Transfers 2017 : Rumours and fact

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Robert Kiserlovski to Katusha next year.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Kelderman to Giant-Alpecin.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    andyp wrote:
    Kelderman to Giant-Alpecin.

    Done earlier. Sunweb-Giant actually... rumour is that Alpecin are moving over to Katusha...
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    How has Goss done domestically this season? I don't particularly follow British results too closely

    He was 9th in a stage of the Tour of Langkawi.

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?id=140784

    Abysmally, then...

    Those results are shocking

    Dreadful. I saw him step off on the 2nd time up to Ranmore Common during RideLondon and it just seemed to sum up his career for the last few years. Real pity. You don't win MSR and silver at the Worlds without having class. His confidence just fell through the floor and hasn't stopped falling.

    He's announced his retirement today.

    http://oneprocycling.com/former-milan-s ... he-season/
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    ^That's actually pretty sad. Obviously has talent, shame to see a career peter out like that and end at 29.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Speaking of retirement, Cameron Meir is also retiring to run his Girona coffee shops...
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Yesterday's ToB stage winner, Jack Bauer, is leaving Cannondale-Drapac at the end of the year. No news yet on where he's going but he's got a contract elsewhere.

    Also, Mike Teunissen is leaving Lotto-Jumbo for Sunweb Giant Alpecin. He'll be a good addition to their classics squad.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Gasparotto to Bahrain-Merida (from Wanty)
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Sergio Henao is staying with Sky for two more years (He had been linked with Bahrain)
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    From the 2016 Transfers thread
    dish_dash wrote:
    Katusha appear to be attempting to transfer out of Russia...

    Confirmed. Katusha are to be Swiss registered next year... No more Russian Cycling Project. Only five Russian riders.

    Ekimov says Russian corporate don't have the cash to sponsor them (little surprise).
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    dish_dash wrote:
    From the 2016 Transfers thread
    dish_dash wrote:
    Katusha appear to be attempting to transfer out of Russia...

    Confirmed. Katusha are to be Swiss registered next year... No more Russian Cycling Project. Only five Russian riders.

    Ekimov says Russian corporate don't have the cash to sponsor them (little surprise).

    Alpecin-Katusha. Looking forward to seeing Tony Martin and Zakarin doing ropy shampoo adverts next year.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • JackTar
    JackTar Posts: 77
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Following on from JackTar's post, panic stations at Qhubeka clearly as they don't have enough points...

    And this bit had me chuckling... I'd quite fancy Purito "riding" for Qhubeka
    Cyclingnews has also learned that some of the teams still vying for a WorldTour licence have approached Joaquim Rodriguez. The veteran Spaniard is set to retire but his WorldTour points and his signature could be crucial. Teams could potentially sign him on a contract for next year even if he does not race a full programme
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    JackTar wrote:
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain

    BTW given that Lampre are now turning into the Chinese cycling project I trust that we'll get the same pitchforks out as for Bahrain. China's human rights track record is horrendous... far, far worse then Bahrain's.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    dish_dash wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain

    BTW given that Lampre are now turning into the Chinese cycling project I trust that we'll get the same pitchforks out as for Bahrain. China's human rights track record is horrendous... far, far worse then Bahrain's.
    But aren't the people behind the Bahrain project actually responsible for rights abuses themselves? The Chinese money is from Wang Jianlin not the government
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    RichN95 wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain

    BTW given that Lampre are now turning into the Chinese cycling project I trust that we'll get the same pitchforks out as for Bahrain. China's human rights track record is horrendous... far, far worse then Bahrain's.
    But aren't the people behind the Bahrain project actually responsible for rights abuses themselves? The Chinese money is from Wang Jianlin not the government

    AFAIK the government is backing the team, but getting Chinese corporates to pay for it (Wang Jianlin being just one potential sponsor, they don't own TJ Sport). And the government has the bad HR record.
    "The government decides everything and in our case it's the Ministry of Sport," Saronni explained.
  • JackTar
    JackTar Posts: 77
    dish_dash wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain

    BTW given that Lampre are now turning into the Chinese cycling project I trust that we'll get the same pitchforks out as for Bahrain. China's human rights track record is horrendous... far, far worse then Bahrain's.
    Team Dimension Data it is then! He could do with a new team anyway, hopefully a Cav-style reinvigoration is on the cards
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    JackTar wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    According to CN Swift has offers from Bahrain, Dimension Data and Lampre. Really hope he doesn't go to Bahrain

    BTW given that Lampre are now turning into the Chinese cycling project I trust that we'll get the same pitchforks out as for Bahrain. China's human rights track record is horrendous... far, far worse then Bahrain's.
    Team Dimension Data it is then! He could do with a new team anyway, hopefully a Cav-style reinvigoration is on the cards

    I'd be happy with that!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    dish_dash wrote:
    Following on from JackTar's post, panic stations at Qhubeka clearly as they don't have enough points...

    ]

    How come? Thought they were doing alright, but is a mere 5 tdf stages not enough?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Following on from JackTar's post, panic stations at Qhubeka clearly as they don't have enough points...

    ]

    How come? Thought they were doing alright, but is a mere 5 tdf stages not enough?

    It's because the points system is warped and doesn't reflect anything actual fans care about.
  • JackTar
    JackTar Posts: 77
    andyp wrote:
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
    Jaw dropping? What's jaw dropping? That's nothing like what the great Swifty should be on :wink:
    But seriously, in a world where Bouhanni asks for a million is Swift on €500k that surprising? He does have two monument podiums (more than anyone else on sky)
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Following on from JackTar's post, panic stations at Qhubeka clearly as they don't have enough points...

    ]

    How come? Thought they were doing alright, but is a mere 5 tdf stages not enough?

    It's because the points system is warped and doesn't reflect anything actual fans care about.

    Your team needs to finish consistently high up to get points. So Cannondale have won much less than Qhubeka but they've got more top 10s and so have more points - I think that's how it works. It's a slightly surreal situation...
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    dish_dash wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Following on from JackTar's post, panic stations at Qhubeka clearly as they don't have enough points...

    ]

    How come? Thought they were doing alright, but is a mere 5 tdf stages not enough?

    It's because the points system is warped and doesn't reflect anything actual fans care about.

    Your team needs to finish consistently high up to get points. So Cannondale have won much less than Qhubeka but they've got more top 10s and so have more points - I think that's how it works. It's a slightly surreal situation...
    That's what I meant :D
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    JackTar wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
    Jaw dropping? What's jaw dropping? That's nothing like what the great Swifty should be on :wink:
    But seriously, in a world where Bouhanni asks for a million is Swift on €500k that surprising? He does have two monument podiums (more than anyone else on sky)

    Bouhanni has 51 pro wins, including 5 GT stages, to Swift's 15. He's also French so will always benefit from the rivalry between French teams to earn more.

    I think Swift is a good rider, but he's never going to win as many races as Bouhanni.
  • jscl
    jscl Posts: 1,015
    andyp wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
    Jaw dropping? What's jaw dropping? That's nothing like what the great Swifty should be on :wink:
    But seriously, in a world where Bouhanni asks for a million is Swift on €500k that surprising? He does have two monument podiums (more than anyone else on sky)

    Bouhanni has 51 pro wins, including 5 GT stages, to Swift's 15. He's also French so will always benefit from the rivalry between French teams to earn more.

    I think Swift is a good rider, but he's never going to win as many races as Bouhanni.
    At least when Swifty wins, his result stands, I guess ;)
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  • JackTar
    JackTar Posts: 77
    andyp wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
    Jaw dropping? What's jaw dropping? That's nothing like what the great Swifty should be on :wink:
    But seriously, in a world where Bouhanni asks for a million is Swift on €500k that surprising? He does have two monument podiums (more than anyone else on sky)

    Bouhanni has 51 pro wins, including 5 GT stages, to Swift's 15. He's also French so will always benefit from the rivalry between French teams to earn more.

    I think Swift is a good rider, but he's never going to win as many races as Bouhanni.
    Hence why he'd be on half the money? I wasn't suggesting he was better but just that if a rider of Bouhannni's abilities can get a million then it's not outlandish for Swift to get half of that
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    andyp wrote:
    JackTar wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    You missed the jaw dropping moment from that CN article on Swift, he's being offered €500k per year. :shock:
    Jaw dropping? What's jaw dropping? That's nothing like what the great Swifty should be on :wink:
    But seriously, in a world where Bouhanni asks for a million is Swift on €500k that surprising? He does have two monument podiums (more than anyone else on sky)

    Bouhanni has 51 pro wins, including 5 GT stages, to Swift's 15. He's also French so will always benefit from the rivalry between French teams to earn more.

    I think Swift is a good rider, but he's never going to win as many races as Bouhanni.

    Bouhanni also signed his contract at a time when there was a dearth of riders of his calibre available - I particularly sprinters who are useful even when they don't cross the line first. He'll likely be taking a pay cut when he comes to look for a new contract.

    Swift is looking for a ride at a time when two WT teams have folded.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Bonfazzio off despite having a contract with trek for next season
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    There are rumours of teams desperate for World Tour points offering Rodriguez a big one year contract just for his points (with no intention for him to actually ride)
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