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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Thing is, you have to be committed to question that list. Google every one then weigh up whether you feel it's got the right level. That is a subjective thing. It seems to me that there are few people left who can be swayed now, which is why false news outrages one side and gives succour to the other.
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    The BBC have comprehensively responded to his list. I think there was one that they didn't report and that was just 'shots heard' - so possibly even a car back firing.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-de ... e-38893253

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... e-reported

    So, among them, there are false claims. But, what worries me most, is that a piece like the BBC or Guardian boils down to 'we covered it.'

    Well, yes, but that's not the point. He's claiming non coverage or not enough. It's impossible to say what amounts to enough . So they get away with it. No, this is a very very clever list indeed. Very clever
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Fenix wrote:
    The BBC have comprehensively responded to his list. I think there was one that they didn't report and that was just 'shots heard' - so possibly even a car back firing.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090

    I don't think they have. Not comprehensively. That's what Trump would say, coverage is not enough. There has to be more. It's impossible to debunk this list without doing one of the most comprehensive, and then subjective, investigations in history.
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    You can't win. You can't. You could slap the original reports in the faces of Trump supporters and they wouldn't give a flying f*ck. They have no interest in the truth, or he would never have been elected.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    I bet most Trump supporters can't read good anyway. Like their idol.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    bendertherobot wrote:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-38893253

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... e-reported

    So, among them, there are false claims. But, what worries me most, is that a piece like the BBC or Guardian boils down to 'we covered it.'

    Well, yes, but that's not the point. He's claiming non coverage or not enough. It's impossible to say what amounts to enough . So they get away with it. No, this is a very very clever list indeed. Very clever

    Trump claimed non coverage
    It’s gotten to a point where it’s not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it. They have their reasons, and you understand that.

    It's Spicer that has since changed it to not enough. Not that any of this matters.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    But, quite. Just as there was no massacre. The latest revision counts.

    I do think that he's incapable of rational thought and, as the video posted in the previous page claims, cannot read.

    Worrying times.
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Not that any of this is funny, but it would be utterly hilarious if he can't read. The most powerful nation in the word voting for someone who can't read. Hahaha.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Dinyull wrote:
    Not that any of this is funny, but it would be utterly hilarious if he can't read. The most powerful nation in the word voting for someone who can't read. Hahaha.

    Have you seen Samantha Bee's piece on that? Youtube search Trump Can't Read.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    I'm confused as to why the Republican senators seem so afraid to speak up against him. They have the power to release tax returns, block his candidate nominations etc yet most are behind him and unwilling to speak out re. his worrying views.

    Surely if the sh*t hits the fan, their careers will be all but over?

    I mean, take Pence (I know he's not a senator) - can he be taken seriously when defending Trump with views that directly contradict things Pence has said on record 12, 18, 24 months ago? Is he happy with his 5 mins in the sun and then retirement or does he want to be taken seriously as a politician when this is all over.

    Same with the General war heroes appointed like Mattis - is he going to let his name be muddied by being a Trump enabler?
  • mamba80
    mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    as i ve said, he is a lunatic and what on earth is May doing?

    Fair play to Bercow for having the courage of his convictions (or his wifes!) and saying Trump cant address Parliament.

    Cant read? sounds like genuine fake news!!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    mamba80 wrote:
    Cant read? sounds like genuine fake news!!
    I'm beginning to think this is both true, and significant. It starts to explain quite a few things, not least the control Bannon has over him, and the suggestion that he's not reading the Executive Orders he signs.

    "Trump said reading long documents is a waste of time because he absorbs the gist of an issue very quickly. “I’m a very efficient guy,” he said. “Now, I could also do it verbally, which is fine. I’d always rather have — I want it short. There’s no reason to do hundreds of pages because I know exactly what it is.”
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    mamba80 wrote:
    Cant read? sounds like genuine fake news!!

    Doubtless he can read, but at what level? Look at the link I posted on the previous page.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    briantrumpet wrote:
    mamba80 wrote:
    Cant read? sounds like genuine fake news!!
    I'm beginning to think this is both true, and significant. It starts to explain quite a few things, not least the control Bannon has over him, and the suggestion that he's not reading the Executive Orders he signs.

    "Trump said reading long documents is a waste of time because he absorbs the gist of an issue very quickly. “I’m a very efficient guy,” he said. “Now, I could also do it verbally, which is fine. I’d always rather have — I want it short. There’s no reason to do hundreds of pages because I know exactly what it is.”

    I suspect he is more likely to be something like dyslexic making reading a slow chore. The big worry is that he has failed to find a better solution than watching TV
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    The big worry is that he has failed to find a better solution than watching TV

    or listening to the advice of neo-fascists...
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Thing is, you have to be committed to question that list. Google every one then weigh up whether you feel it's got the right level. That is a subjective thing. It seems to me that there are few people left who can be swayed now, which is why false news outrages one side and gives succour to the other.
    If numbers talk this is better

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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Lets get back to what really matters. Bathrobegate. And to make you all feel warm and happy on a dull Wednesday morning, I give you.....
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Can't read......or spell so it seems.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/shoker-rediculous-chocker-trump-attaks-and-dishoners-english-with-ever-dummer-spellings/2017/02/07/9556faf4-ed58-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.f8ed1f54a17b
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Dinyull wrote:
    Can't read......or spell so it seems.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/shoker-rediculous-chocker-trump-attaks-and-dishoners-english-with-ever-dummer-spellings/2017/02/07/9556faf4-ed58-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.f8ed1f54a17b
    If Trump really is dyslexic, I'm inclined not to use the dyslexia for humour, whilst it's completely fair to ask if his inability to compensate for his 'learning difference' makes him incapable of doing the job he's supposed to be doing. If his dyslexia is giving Bannon the ability to get stuff signed that hasn't been checked over properly, then that's more than a little serious.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Would that be something that should be on a candidate's medical report?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Didn't Trump's doctor say he was the healthiest person in the world?
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    cooldad wrote:
    Didn't Trump's doctor say he was the healthiest person in the world?

    Yes, but the letter did start "To Whom My Concern:"
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    edited February 2017
    Did anyone watch that Lee Nelson thing on Channel 4 last night - Britain's Greatest Hoaxer?

    Camera's followed him around for a year pranking Simon Cowell, Phillip Green and culminating with him getting Trump.

    Was amazed at how well planned he was AND how easily it would have been to get a gun through.*

    Trump was opening a new golf course in Scotland. Nelson checked into a hotel room at the resort a day or so before the opening and left a bag with Swastika emblazoned golf balls in his room. He then left, stayed in a b+b round the corner, turned up on the day dressed as a member of staff with an identical empty bag to the one left in his room. He passed 3 or 4 security checks (security, local police and CIA) to get back into the resort, changed bags in his room and made his way to the golf tee where Trump was speaking.

    *As a disclaimer, I don't support this. Was just genuinely amazed that it was so open to it.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    edited February 2017
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    Can't read......or spell so it seems.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/shoker-rediculous-chocker-trump-attaks-and-dishoners-english-with-ever-dummer-spellings/2017/02/07/9556faf4-ed58-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.f8ed1f54a17b
    If Trump really is dyslexic, I'm inclined not to use the dyslexia for humour, whilst it's completely fair to ask if his inability to compensate for his 'learning difference' makes him incapable of doing the job he's supposed to be doing. If his dyslexia is giving Bannon the ability to get stuff signed that hasn't been checked over properly, then that's more than a little serious.

    I wasn't using for humour and I'd normally agree, but I think Trump is fair game. This is a man happy to use disabilities, sex, age, looks, colour, religion against almost anyone - nothing is off the table for this c$^t.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Dinyull wrote:
    nothing is off the table for this cretin.
    There you go insulting people with hypothyroidism...
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Learn something new everyday, cheers.
  • oblongomaculatus
    oblongomaculatus Posts: 616
    Ever since he was elected, I keep hearing the Monty Python Spam song in my head, with the word spam replaced by Trump… and now, so do you.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    oblongomaculatus wrote:
    Ever since he was elected, I keep hearing the Monty Python Spam song in my head, with the word spam replaced by Trump… and now, so do you.

    Lovely Trump, Wonderful Trump? I don't think it'll catch on.
  • oblongomaculatus
    oblongomaculatus Posts: 616
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    oblongomaculatus wrote:
    Ever since he was elected, I keep hearing the Monty Python Spam song in my head, with the word spam replaced by Trump… and now, so do you.

    Lovely Trump, Wonderful Trump? I don't think it'll catch on.

    You have to turn your irony level up to maximum; then it cheers you up.

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