Are bulk powders and portien shakes good for your health?

thejames

Are bulk powders/ protein shakes good for your health even in a balance diet? Are their any bad effects the sudden influx of nutrients that these drinks give your body? What about the persevatives in them? Can they cause diabtetes? cancer?

Would be more than help full if you can help with this.

thank you!

mamil314

Do you want us to google/bing this for you? As for Bulk Powders, i find it's a good value shop, my favourite product of their's is 100% Cacao Buttons that were instrumental in my cravings management and weight loss.

fat daddy

moderation .... everything in moderation

use a protein shake to hit your balanced diet macros of Protien, Fat and Carbs + nutrients and there is no issues ........ eat a diet of Protien shakes and nothing else and expect parts of your body not to function as they should.

Same goes with cake, sweets, steak, bacon, bread .... eat them in moderation as part of a balanced diet and they are ALL good for you ..... eat just cake, and .. well .... die !

smudgerii

It's simple really... It is food not a mystery substance. Eat what you need/want to achieve your nutritional goals.


As with any processed food you need to read the label. I personally avoid any with high carb values, tend to stick with choc flavour which I blend with natural peanut butter a little olive oil & ice for a 'snickers' tasting smoothie

sloppyschleckonds

Smudgerii wrote:

tend to stick with choc flavour which I blend with natural peanut butter a little olive oil & ice for a 'snickers' tasting smoothie

It will never replace proper food.

cougie

You don't need powders. Just food.

LanterneRouge010

thejames wrote:

Are bulk powders/ protein shakes good for your health even in a balance diet? Are their any bad effects the sudden influx of nutrients that these drinks give your body? What about the persevatives in them? Can they cause diabtetes? cancer?

Would be more than help full if you can help with this.

thank you!

Are you trying to bulk up?

smudgerii

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Smudgerii wrote:

tend to stick with choc flavour which I blend with natural peanut butter a little olive oil & ice for a 'snickers' tasting smoothie

It will never replace proper food.

I'd be happy for you to define "proper" in respect to food. I came here to learn about cycling but willing to learn about absolutely anything really. Every little bit helps.

smudgerii

LanterneRouge010 wrote:

thejames wrote:

Are bulk powders/ protein shakes good for your health even in a balance diet? Are their any bad effects the sudden influx of nutrients that these drinks give your body? What about the persevatives in them? Can they cause diabtetes? cancer?

Would be more than help full if you can help with this.

thank you!

Are you trying to bulk up?

What makes you ask that question? It always seems to crop up when protein powders are mentioned.

daniel_b

mamil314 wrote:

Do you want us to google/bing this for you? As for Bulk Powders, i find it's a good value shop, my favourite product of their's is 100% Cacao Buttons that were instrumental in my cravings management and weight loss.

These ones?

http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/organic-cacao-liquor-buttons.html

Any idea what the weight is of the bag - struggling to find it on that webpage, but picture would make it seem fairly small?

sungod

500g...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Cacao- ... B01DT7VE4Q

plenty of other sources for the same

also, imho the op's question was about protein/others powders that can be had in bulk, not the company bulk powders

carl_p

Have been linked with kidney stones. Unless you're into serious body building I really can't see the need for them.

sungod

Carl_P wrote:

Have been linked with kidney stones. Unless you're into serious body building I really can't see the need for them.

as have eggs, meat and fish, because it's nothing to do with real vs unreal food (whatever that is), it's simply a potential risk associated with long term high protein intake irrespective of source

the point of things like whey protein is they're fast and cheap (if you shop around)

sungod

thejames wrote:

Are bulk powders/ protein shakes good for your health even in a balance diet? Are their any bad effects the sudden influx of nutrients that these drinks give your body? What about the persevatives in them? Can they cause diabtetes? cancer?

Would be more than help full if you can help with this.

thank you!

they are no different from any other food, the processes of digestion and metabolism don't care, they just get on with it

cancer? some studies have indicated increased cancer risk from meat etc. cooked at high temperatures (enough to brown), does that help?

don't worry about this stuff, nor about people saying xyz is good/bad because it's 'real' or not 'real', just do what you prefer

AK_jnr

I 'bodybuild' without eating meat and taking supplements and I pack on muscle no problem. Not that I am against them, I just stopped buying protein.

BarleyPointer

cougie wrote:

You don't need powders. Just food.

What he said :-) /\/\/\/\

Some interesting stuff on here.. less is more :-)

http://www.optimumnutrition4sport.com

Websta24

Protein shakes should never be used to replace a whole meal, that would be silly. But immediately after training you will struggle to find something as convenient and macro-nutrient dense, that can begin to assist your body in the recovery process.

If Shakes are only for bodybuilders, we wouldn't see athletes from pretty much all sports having a shake immediately post exercise. Its because they are a quick and convenient to begin the recovery process after intense exercise!

There have been arguments for and against for years and years, but the benefits have been clearly laid out in many studies.

Redbaron1

End of the day they are a convenience product. Can't say I have ever enjoyed consuming them. By all means try them but don't use them as a substitute.

mrb123

If you eat a healthy, balanced diet then it is highly unlikely that you are deficient in protein.

A glass of milk and a handful of nuts and raisins immediately after exercise would do the job of any powder or shake and be entirely natural.

ugo.santalucia

You can get exactly the same nutrients in skimmed milk, which, unless you are allergic to lactose, has proven over the millenia to be OK health wise. The long term effects of using these products are not well known or understood... they simply have not been around long enough to know what they do to your health in 20 or 30 years of use... so I know where I'd rather go

fat daddy

You can get the same nutrients but not in the same macro quantities

For 100kcal of milk you get 12g carbs, 8g of Protien an 2gof fat

For 100kcal whey you get 5g carbs and 20g Protien

If you are looking to up Protien then whey us better .... If you want more carbs, milk is better.

There are no bad foods ... Just bad diets, eat according to your goals

smudgerii

fat daddy wrote:

You can get the same nutrients but not in the same macro quantities

For 100kcal of milk you get 12g carbs, 8g of Protien an 2gof fat

For 100kcal whey you get 5g carbs and 20g Protien

If you are looking to up Protien then whey us better .... If you want more carbs, milk is better.

There are no bad foods ... Just bad diets, eat according to your goals

Sadly your good info will be lost in the 'net' science that is spouted of so often... Just look at the posts about unknown long term effects etc.

DeVlaeminck

Better to consume protein in foods which also contain other micro nutrients. The only reason to consume powders is if you have a hugely elevated protein requirement maybe a body builder on steroids or if you have a diet particularly low on protein which is unlikely in the uk.

OnTheRopes

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Better to consume protein in foods which also contain other micro nutrients. The only reason to consume powders is if you have a hugely elevated protein requirement maybe a body builder on steroids or if you have a diet particularly low on protein which is unlikely in the uk.

Or when you cannot get protein foods directly after a ride or race. That is when I take protein shake, if I have a hard training session, get home and a meal is a while off then I dont want to ruin my meal so have a shake.

meanredspider

You don't really need protein immediately after exercise - your body will use it when it can get it and can't store it anyway so the vast majority of what you take in will be excreted. What you should get immediately is carbs because your insulin levels peak directly after exercise and will preferentially replace your glycogen stores. If you take on some protein at that point it's fine but less critical. A good time, apparently, to top up protein intake is before bed - but small and steady is the way to go with protein for most of us (especially for road cycling where we don't need to bulk up)

thebikeboy16

what do the pros do re bp and ps?

imposter2.0

thebikeboy16 wrote:

what do the pros do re bp and ps?

Whatever their sponsors tell them, usually...

stueys

OK, google how whey protein is made for an example.

Supplements have their place, ultimately eating a balanced diet is the answer to most questions but many of us are trying to reduce carbs and increase fat and protein and it's hard to hit the macro targets when you are balancing work, life, etc, etc. Supplementing is an easy way to get the level of nutrients you wanted, especially for protein. If you buy good quality supplements there's no harm at all.

charlie_potatoes

Smudgerii wrote:

fat daddy wrote:

You can get the same nutrients but not in the same macro quantities

For 100kcal of milk you get 12g carbs, 8g of Protien an 2gof fat

For 100kcal whey you get 5g carbs and 20g Protien

If you are looking to up Protien then whey us better .... If you want more carbs, milk is better.

There are no bad foods ... Just bad diets, eat according to your goals

Sadly your good info will be lost in the 'net' science that is spouted of so often... Just look at the posts about unknown long term effects etc.

It's always the same with posts of this nature.
You just need to sort the wheat out from the chaff......... or maybe the whey from the curds

smudgerii

Charlie Potatoes wrote:

Smudgerii wrote:

fat daddy wrote:

You can get the same nutrients but not in the same macro quantities

For 100kcal of milk you get 12g carbs, 8g of Protien an 2gof fat

For 100kcal whey you get 5g carbs and 20g Protien

If you are looking to up Protien then whey us better .... If you want more carbs, milk is better.

There are no bad foods ... Just bad diets, eat according to your goals

Sadly your good info will be lost in the 'net' science that is spouted of so often... Just look at the posts about unknown long term effects etc.

It's always the same with posts of this nature.
You just need to sort the wheat out from the chaff......... or maybe the whey from the curds

StillGoing

Herbalife F1 shakes and bars are good made from natural products and for targeted health and weight loss/gain. When used with an active physical exercise plan, they assist with tonal development. You can only buy them though from a Herbalife distributor or by becoming a distributor yourself and benefiting from the available discounts. Like all supplements, you should read up on the products first.