Criterium du Dauphine 2016 pre race chat

kleinstroker

My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM

specialgueststar

kleinstroker wrote:

My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM

that's a 4Km pursuit - up the banking

bobmcstuff

That is an awesome prologue route!

jam1e

No messing around there!

joelsim

Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.

RichN95.

Joelsim wrote:

Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.

What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

joelsim

RichN95 wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.

What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

iainf72

Joelsim wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.

What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?

joelsim

iainf72 wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.

What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?

Of course not. At least not until it is brought forward a few days.

RichN95.

iainf72 wrote:

Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?

The rainbow will be there. Sagan always does Suisse.

Velon on the other hand will partner with Wang Jianlin, buy out RCS and ASO and create an closed shop World Tour in which the French teams will be the biggest losers. And it will catch people by surprise because the media are too busy trying to make motorised doping into an actual thing.

takethehighroad

How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?

jimmythecuckoo

That looks a pretty steep hill. No chance of a prologue specialist nailing that I would have thought.

kleinstroker

Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

specialgueststar

kleinstroker wrote:

Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

why would you??

The_Boy

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

kleinstroker wrote:

Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

why would you??

For the lulz. There's literally no other reason.

Dorset_Boy

The prologue hill looks perfect for my post Etape recovery ride.................................... Not!
(But might have to 'ave a go later that week.

milton50

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?

Probably. He did it last year.

RonB

You would want to get your warm up routine just right for this stage :shock:

ugo.santalucia

There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

ocdupalais

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
On the other hand, it might not...


I love bike racing.

RichN95.

OCDuPalais wrote:

On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
On the other hand, it might not...

I look forward to the social media 'experts' comparing the estimated powers to those that Armstrong did on 30 minute climbs in the third week of the Tour.

(It will need over 7W/kg to win)

ugo.santalucia

OCDuPalais wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
On the other hand, it might not...


I love bike racing.

It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing

ugo.santalucia

RichN95 wrote:

(It will need over 7W/kg to win)

I agree... but it's a different ball game, as you say. My VAM for long alpine climbs is somewhere around 900-950 mt/h, but I can easily pull out a 1100-1200 on 5-10 minutes climbs, especially if they are steep

kleinstroker

the prologue route

BikeRadarAdmin

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

Last year Froome beat TJVG by 10 secs, so could mean a lot!

specialgueststar

ugo.santalucia wrote:

OCDuPalais wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
On the other hand, it might not...


I love bike racing.

It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing

you would still be on the warm up - its only 4k

Dorset_Boy

And the race has a rare finish in the best ski resort in the world, Meribel.

kleinstroker

Simon Yates confirmed for Dauphine, a bit odd don't you think?

http://www.skysports.com/cycling/news/15264/10295944/simon-yates-confirmed-to-race-criterium-du-dauphine-in-june

The_Boy

He's not banned, is he?

kleinstroker

He's not banned but will no doubt be the target of the press, and so bring unwanted media attention.

joelsim

It will focus the authorities to make a decision.

In other news Landa to ride the race in support of the dawg.