Criterium du Dauphine 2016 pre race chat

kleinstroker
kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
edited June 2016 in Pro race
My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM
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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    My favourite race of the season, barring the tour!

    Can't wait to see the prologue as it's gonna be a killer, we will see if Froome is on form or not after the first day.

    Stage 1 Prologue Les Gets / Les Gets 3.9KM
    PROFIL.jpg

    that's a 4Km pursuit - up the banking
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    That is an awesome prologue route!
  • jam1e
    jam1e Posts: 1,066
    No messing around there!
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,137
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

    Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nairo has announced no Dauphine or Suisse, so the main contenders are likely to be Froome, Contador, Aru, Lady Garden & Purito.
    What's Pinot doing? Suisse again?

    Oh yes, him too. Dauphine.

    Suisse looks pretty poor. G, Lopez, Costa, Spilak and not much else so far.

    Steady on - With their revenue sharing deal Velon have done I've been assured TdS will have a killer line up....

    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?

    Of course not. At least not until it is brought forward a few days.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,137
    iainf72 wrote:
    Although, so far it just looks like exactly the same people who usually do TdS will be there. Velon - Will there ever be a rainbow?
    The rainbow will be there. Sagan always does Suisse.

    Velon on the other hand will partner with Wang Jianlin, buy out RCS and ASO and create an closed shop World Tour in which the French teams will be the biggest losers. And it will catch people by surprise because the media are too busy trying to make motorised doping into an actual thing.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,599
    How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,712
    That looks a pretty steep hill. No chance of a prologue specialist nailing that I would have thought.
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

    why would you??
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Will anyone bother to use a TT bike in this ITT?

    why would you??

    For the lulz. There's literally no other reason.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,876
    The prologue hill looks perfect for my post Etape recovery ride.................................... Not!
    (But might have to 'ave a go later that week.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    How's Nairo getting ready for the Tour then? Route du Sud?

    Probably. He did it last year.
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    You would want to get your warm up routine just right for this stage :shock:
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,172
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are
    left the forum March 2023
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,224
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,137
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...
    I look forward to the social media 'experts' comparing the estimated powers to those that Armstrong did on 30 minute climbs in the third week of the Tour.

    (It will need over 7W/kg to win)
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,172
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.

    It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing
    left the forum March 2023
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,172
    RichN95 wrote:

    (It will need over 7W/kg to win)

    I agree... but it's a different ball game, as you say. My VAM for long alpine climbs is somewhere around 900-950 mt/h, but I can easily pull out a 1100-1200 on 5-10 minutes climbs, especially if they are steep
    left the forum March 2023
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    the prologue route

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  • There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    Last year Froome beat TJVG by 10 secs, so could mean a lot!
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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    There's no hiding up that climb... although they'll go up in 12-13 minutes or so, so I expect the best to be within 30 seconds from the winner... hard to say how meaningful 10-20 seconds are

    On the one hand, as a test of the power to weight status of the GC contenders, I'd have thought that such a short but brutal climb (all but eradicating so many of those annoying factors that normally cloud such discussions: wind, road surface, aerodynamics, etc) would make "10-20 seconds" very meaningful.
    On the other hand, it might not...


    I love bike racing.

    It does in a way... but 10 seconds are 10 seconds... you puncture 5 miles to the finish and you lose a minute at least, so in the grand scheme of things is nothing

    you would still be on the warm up - its only 4k
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,876
    And the race has a rare finish in the best ski resort in the world, Meribel.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    He's not banned, is he?
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    He's not banned but will no doubt be the target of the press, and so bring unwanted media attention.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    It will focus the authorities to make a decision.

    In other news Landa to ride the race in support of the dawg.