Donald Trump

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  • America First

    Long past any attempt to hide who and what they are

    Isn’t he the racist bell end that was on Louis Theroux?
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,787

    America First

    Long past any attempt to hide who and what they are

    Isn’t he the racist bell end that was on Louis Theroux?
    That's him
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,395
    edited February 2022
    But don't they realise Putin is trying to de-Nazify the Ukraine?!
  • Are people still obsessing over the Lesser Orange Speckled Yellowbelly? It flew south ages ago.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,703

    Are people still obsessing over the Lesser Orange Speckled Yellowbelly? It flew south ages ago.

    It is migratory, so you can be sure it'll be back.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 19,542
    If you still aren't convinced that Maggie Haberman of the NYT is working for Trump (like her mother does, officially), this might convince you.

  • HilaryAmin
    HilaryAmin Posts: 160

    Yes this is why Europe needs to tool up as America are not reliable from election cycle to election cycle.


    Waiting to see what happens here:

    "Ultra Electronics underlined its status as a leading British defence group as it posted bumper figures.

    The company, whose controversial sale to US private equity awaits Government approval, said its order book was a record £1.3billion at the end of 2021."

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/ultra-electronics-orders-boom-as-us-private-equity-bidder-circles/ar-AAVqkNS

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Yes this is why Europe needs to tool up as America are not reliable from election cycle to election cycle.

    How do you mean "tool up" Rick?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,762
    Also...

    "Is that Robert Duvall?"
    "No, that's.... not Robert Duvall."
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 19,542
    Once we're past 2024, I might be able to laugh at stuff like this.

  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    Once we're past 2024, I might be able to laugh at stuff like this.

    Damn it. Is he back doing this rally thing again.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I don’t think he ever stopped.

    Just to be clear, there is a decent chance he can win an election after trying to stage a coup after his previous election loss.

    Fall of Rome stuff.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited May 2022
    I’m not the first person to make the connection but it does feel like we’re in our own “third century crisis”
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,976
    edited May 2022

    I’m not the first person to make the connection but it does feel like we’re in our own “third century crisis”

    I predicted a repeat of last century, if you remember. Pandemic-Boom-Crash-Rise of the right-War. We appear to have missed the boom part and are ahead of schedule.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    You do have to question the yanks if he makes it through to run for president again after last time. Unless you count chaos and dishonesty as what you are aiming for then what's the upside of trump 2.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Dictatorship, innit.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,703
    He's on their side. He's one of them you see, because when he was born he was only a millionaire.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    He's on their side. He's one of them you see, because when he was born he was only a millionaire.

    isn't he less than that now?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,703
    MattFalle said:

    He's on their side. He's one of them you see, because when he was born he was only a millionaire.

    isn't he less than that now?
    No he's one of those people that gets rich by losing money.
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,881
    Ignoring the minor issues like the attempted coup and being a complete loon, I don't understand why you would want a president going into a 4 year term who is already 78 years old.
    If Trump gets in next time the US will have had two in a row that old
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,703
    Please let Michelle run for president, please.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    monkimark said:

    Ignoring the minor issues like the attempted coup and being a complete loon, I don't understand why you would want a president going into a 4 year term who is already 78 years old.
    If Trump gets in next time the US will have had two in a row that old

    they don't care - he represents everything the lunatics are into - he could be 740 and they'll still vote for him.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,703
    Some of his base will, inexplicably, be women.

    And some of his base might be men who own one or more women. And some of those women might be pregnant and might want not to be (or at least their republican owners might not want that).

    Wonder how that's going to play out....
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,130
    john80 said:

    You do have to question the yanks if he makes it through to run for president again after last time. Unless you count chaos and dishonesty as what you are aiming for then what's the upside of trump 2.

    same script as other populists...

    - tell people they're being oppressed by 'elites' - even though you're one of the elite and corrupt as hell

    - immigrants, foreigners, liberals, lgbtq, wrong religion/colour/language, they're all trying to take your jobs/money/country, blame them too - they're already at a disadvantage, they can't fight back

    - make a lot of promises - you have no intention of keeping them, doesn't matter

    - claim the free press are liars biased against you, never admit your lies no matter what - you'll be cheered on by the biased media who profit from you

    - same for the independent judiciary, attack and subvert it - because you don't care about the rule of law

    - be as divisive as you can - polarisation plays into your hands, your threat is the centre, not the 'other side'

    - when you fail to do what you promised, lie and blame others more - use your failure to stoke more anger against 'them', it justifies an even more extreme position


    the ones who voted for him expecting mines to reopen, mass return of off-shored jobs and protectionism to keep out cheap/better foreign stuff, got little or nothing, but they'll vote for him again, after all, it wasn't his fault, and the false hope of his lies is better than accepting that they were conned

    the christian right who care only about subjugating others to their worldview are having a party, together with the gun nuts, qanon nuts, election result deniers, they'll all vote for him again

    hatred is a great motivator for getting out the vote, stoke it

    electoral systems that allow a minority of the popular vote to result in a victory are vulnerable to exploitation by populists, social media and sophisticated analytics have made it much easier, sadly both the usa and uk have such systems
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    sungod said:

    john80 said:

    You do have to question the yanks if he makes it through to run for president again after last time. Unless you count chaos and dishonesty as what you are aiming for then what's the upside of trump 2.

    same script as other populists...

    - tell people they're being oppressed by 'elites' - even though you're one of the elite and corrupt as hell

    - immigrants, foreigners, liberals, lgbtq, wrong religion/colour/language, they're all trying to take your jobs/money/country, blame them too - they're already at a disadvantage, they can't fight back

    - make a lot of promises - you have no intention of keeping them, doesn't matter

    - claim the free press are liars biased against you, never admit your lies no matter what - you'll be cheered on by the biased media who profit from you

    - same for the independent judiciary, attack and subvert it - because you don't care about the rule of law

    - be as divisive as you can - polarisation plays into your hands, your threat is the centre, not the 'other side'

    - when you fail to do what you promised, lie and blame others more - use your failure to stoke more anger against 'them', it justifies an even more extreme position


    the ones who voted for him expecting mines to reopen, mass return of off-shored jobs and protectionism to keep out cheap/better foreign stuff, got little or nothing, but they'll vote for him again, after all, it wasn't his fault, and the false hope of his lies is better than accepting that they were conned

    the christian right who care only about subjugating others to their worldview are having a party, together with the gun nuts, qanon nuts, election result deniers, they'll all vote for him again

    hatred is a great motivator for getting out the vote, stoke it

    electoral systems that allow a minority of the popular vote to result in a victory are vulnerable to exploitation by populists, social media and sophisticated analytics have made it much easier, sadly both the usa and uk have such systems
    all this that has been excellently written, are all valid points and is correct together with the fact that there's a lot of frikkin'idiots out there.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.