asian regions that are getting slaughtered I doubt Putin or the average Muscovite GAF.Stevo_666 said:
Grindingly slow isn't it. Let's hope they keep sending enough of the ****ers back in body bags until the Russians realise they're not going to win.thegreatdivide said:
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And that’s the Ukrainian Government asking citizens of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia to evacuate if they can. The big southern UF push is about to begin.0
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imposter2.0 said:
I think you're confusing 'projection' with 'influence'. Either that, or I missed the bit where BBC World Service employees got into a firefight with the Taliban in Helmand....shirley_basso said:The UK is a nuclear power. That is a projection of power.
As a member of the G7, that is a projection of power.
Even the BBC World Service is a projection of power.
I imagine the BBC could deploy more people to Helmand than the british armyimposter2.0 said:
I think you're confusing 'projection' with 'influence'. Either that, or I missed the bit where BBC World Service employees got into a firefight with the Taliban in Helmand....shirley_basso said:The UK is a nuclear power. That is a projection of power.
As a member of the G7, that is a projection of power.
Even the BBC World Service is a projection of power.
Depends if the Yanks see $4bn a month as a cheap way of draining Russian resources.Stevo_666 said:
And the longer it drags on with no appreciable progress, the more military resources it uses, the higher the cost, the harder it becomes to keep justifying it. Etc.rjsterry said:
Seeing as it is mostly not ethnic Russians but soldiers from the various central Asian regions that are getting slaughtered I doubt Putin or the average Muscovite GAF.Stevo_666 said:
Grindingly slow isn't it. Let's hope they keep sending enough of the ****ers back in body bags until the Russians realise they're not going to win.thegreatdivide said:
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?
If Trump starts driving around in a red bus promising to stop funding foreign wars and spend $2bn a week on blue collar workers then Zelensky could be in trouble0 -
Can Putin live beyond the next US presidential election ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Yes.DeVlaeminck said:Can Putin live longer beyond the next US presidential election ?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Let's hope he doesn't and whoever takes over has a different view of this war.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Cheap? Unlikely.surrey_commuter said:imposter2.0 said:
I think you're confusing 'projection' with 'influence'. Either that, or I missed the bit where BBC World Service employees got into a firefight with the Taliban in Helmand....shirley_basso said:The UK is a nuclear power. That is a projection of power.
As a member of the G7, that is a projection of power.
Even the BBC World Service is a projection of power.
I imagine the BBC could deploy more people to Helmand than the british armyimposter2.0 said:
I think you're confusing 'projection' with 'influence'. Either that, or I missed the bit where BBC World Service employees got into a firefight with the Taliban in Helmand....shirley_basso said:The UK is a nuclear power. That is a projection of power.
As a member of the G7, that is a projection of power.
Even the BBC World Service is a projection of power.
Depends if the Yanks see $4bn a month as a cheap way of draining Russian resources.Stevo_666 said:
And the longer it drags on with no appreciable progress, the more military resources it uses, the higher the cost, the harder it becomes to keep justifying it. Etc.rjsterry said:
Seeing as it is mostly not ethnic Russians but soldiers from the various central Asian regions that are getting slaughtered I doubt Putin or the average Muscovite GAF.Stevo_666 said:
Grindingly slow isn't it. Let's hope they keep sending enough of the ****ers back in body bags until the Russians realise they're not going to win.thegreatdivide said:
Here’s an excellent animated map of Russia grinding down Ukraine.surrey_commuter said:
I do not share your optimism, I think they are being ground down and I see nothing to stop itrick_chasey said:
I think the UF is also realistic about their limitations - their supply lines are also not very elastic and they don't have the resources for a material offensive.thegreatdivide said:The UF are also very successfully pummelling the Russian rear supply lines and depots (no doubt located thanks to intel from locals) using the MLRS systems and very long range artillery. At some point Ivan's elastic will snap again - as it did in the North. They might have lots of dumb artillery shells, but they have a lot less manpower to hold any ground taken. They definitely don't have enough if/when the UF try and retake Kherson.
Presumably the tactic is to defend-in-depth and play for strategic time to build up resources to be able to launch full scale offensives themselves?
If Trump starts driving around in a red bus promising to stop funding foreign wars and spend $2bn a week on blue collar workers then Zelensky could be in trouble
Worth it? Possibly. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
More aggressive sanctions after Georgia and Crimea would have been cheaper than the war but here we are0
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62218696
highlights the long-term idiocy of the usa's policy on iran (meekly and foolishly followed by usa allies), which, let's face it, came down to having a hissy fit over it's humiliation when the locals overthrew the usa-backed loathsome dictator and took out their grievances on the embassy
since then, all that iran sanctions have achieved is to drive iran into an ever more extreme position, benefiting no one
the iranian people were always among the most liberal in the middle east, but they've had to endure the replacement loathsome regime (which is really appalling now), because of decades of refusal to compromise and encourage/reward better behaviour
my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
so its safe to say you're not a fan?sungod said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62218696
highlights the long-term idiocy of the usa's policy on iran (meekly and foolishly followed by usa allies), which, let's face it, came down to having a hissy fit over it's humiliation when the locals overthrew the usa-backed loathsome dictator and took out their grievances on the embassy
since then, all that iran sanctions have achieved is to drive iran into an ever more extreme position, benefiting no one
the iranian people were always among the most liberal in the middle east, but they've had to endure the replacement loathsome regime (which is really appalling now), because of decades of refusal to compromise and encourage/reward better behaviour.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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You think aggressive sanctions would have stopped Putin's madness? I'm thinking it might have prompted him to go in sooner.rick_chasey said:More aggressive sanctions after Georgia and Crimea would have been cheaper than the war but here we are
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The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yeah.Munsford0 said:
You think aggressive sanctions would have stopped Putin's madness? I'm thinking it might have prompted him to go in sooner.rick_chasey said:More aggressive sanctions after Georgia and Crimea would have been cheaper than the war but here we are
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