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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759947#p19759947]Hercules Rockefeller[/url] wrote:
Vayer? Wasn't he one of those guys that was wrong about Armstrong for years?[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759837#p19759837]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport · 14m14 minutes ago
Update - I'll be doing a couple of podcasts with @JeroenSwart next week, discussing the obvious, but also broader views on doping in sport
Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport · 12m12 minutes ago
Those podcasts will be with @lionelbirnie (@cycling_podcast) & @SSbike. Not sure of exact dates, will post soon, but should be interesting!
Discussing the obvious? I can't think of anything that's caused any fuss this week.
What to buy the missus for Christmas, and which wine to serve with the turkey.
( although I'm not sure Vayer drinks wine.....)
Here you go fella, pop back in.
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Nah, can't stand that place. It's so bitter that they could serve it with some lemonade and a dash of lime.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759947#p19759947]Hercules Rockefeller[/url] wrote:
Vayer? Wasn't he one of those guys that was wrong about Armstrong for years?[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759837#p19759837]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport · 14m14 minutes ago
Update - I'll be doing a couple of podcasts with @JeroenSwart next week, discussing the obvious, but also broader views on doping in sport
Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport · 12m12 minutes ago
Those podcasts will be with @lionelbirnie (@cycling_podcast) & @SSbike. Not sure of exact dates, will post soon, but should be interesting!
Discussing the obvious? I can't think of anything that's caused any fuss this week.
What to buy the missus for Christmas, and which wine to serve with the turkey.
( although I'm not sure Vayer drinks wine.....)
Here you go fella, pop back in.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=ae263bcda029ab9f3f6824dd874f62a0Supporter of Sky, transparency and clean cycling. Opponent of pseudoscience.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759926#p19759926]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:They'll be discussing who had a better classics campaign; Kristoff, Valverde, or Degenkolb, obviously.
They'll also be discussing the upcoming Sporza new years season summary: the ultimate cycling montage.
Phwoaaar
I just bought the sporza jersey
Montage due in the next 2 weeks?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759955#p19759955]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759926#p19759926]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:They'll be discussing who had a better classics campaign; Kristoff, Valverde, or Degenkolb, obviously.
They'll also be discussing the upcoming Sporza new years season summary: the ultimate cycling montage.
Phwoaaar
I just bought the sporza jersey
Montage due in the next 2 weeks?
Bloody hope so, I can't take much more offseason.0 -
Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.0
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Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher0 -
Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.
True but over 6,500 people still think he has something relevant to say on cycling (or are interested in how he stacks the mats at the end of the lesson)0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.
Truly worthy of storifying. He has not a scintilla of a clue. NoT A Doc tried to be helpful, too :-)0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760545#p19760545]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.
Truly worthy of storifying. He has not a scintilla of a clue. NoT A Doc tried to be helpful, too :-)
One does one's best.
What was mind-boggling was that he didn't even seem to understand, in the slightest, what was being explained to him. I know he's a PE teacher not a maths teacher, but I honestly think he'd struggle to count the correct number of netball players on the team.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760545#p19760545]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.
Truly worthy of storifying. He has not a scintilla of a clue. NoT A Doc tried to be helpful, too :-)
One does one's best.
What was mind-boggling was that he didn't even seem to understand, in the slightest, what was being explained to him. I know he's a PE teacher not a maths teacher, but I honestly think he'd struggle to count the correct number of netball players on the team.
How's your french?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760545#p19760545]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19760283#p19760283]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Vayer being shown up on Twitter again.
Back to 1st grade for the PE teacher
Yesterday's exchanges were some of my faves. Surely even his faithful must be realising he's a complete clown now.
Truly worthy of storifying. He has not a scintilla of a clue. NoT A Doc tried to be helpful, too :-)
One does one's best.
What was mind-boggling was that he didn't even seem to understand, in the slightest, what was being explained to him. I know he's a PE teacher not a maths teacher, but I honestly think he'd struggle to count the correct number of netball players on the team.
How's your french?
About as bad as Vayer's maths.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Classic USPS defence - attack the messengers.0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761106#p19761106]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:Classic USPS defence - attack the messengers.
If exposing their lack of expertise and deconstructing their arguments using evidence and logic is "attacking the messenger", then how do we ever resolve a disagreement?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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So very true, if Vayer knew his stuff, then maybe Festina wouldn't have needed to use all those PEDs. And any hack can get an advanced degree in physiology - just ask Michael Ashenden[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761110#p19761110]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761106#p19761106]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:Classic USPS defence - attack the messengers.
If exposing their lack of expertise and deconstructing their arguments using evidence and logic is "attacking the messenger", then how do we ever resolve a disagreement?Supporter of Sky, transparency and clean cycling. Opponent of pseudoscience.
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Blimy, is this still going.... :shock:0
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It seems so. Those bitter haters from the Clinic keep popping their heads in the door and giving the pot a stir. Surely they can accept the evidence :roll:Blimy, is this still going.... :shock:Supporter of Sky, transparency and clean cycling. Opponent of pseudoscience.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761129#p19761129]Hercules Rockefeller[/url] wrote:
It seems so. Those bitter haters from the Clinic keep popping their heads in the door and giving the pot a stir. Surely they can accept the evidence :roll:Blimy, is this still going.... :shock:
Tbh mate, the majority of your posts are a list of cyclists who either were professional in the early-mid '00s, or names that I've never heard of and don't bring up anything even if I google "<X name> cycling".
We get it. You're in the know. Why not branch out beyond tired refererences and chat about, y'know actual racing. You're entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong, but it's normally good practice when you touch upon known trolling topics to branch out. Gives you more chance for benefit of the doubt.
Be keen to know who's riding style you like; what your favourite 2015 race was?
I don't think you've shared any of that with anyone. Any reason why that is?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761106#p19761106]Rodrego Hernandez[/url] wrote:Classic USPS defence - attack the messengers.
I agree.
Vayer has attacked the messenger Swart with a smokescreen of innuendo, supposition, false facts and fiddled numbers.
Classic USPS defence."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761129#p19761129]Hercules Rockefeller[/url] wrote:
It seems so. Those bitter haters from the Clinic keep popping their heads in the door and giving the pot a stir. Surely they can accept the evidence :roll:Blimy, is this still going.... :shock:
Tbh mate, the majority of your posts are a list of cyclists who either were professional in the early-mid '00s, or names that I've never heard of and don't bring up anything even if I google "<X name> cycling".
We get it. You're in the know. Why not branch out beyond tired refererences and chat about, y'know actual racing. You're entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong, but it's normally good practice when you touch upon known trolling topics to branch out. Gives you more chance for benefit of the doubt.
Be keen to know who's riding style you like; what your favourite 2015 race was?
I don't think you've shared any of that with anyone. Any reason why that is?
Well said Rick. The trolls are so tedious.0 -
Fans of The Cycling Podcast should give them a listen - to part convo with Swart and Tucker, with a little comment part at the end.
Freibe nails it. Birnie pokes Tucker a bit and Swart has a word or two for Vayer.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Tucker's sense of entitlement is strong. His attitude is that because he and others have doubts then all information - power, medical - should be made publicly available. There's absolutely no respect for the athlete themselves.Fans of The Cycling Podcast should give them a listen - to part convo with Swart and Tucker, with a little comment part at the end.
Freibe nails it. Birnie pokes Tucker a bit and Swart has a word or two for Vayer.
What really made that clear was nothing to with cycling but his remarks about Castor Semenya, who has gender issues (nothing suspicious - read Epstein for info on chromosomes). He wanted all the medical information out there so we could be sure - there was no empathy for Semenya herself (who was 18 at the time), her rights and any prejudice she could face.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Just posted by Dr Mark Burnley on his blog. The last paragraph nails it.
https://drmarkburnley.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/this-oxygen-uptake-value-doesnt-look-right-on-interpreting-exercise-tests-in-athletes/0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762238#p19762238]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Just posted by Dr Mark Burnley on his blog. The last paragraph nails it.
https://drmarkburnley.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/this-oxygen-uptake-value-doesnt-look-right-on-interpreting-exercise-tests-in-athletes/
That's 5 mins of my life I'll never have back.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762238#p19762238]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Just posted by Dr Mark Burnley on his blog. The last paragraph nails it.
https://drmarkburnley.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/this-oxygen-uptake-value-doesnt-look-right-on-interpreting-exercise-tests-in-athletes/
That's 5 mins of my life I'll never have back.
Fortunately Dec ain't a taxing month for recruiters :-)0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762266#p19762266]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762238#p19762238]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Just posted by Dr Mark Burnley on his blog. The last paragraph nails it.
https://drmarkburnley.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/this-oxygen-uptake-value-doesnt-look-right-on-interpreting-exercise-tests-in-athletes/
That's 5 mins of my life I'll never have back.
Fortunately Dec ain't a taxing month for recruiters :-)
I'm doing my best here!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Around 18:00 Swart gives the 'faster than Armstrong' narrative a kicking. Tucker is slimy and disingenuous against the clarity from Swart: especially on the context of Froome's performances.
I doubt Brailsford will survive this confirmation that he couldn't manage the most gifted rider of his generation 8) This is perhaps the real reason Sky is unwilling to release Froome data around the 2011 'transformation'....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762266#p19762266]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19762238#p19762238]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Just posted by Dr Mark Burnley on his blog. The last paragraph nails it.
https://drmarkburnley.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/this-oxygen-uptake-value-doesnt-look-right-on-interpreting-exercise-tests-in-athletes/
That's 5 mins of my life I'll never have back.
Fortunately Dec ain't a taxing month for recruiters :-)
Take it you've never had to do BD?0
