Road teams for Rio
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:seanorawe wrote:Im baffled by the choice of Emma Pooley. She looked in terrible shape at the Aviva tour and well off the pace. We shall have to wait and see but she looked unfit compared to the rest of the peloton.
They've taken a big gamble.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think if Pooley doesn't improve greatly in the Giro Rosa, she will ask BC to de-select her. Pooley is a very fair person. From a personal view she won't want to go to Rio without being competitive and without being able to help Lizzie. And she won't be deaf to the outcries over King.
well in the interview before the TT she gave to the TV, Pooley said she'd only been back full time riding the bike for a few weeks, so wasnt predicting podiums/results, which surprised me, but probably explains the current form.0 -
Where did she finish today?0
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I would have thought with a month to go and such a lack of racing she'd have been riding at every opportunity.0
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Pross wrote:I would have thought with a month to go and such a lack of racing she'd have been riding at every opportunity.
No idea0 -
Pooleys named on the start list for Lotto Soudal at the Giro Rosa which starts on Friday, probably a better test of improving form over a tougher parcours, not sure what that Stockton course would of proved for her as a build up race.0
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Cummings finished top 20 at LBL this year, apart from the temperature it must be the most similar course to Rio.
FYI - Froome finished ten minutes down.
Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
^But Froome's a more likely a medal prospect though - in the TT0
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PuttyKnees wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Does the UK not have a mountain biker?
It has an excellent one in Grant Ferguson (possibly top 5 result but more likely top 10), a really good one in Annie Last, but she has been injured almost continuously since London and one up and coming possible world champion in Evie Richards. The problem is that GB didn't accumulate sufficient points to automatically quality, some say because BC sent riders compete in road races instead of points hunting. It's caused a massive uproar. If there is a place available, then I'd expect them to send Grant, and then if another comes up I'm not sure because they didn't pick Annie Last for the XCO World Champs and I'm not sure Richards has UCI points as she is a u23.
Thanks for the detailed response. Sounds a bit odd, but there is nothing about Olympic selection that ever seems straight-forward.0 -
Mad_Malx wrote:^But Froome's a more likely a medal prospect though - in the TT
Of course. I am not questioning Froome's selection. Just pointing out that Cummings had a good performance at LBL as the top British finisher.
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ContrelaMontre wrote:Mad_Malx wrote:^But Froome's a more likely a medal prospect though - in the TT
Of course. I am not questioning Froome's selection. Just pointing out that Cummings had a good performance at LBL as the top British finisher.
Agree, and if it wasn't for the rule about having the TTer in the squad I wouldn't select Froome for the RR.
Is he going to be a superdom for someone else - or is the plan to keep the opposition guessing and see what happens ?0 -
RichN95 wrote:Why wouldn't you pick Froome? This is a full on climber's race. There's an 8.5 km climb, the first half of which is over 9%. They do it four times. This isn't like and any other one day race on the calendar. Not even Lombardy.
Terrain more suited to Cummings than Stannard then (though I appreciate Stannard will be useful in the opening section). Kennaugh is a gamble given his recent lack of racing though at his best could have been a dark horse and useful early option to allow G, Froome and Yates to take it easy. There's no obvious leader in the squad though.0 -
Interestingly neither the two recently crowned national road race champions or the two TT champions are going to Rio.Eddy Merckx EMX-3
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andyp wrote:poppit wrote:Interestingly neither the two recently crowned national road race champions or the two TT champions are going to Rio.
It's only interesting if you think the courses for the Nationals were remotely equivalent to the courses in Rio.
Naw... I was just about to find it interesting but now you've spoiled it.
Why can't people just let other people come up with clever observations that sit nicely on the page without introducing snide or sense?0 -
Pross wrote:There's no obvious leader in the squad though.
I'm sure the two time Tour de France winner begs to differ.0 -
Shadowrider wrote:Pross wrote:There's no obvious leader in the squad though.
I'm sure the two time Tour de France winner begs to differ.
How many one day races has he ever won? Since when is winning a 3 week stage race even vaguely comparable to winning a one day race? Yates is probably the best hope.0 -
Pross wrote:Shadowrider wrote:Pross wrote:There's no obvious leader in the squad though.
I'm sure the two time Tour de France winner begs to differ.
How many one day races has he ever won? Since when is winning a 3 week stage race even vaguely comparable to winning a one day race? Yates is probably the best hope.
Since when was there the prospect of such a prestigious one day race that suited him so well so soon after the Tour?0 -
Well I hope he gets the result he truly does deserve
In other news, that Colombian team, eh? (Soz if I'm late to the party on that one)0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Pross wrote:Shadowrider wrote:Pross wrote:There's no obvious leader in the squad though.
I'm sure the two time Tour de France winner begs to differ.
How many one day races has he ever won? Since when is winning a 3 week stage race even vaguely comparable to winning a one day race? Yates is probably the best hope.
Since when was there the prospect of such a prestigious one day race that suited him so well so soon after the Tour?
I'm with Pross. Despite the climbing and his TT abilities, I don't recall him ever finishing highly in a stage with a 20km run-in to the finish like Rio. I'd go with the likes of Valverde.0 -
Pross wrote:Shadowrider wrote:Pross wrote:There's no obvious leader in the squad though.
I'm sure the two time Tour de France winner begs to differ.
How many one day races has he ever won? Since when is winning a 3 week stage race even vaguely comparable to winning a one day race? Yates is probably the best hope.
Yates is the only British winner of a top class lumpy 1 day race (San Sebastian) in the past few years I think?
GTs E3 win the only other WT 1 day win since Cav's MSR?0 -
In athletics you need to achieve a qualifying standard and then then be in the first 2 at the national championships, the third place is then down to the NGB to decide. You could have a variation of this for the road race and TT but only if in Olympic year the courses for both are similar to the Olympic course. Set a performance criteria that a qualifying rider needs to meet e.g. so many top 10s or world ranking, and then see what happens at the nationals. If this is set well in advance then the riders will know exactly what they've got to do. Obviously for the TT it'll just be the winner as there is only one place available. Hopefully then you'll get most of the top riders preparing for and racing in the nationals unlike what happens at the moment. The existing system seems to be a bit random and not that fair to the riders.OCDuPalais wrote:andyp wrote:poppit wrote:Interestingly neither the two recently crowned national road race champions or the two TT champions are going to Rio.
It's only interesting if you think the courses for the Nationals were remotely equivalent to the courses in Rio.
Naw... I was just about to find it interesting but now you've spoiled it.
Why can't people just let other people come up with clever observations that sit nicely on the page without introducing snide or sense?Eddy Merckx EMX-3
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poppit wrote:
In athletics you need to achieve a qualifying standard and then then be in the first 2 at the national championships, the third place is then down to the NGB to decide. You could have a variation of this for the road race and TT but only if in Olympic year the courses for both are similar to the Olympic course. Set a performance criteria that a qualifying rider needs to meet e.g. so many top 10s or world ranking, and then see what happens at the nationals. If this is set well in advance then the riders will know exactly what they've got to do. Obviously for the TT it'll just be the winner as there is only one place available. Hopefully then you'll get most of the top riders preparing for and racing in the nationals unlike what happens at the moment. The existing system seems to be a bit random and not that fair to the riders.OCDuPalais wrote:andyp wrote:poppit wrote:Interestingly neither the two recently crowned national road race champions or the two TT champions are going to Rio.
It's only interesting if you think the courses for the Nationals were remotely equivalent to the courses in Rio.
Naw... I was just about to find it interesting but now you've spoiled it.
Why can't people just let other people come up with clever observations that sit nicely on the page without introducing snide or sense?
Isn't the bit in bold exactly what they did for King and then chose to ignore it?
I don't see an athletics style selection process working as cycling is generally about team work to support the lead rider. Also, athletics tends to be definitive in the best person winning.0 -
poppit wrote:In athletics you need to achieve a qualifying standard and then then be in the first 2 at the national championships, the third place is then down to the NGB to decide. You could have a variation of this for the road race and TT but only if in Olympic year the courses for both are similar to the Olympic course. Set a performance criteria that a qualifying rider needs to meet e.g. so many top 10s or world ranking, and then see what happens at the nationals. If this is set well in advance then the riders will know exactly what they've got to do. Obviously for the TT it'll just be the winner as there is only one place available. Hopefully then you'll get most of the top riders preparing for and racing in the nationals unlike what happens at the moment. The existing system seems to be a bit random and not that fair to the riders.
Great in theory but would not work in picking the best team; you'd end up with all leaders and no domestiques.0 -
Dangerfield is a cooler name than any of our current competitors that's for sure.0
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Obviously it's not identical, but in last years Tour, stage 3 was over many of the roads used in LBL and Froome came in 2nd place to take the yellow jersey. I wonder if he hasn't performed in the Ardennes classics because he isn't really that bothered rather than because he can't do it.0
