Donald Trump
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Military coup in Myanmar.
Fraudulent election cited by military.0 -
This is how far you dragged down the US Donald, beaten by Myanmar at coups.0
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I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
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If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.0 -
kingstongraham said:
If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.kingstongraham said:
If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.
I think the uk analogy would be the momentum nutjobs causing moderate labour deselection and an ultimate landslide victory for the center politics conservatives.kingstongraham said:
If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.0 -
kingstongraham said:
If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.
Just for a little while, I thought that 6 January might have been the inflexion point where the Machiavellian McConnell would take the opportunity to pull them back from the Trump wormhole, purely for pragmatic reasons, but that moment seems to have passed, and they are pursuing a Trump cult future, having given up working out how to put the fascistic genie back in the bottle.0 -
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I see your point - but that misses one important factor, which is them ever winning anything in the first place. Scrap it, it doesn't work as a parallel.david37 said:
I think the uk analogy would be the momentum nutjobs causing moderate labour deselection and an ultimate landslide victory for the center politics conservatives.kingstongraham said:
If the Conservative party in our very much less extreme version is anything to go by, along with Trump, some move away to another party, but a lot of them they justify it by convincing themselves that the Democrats are evil hardline socialists who want to destroy the fabric of life as they know it.briantrumpet said:
I don't know where the GOP go from here - as moderate Republicans trickle away from the party, Trump's base gets even more power, and the nutjobs such as Marjorie Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert become the new normal, while 'moderate Republicans' find themselves without a home, either by choice, or by being primaried by the nutjob faction.MattFalle said:and the fear of that is keeping them in line....
The important things to McConnell and that kind of Republicans are low taxes and right leaning judges. They can get those without a majority of the public supporting them, so they don't need to be hugely popular. This might push them over the tipping point, but not definitely.0 -
I would have thought the closest comparison would have been the Tories moving to the right due to the threat from UKIP. The Republicans could probably ban Trump from being a member and therefore standing as their candidate again if they wanted (citing his behaviour at this election, bringing the party into disrepute etc.) but would be worried that if him or one of his clan stood as an independent candidate they would take votes from the Republican candidate and hand victory to the Democrats which was much the issue the Tories were having with Farage and UKIP.0
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New legal team for Trump appointed. Is there no end to the people who are q’ing up to kiss his backside?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It’s bizarre that people still want to do it - having to - as you say, secure advance payment from an ex president and face the public backlash.
Everyone has a reason though..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Depends on whether you believe in justice - everyone has a right to a fair trial and that includes having representation/legal counsel.
You would hope that some may take the case on that principle rather than just for some money.
Sod it, if someone who was a respected human rights lawyer day took on the case pro-bono that would be something, wouldn't it? Hope the fecker still got convicted based on the evidence, but there needs to be due process.0 -
elbowloh said:
Depends on whether you believe in justice - everyone has a right to a fair trial and that includes having representation/legal counsel.
You would hope that some may take the case on that principle rather than just for some money.
Sod it, if someone who was a respected human rights lawyer day took on the case pro-bono that would be something, wouldn't it? Hope the fecker still got convicted based on the evidence, but there needs to be due process.
I think the difficulty in having a client who not only is likely to ignore advice, he quite probably wants to argue something which is demonstrably untrue. I'm sure there are plenty of lawyers who push the boundaries very creatively, but if they are being asked to argue something in bad faith, and also want some sort of career after Trump, then that might reduce the number of people willing to step up.0 -
This is the reality of being a lawyer in court. In the small claims court you can say whatever bat crazy madness you want as there is no perjury charge that can be levied and there are few lawyers as you can't get the costs back. Take that to the high court and things are different. In the US lawyers stating a deliberate false statement are likely to be put in front of the bar. In all cases thus far that were tested lawyers declined to provide evidence or admit there was widespread voter fraud if they did so the judge would look at their evidence and if it was deemed a deliberate false statement then they would be in trouble. There evidence was so weak they were generally unwilling to do this for fear or repercussion. If Trump wishes to continue to claim that there was widespread voter fraud then he either needs to provide credible evidence to his lawyer or his lawyer won't argue that point. He is so far away from the grey area it is telling and slightly amusing.0
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Rather like the stereotype that all Brexiters are poor northerners...0 -
Republicans v Gammons.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
If you want a laugh, watch the Newsmax presenter trying to stop the My Pillow loon making defamatory statements about Dominion voting machines...
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It's outrageous Newsmax cancelling the MyPillow guy like that.
My favourite bit is when the boy anchor has just had enough.0 -
This is also a good read of Trump crazy: https://www.axios.com/trump-oval-office-meeting-sidney-powell-a8e1e466-2e42-42d0-9cf1-26eb267f8723.html0
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I'm just reading that.
comedy gold although it does just sound like a standard meeting at my place of work tbh....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
I'm just reading that.
comedy gold although it does just sound like a standard meeting at my place of work tbh...
The film's going to be quite something when someone makes it.
Well, I suspect there will be several films, focusing on different parts of the Trumpsh!tshow, some of which won't be properly known about for some time.0 -
and i'll scweam and scweam and scweam and hold my breath until all the nasty people have gone away
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/feb/05/trump-actors-union-resigns-screen-actors-guild.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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If they managed to get three films out of The Hobbit then Trump must be worth at least ten.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:I'm just reading that.
comedy gold although it does just sound like a standard meeting at my place of work tbh...
The film's going to be quite something when someone makes it.
Well, I suspect there will be several films, focusing on different parts of the Trumpsh!tshow, some of which won't be properly known about for some time.0 -
So, whats gonna happen then?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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nothing.MattFalle said:So, whats gonna happen then?
Republicans will act like nothing that bad happened and Trump never did anything wrong.
There'll be no witnesses, so no new information about what Trump did while they were in the Capitol.
52 votes to convict, 48 against.0 -
And re Mar A Lago?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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At Mar a Lago you're not allowed to stay for more than 3 weeks a year under the planning restrictions on the place, so hopefully they'll evict him and bill him also for the security improvements the people paid for.0
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problem is, they have nothing in writing but it would be brilliant if they managed it.....
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It will be ruled constituional to have the trial. They will then have the trial and all of the Republicans will vote to acquit because they don't think the trial was constitutional.MattFalle said:So, whats gonna happen then?
While it is going on 20000 people will suffocate slowly to death.
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