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Criterium du Dauphine 2016 pre race chat

kleinstrokerkleinstroker Posts: 2,130
edited June 2016 in Pro race
My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM
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  • specialgueststarspecialgueststar Posts: 3,242
    My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

    Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

    Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM
    PROFIL.jpg

    that's a 4Km pursuit - up the banking
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,053
    That is an awesome prologue route!
  • jam1ejam1e Posts: 905
    No messing around there!
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,891
    joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?
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  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.
  • iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,774
    joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

    Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

    Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?

    Of course not. At least not until it is brought forward a few days.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,891
    iainf72 wrote:
    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?
    The rainbow will be there. Sagan always does Suisse.

    Velon on the other hand will partner with Wang Jianlin, buy out RCS and ASO and create an closed shop World Tour in which the French teams will be the biggest losers. And it will catch people by surprise because the media are too busy trying to make motorised doping into an actual thing.
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  • takethehighroadtakethehighroad Posts: 5,423
    How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?
    My Men 2020 - Mark Cavendish, Ben Swift, Fernando Gaviria, Alejandro Valverde, Edvald Boassen Hagen, Zdenek Stybar, Vincenzo Nibali, Geraint Thomas.
  • jimmythecuckoojimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,405
    That looks a pretty steep hill. No chance of a prologue specialist nailing that I would have thought.
  • kleinstrokerkleinstroker Posts: 2,130
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?
  • specialgueststarspecialgueststar Posts: 3,242
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

    why would you??
  • The_BoyThe_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

    why would you??

    For the lulz. There's literally no other reason.
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  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 2,504
    The prologue hill looks perfect for my post Etape recovery ride.................................... Not!
    (But might have to 'ave a go later that week.
  • milton50milton50 Posts: 3,892
    How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?

    Probably. He did it last year.
  • RonBRonB Posts: 3,984
    You would want to get your warm up routine just right for this stage :shock:
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,219
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are
  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,638
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,891
    ocdupalais wrote:
    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...
    I look forward to the social media 'experts' comparing the estimated powers to those that Armstrong did on 30 minute climbs in the third week of the Tour.

    (It will need over 7W/kg to win)
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,219
    ocdupalais wrote:
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.

    It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 24,219
    RichN95 wrote:

    (It will need over 7W/kg to win)

    I agree... but it's a different ball game, as you say. My VAM for long alpine climbs is somewhere around 900-950 mt/h, but I can easily pull out a 1100-1200 on 5-10 minutes climbs, especially if they are steep
  • kleinstrokerkleinstroker Posts: 2,130
    the prologue route

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  • There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    Last year Froome beat TJVG by 10 secs, so could mean a lot!
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  • specialgueststarspecialgueststar Posts: 3,242
    ocdupalais wrote:
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.

    It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing

    you would still be on the warm up - its only 4k
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 2,504
    And the race has a rare finish in the best ski resort in the world, Meribel.
  • The_BoyThe_Boy Posts: 3,099
    He's not banned, is he?
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  • kleinstrokerkleinstroker Posts: 2,130
    He's not banned but will no doubt be the target of the press, and so bring unwanted media attention.
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    It will focus the authorities to make a decision.

    In other news Landa to ride the race in support of the dawg.
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