Donald Trump

imposter2.0

itboffin wrote:

Imposter wrote:

mrfpb wrote:

Imposter wrote:

mrfpb wrote:

Flynn was a three star General.

A 3* general who was also good mates with Russia's political elite. How TF does that work?

Was as in past tense. He was a retired "private citizen" when attending socials with Putin and discussing sanctions with the Russian gov't.

My point is that Kellog's military record is no guarantee of political competence.

No, I agree. Was just highlighting the 'unusual' situation of a US 3* general apparently having so many high-level Russian contacts, before taking office.

its not unusual at all, at the senior level in the military you will more likely spend lots of time with others of similar ranks and above from foreign countries if you happen to have a posting abroad moreso even than your peers, I have no idea if he did mind, if he didnt then that would be very unusual indeed.

Agree that high level contacts within his peer group would not be unusual. But I was thinking more about the pic of him sitting next to Putin at dinner. Reverse the positions - can you imagine a 'regular' Lt Gen from the British Army sitting next to the US president at a social function?

tangled_metal

Does Trump have any connection to reality? Serious question.

slowmart

rolf_f

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

rick_chasey

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

People like to hear leaders who talk like they do.

Ergo....

kingstongraham

The classic Trump piece was claiming that he had the largest electoral college victory since Reagan as proof of something or other. Then when it was pointed out that Obama and George HW Bush had larger, just saying "well, I've seen that information around" - it doesn't matter that it's rubbish when he says it.

kingstongraham

bendertherobot wrote:

This may well be the beginning of the end. He's not well, not well at all.

Uranium, lol.

To be fair, lots of things are done with Uranium, including some bad things.

bianchimoon

did anyone see the news night piece on him last night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-16022017
especially at 11:20 mins in, are his advisers deluding him or has he deluded his advisers, or perhaps mass delusion!

bendertherobot

Gorka lied about being an expert witness at the marathon bomber trial. Outright lied.

kingstongraham

bianchimoon wrote:

did anyone see the news night piece on him last night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-16022017
especially at 11:20 mins in, are his advisers deluding him or has he deluded his advisers, or perhaps mass delusion!

Holy crap. That's not delusion, it's deliberate characterisation of any question as hostile opposition.

Matthewfalle

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

It's not just the US that have a large percentage of imbeciles in their population.

Trump has appealed to a demographic in the US that voted for him - his bizarre behaviour now is something they have to live with. Problem is, we may have to live with it too.

Matthewfalle

And bang goes another environmental law......... he really doesn't give a brass razoo.

bianchimoon

The uranium quote
"You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things."
Did he really think some of the world's most experienced journalists didn't know what uranium was, it was like he had just been given some secret military briefing and he was explaining uranium to 5 years olds.

imposter2.0

KingstonGraham wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

did anyone see the news night piece on him last night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-16022017
especially at 11:20 mins in, are his advisers deluding him or has he deluded his advisers, or perhaps mass delusion!

Holy crap. That's not delusion, it's deliberate characterisation of any question as hostile opposition.

That guy is genuinely frightening. Google 'Sebastian Gorka medal' for more entertainment...

rolf_f

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

kingstongraham

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

and if that doesn't happen?... it will make what we're seeing now will seem positively liberal, no one can take it for granted that it will change, the big worry is if he and his clan get an endorsement from the voters

rolf_f

KingstonGraham wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

Whereas with Brexit, any suggestion of another vote on whether it is still what people want is greeted with wailing that this would be undemocratic........

ballysmate

Rolf F wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

Whereas with Brexit, any suggestion of another vote on whether it is still what people want is greeted with wailing that this would be undemocratic........

I assume you are being ironic


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/13/ireland
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4592243.stm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/ ... u.politics

dinyull

bianchimoon wrote:

The uranium quote
"You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things."
Did he really think some of the world's most experienced journalists didn't know what uranium was, it was like he had just been given some secret military briefing and he was explaining uranium to 5 years olds.

Frighteningly similar to his first day in office signing off on his executive orders - asking the assembled press if they knew what it was what they were looking at..... Of course they did, but someone had obviously just explained them to him minutes earlier.

Personal favourite from his presser - "the leaks are real, the news is fake".

Saw a bit from Fox News last night slamming him and his performance - I thought Fox would tickle his balls no matter what? Are they starting to turn on him?

bianchimoon

Dinyull wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

The uranium quote
"You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things."
Did he really think some of the world's most experienced journalists didn't know what uranium was, it was like he had just been given some secret military briefing and he was explaining uranium to 5 years olds.

Frighteningly similar to his first day in office signing off on his executive orders - asking the assembled press if they knew what it was what they were looking at..... Of course they did, but someone had obviously just explained them to him minutes earlier.

Personal favourite from his presser - "the leaks are real, the news is fake".

Saw a bit from Fox News last night slamming him and his performance - I thought Fox would tickle his balls no matter what? Are they starting to turn on him?

i'll have to google the fox news slamming him, that would be interesting viewing

dinyull

Google Shep Smith

bianchimoon

Dinyull wrote:

Google Shep Smith

he's more orange than trump he is/was one of the two fox reporters that have some credibility

kingstongraham

bianchimoon wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

and if that doesn't happen?... it will make what we're seeing now will seem positively liberal, no one can take it for granted that it will change, the big worry is if he and his clan get an endorsement from the voters

Up to them, isn't it? Noone can say they didn't know what they were getting at that point.

bendertherobot

Shep Smith is apparently the black sheep of the Fox News family. That said, even the main anchor did a WTF moment last night when they cut back to the studio.

This is the man who claims he's the most intelligent man he's ever met.

bianchimoon

KingstonGraham wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

Surely no American should be doing anything other than cringing with embarrassment now? Surely? This is what happens when you give the job of US President to an 8 year old.

It's the US equivalent of Brexit - a lot of people in GB are standing there going "wtf have we done", a lot are still really happy about it.

There is a difference. You can make Brexit sound like it makes some sort of rational sense - at least superficially. But however you look at it, whatever your beliefs, Trump is clearly someone who at best has no competence for his role whatsoever and at worst is probably a bit backward. He has no knowledge of what he is talking about and is rapidly becoming an international joke. The only way he will make things happen is by destabilising situations (Israel comes to mind) - that might appeal to some gun toting hicks I suppose but Trump didn't get elected by those alone.

How long before other world leaders will be openly pointing and laughing at him?

The other difference is they get to change their minds after 4 years.

and if that doesn't happen?... it will make what we're seeing now will seem positively liberal, no one can take it for granted that it will change, the big worry is if he and his clan get an endorsement from the voters

Up to them, isn't it? Noone can say they didn't know what they were getting at that point.

yup, you get what you vote for, i'm fortunate i live in Britain where people don't make false promises and vote for something based on keeping immigrants out etc







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letap73

A lot of Americans get their news from Breibart:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/ ... ever-seen/

dinyull

I love it how they just brush off the Russian hacks/links as if they're nothing.

bendertherobot

Illegal leaks of fake news.

Any sane person would laugh before they said it.

bianchimoon

bendertherobot wrote:

Illegal leaks of fake news.

Any sane person would laugh before they said it.

a guy in the pub last week 'a highly qualified chemical engineer' said to me, do you think the queen is alive or are they covering something up... totally serious, gullibility and lack of cynicism are major flaws in a lot of people