Tour de France route 2017

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  • RoadPainter
    RoadPainter Posts: 375
    inseine wrote:
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    Views from the top of Mont du Chat....not bad (that's Mont Blanc in the far distance)
    And Chambery airport in the foreground. Pity there are only flights to there during ski season, would be great for a Tour weekend! Geneva not far away though.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Not really a friendly route for Channel hopping, had hoped to nip over for a weekend on the Channel coast or the north.
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    RichN95 wrote:
    The staff aren't going to welcome that 800km transfer on the penultimate night.

    And the bike sponsors won't like the small amount of TT.

    ?? only got to leave the tt bikes down there and cars and a van - they probably don't even need to go to Paris - this is a multi million pound operation - not a second cat team and a man with a van :)

    if the cars do have to go up - and the usual driving speed of team cars is observed - they should do the 450 mile trip in a not too stressful 4 hours :shock:
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    alanparsons wrote:
    WTF is Bardet wearing??????

    school uniform?
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    La Course to be run on the Isoard stage rather than in Paris. will be the same day as the men tackle it.

    all 67km of it...wait hold on...wtf :shock:

    the women dont even get to finish at the summit,its just 10km upto Casse Déserte, even the Etape is going to take the full distance and climb. :evil:

    and thats it just another 1 day race after all the fuss about moving races around on the calendar and expanding it. sheesh
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    RoadPainter wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    TO_summit_Mont_du_Chat_73.JPG

    Views from the top of Mont du Chat....not bad (that's Mont Blanc in the far distance)
    And Chambery airport in the foreground. Pity there are only flights to there during ski season, would be great for a Tour weekend! Geneva not far away though.
    They shouldn't use it during ski season either as it's awful, they can't cope with more than one plane at a time...
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    The staff aren't going to welcome that 800km transfer on the penultimate night.

    And the bike sponsors won't like the small amount of TT.

    I read somewhere that it'll probably be skeleton staff only in Marseille, but yes, a very long overnight drive to Paris which won't be popular amongst the mechanics etc.

    The Paris stage probably starts late afternoon too.
    No need to wake the family early and leave the camp site at 6am to walk for hours from the park and ride.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Is 13km long enough to guarantee a Tony Martin victory?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Is 13km long enough to guarantee a Tony Martin victory?
    No. He tends to like longer ones. Dennis and Dumoulin will be right up there with him if present.
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  • Crampeur
    Crampeur Posts: 1,065
    SpecialGuestStar wrote:
    alanparsons wrote:
    WTF is Bardet wearing??????

    school uniform?

    Still, at least it looks like he likes the route:

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    If they had a French Doctor Who, he'd dress like Bardet

    Anyway, are their any mountain stage profiles knocking around somewhere?
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  • RoadPainter
    RoadPainter Posts: 375
    The profiles of the 6 mountain stages are up on steephill now - on stage 17, they're descending what I think is the scary side of the Galibier (I hate driving up that side, let alone descending down it) followed by a fairly straight descent off the Lautaret where I suspect they'll hit some decent top speeds.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    RoadPainter wrote:
    The profiles of the 6 mountain stages are up on steephill now
    Thanks

    I wonder which stage Froome will see as his time to make his first move. Stage 5 is an old hunting ground but it's early to take yellow.
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    This seems like a course designed to give the little Colombian a better chance to show what he's made of! Are they desperate to have a Colombian winner or something?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Bardet's gettup is infinitely better than that badly fitted black jacket. Black!? Come on!
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Bardet's gettup is infinitely better than that badly fitted black jacket. Black!? Come on!

    yeah, I saw that and wondered... maybe the plane lost his luggage and he just grabbed something on the way in...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kleinstroker wrote:
    This seems like a course designed to give the little Colombian a better chance to show what he's made of! Are they desperate to have a Colombian winner or something?
    Which little Colombian? More a course for Chaves than Quintana I'd say.
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    RichN95 wrote:
    kleinstroker wrote:
    This seems like a course designed to give the little Colombian a better chance to show what he's made of! Are they desperate to have a Colombian winner or something?
    Which little Colombian? More a course for Chaves than Quintana I'd say.

    Hadn't thought of that. Won't happen though, as doubt OBE will be able to support him and whichever of the Yates boys goes, assuming one of them does .
    In general I think it a good thing to shift the weighting of the tour around to stop the big TT riders like Froome from dominating too much. He'll still have plenty of opportunities but won't be able to rely on pulling back minutes in the TT.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    kleinstroker wrote:
    This seems like a course designed to give the little Colombian a better chance to show what he's made of! Are they desperate to have a Colombian winner or something?

    Maybe, being in France with French organisers, they've got an eye on a French winner at last :wink:
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dish_dash wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Bardet's gettup is infinitely better than that badly fitted black jacket. Black!? Come on!

    yeah, I saw that and wondered... maybe the plane lost his luggage and he just grabbed something on the way in...

    More Froome bias again ;)
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    kleinstroker wrote:
    This seems like a course designed to give the little Colombian a better chance to show what he's made of! Are they desperate to have a Colombian winner or something?

    Maybe, being in France with French organisers, they've got an eye on a French winner at last :wink:

    That too, in fact I bet the thinking is anyone but Froome.

    This is the 3D tour, worth a watch.

    https://youtu.be/Ryc1uMEVY4g
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,820
    TT distances will be limited as long as Froome is so much better than the rest of the GC riders at TTing.

    As for calling Dennis and Dumoulin for the TTs, that's surely the longest range PTP pick ever?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    TT distances will be limited as long as Froome is so much better than the rest of the GC riders at TTing.

    As for calling Dennis and Dumoulin for the TTs, that's surely the longest range PTP pick ever?

    Was a period between 2010 and 2014 where you would go Cancellara for all flat monuments.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    TT distances will be limited as long as Froome is so much better than the rest of the GC riders at TTing.

    As for calling Dennis and Dumoulin for the TTs, that's surely the longest range PTP pick ever?

    Was a period between 2010 and 2014 where you would go Cancellara for all flat monuments.
    There was a period when you could probably get close to winning PTP by just using the three Cs - Cancellara, Contador and Cavendish.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I'm just catching up with this after a hectic week!

    I'm liking the route. The Mont du Chat is a bugger and the descent as andyp says is not so nice. Also not so far from Lyon airport as it goes.

    As for the Galibier stage... Obligatory Mont Blanc in the distance shot (climbed up to that look out point (and down again) above the pass in my cleats beat that Froome!)

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    Galibier stage also promises some good cow action on the descent... Careful for these roadblockers.

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    Oh and the Izoard stage will be beautiful to watch on the telly.

    EDIT - I wonder if this means they will resurface the roads in Briancon. God they need it.
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    At first glance, one word: lightweight.

    I've always thought it would be nice to have a GT that a rider like Cancellara or Sagan could win. Seems every since Le Tour found the high mountains they've been used to decide the GC ever since. Would lead to more contenders for GC and maybe a better fight for first.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    http://inrng.com/2016/11/2017-tour-de-france-route/

    Just read the Inrng preview - Stage 9 looks a beast! Stages 17 and 18 look good too.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Is the consensus still that it favours Bardet?

    Are there any obvious losers?

    I'd guess Froome given the shortage of TT kms.


    I haven't had a look but are there some more tough 210+km mountain stages?

    That was a big problem with the route this year. Too short to shed the domestiques until final few Km (if at all)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    I haven't had a look but are there some more tough 210+km mountain stages?
    Just Stage 12

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  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is the consensus still that it favours Bardet?

    Are there any obvious losers?

    I'd guess Froome given the shortage of TT kms.


    I haven't had a look but are there some more tough 210+km mountain stages?

    That was a big problem with the route this year. Too short to shed the domestiques until final few Km (if at all)

    Lack of TT kms allows Froome to focus his training on climbing - should see him back to his climbing best, which I'm not sure anyone else can live with. It would be good to see a real contest though and Quintana / Bardet should fancy their chances. Do we know who OBE will have for GC? If either of Yates or Chaves continue to progress like the past year then they could be right up there in the mix.
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