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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,329
    But then you just have to look "below the line" on almost any article on the web these days, and you realise what a beacon of sanity this place is.
    Very true.
    Linking this back to Donald Trump, a friend that is on this forum occasionally compared Donald Trump to a Daily Mail comments section that had somehow achieved a form of sentience.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,803
    I'm a beacon of sanity. :D
    Did someone cross the streams?
    Even me? :shock:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,803

    The average Brit does not have a clue about anything outside of their home town, let alone their borders. This is due to pig ignorance and ignoring the educational media whilst sticking with X Factor, The Voice, I'm a Celebrity and the TOWIE variants while aspiring to be famous.

    I spent a year at university over there and have worked really closely with the U.S. inbetween travelling there quite a bit over the past few years. Quite an eye opener when comparing to the average British town/person.

    I've also spent sometime doing careers talks at British Secondary schools - some pupils are excellent, but the majority? God/Allah/Jahweh, help us.
    Different experiences lead to different conclusions. I am happy with that.
    An old one just for giggles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TK_vk-XDM
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,364
    The Aussies do have a sense of humour:

    After every flight, Qantas Airlines pilots fill out a form called a gripe sheet, which conveys to the mechanics problems encountered with the aircraft during the flight that need repair or correction. The mechanics read and correct the problem, and then respond in writing on the lower half of the form what remedial action was taken, and the pilot reviews the gripe sheets before the next flight. Never let it be said that ground crews and engineers lack a sense of humor.
    Here are some supposedly actual logged maintenance complaints and problems as submitted by Qantas pilots and the solution as recorded by Qantas maintenance engineers.

    By the way, Qantas is the only major airline that has never had an accident.

    (P = The problem logged by the pilot.)
    (S = The solution and action taken by the engineers.)

    P: Left inside main tyre almost needs replacement.
    S: Almost replaced left inside main tyre.

    P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
    S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

    P: Something loose in cockpit.
    S: Something tightened in cockpit.

    P: Dead bugs on windshield.
    S: Live bugs on backorder.

    P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
    S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.

    P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
    S: Evidence removed.

    P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
    S: DME volume set to more believable level.

    P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
    S: That's what they're there for.

    P: IFF inoperative.
    S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

    P: Suspected crack in windshield.
    S: Suspect you're right.

    P: Number 3 engine missing.
    S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

    P: Aircraft handles funny.
    S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

    P: Target radar hums.
    S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.

    P: Mouse in cockpit.
    S: Cat installed.

    P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.
    S: Took hammer away from midget.
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,364

    Both of me!? I haven't had a day as good as this in years.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    Please sign and share on all social media if you don't want Trump allowed into the UK.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003

    Surprised that hasn't imploded under the weight of its own irony.

    Ban someone from entering a country because he wants to ban people from entering a country.

    :roll:

    I agree with Rick, and I haven't typed that very often. :lol:
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,364
    I see the irony but it would however have the effect of dissuading his backers in the event that he became president. Imagine that? A US president who was banned from entering the UK!
    It would be a dilemma for DC if he was forced to consider such a ban.
    Yes, ban him. Then we can get down to analysing exactly what this so called 'special relationship' is all about. If the UK government became distanced with the US president (more than with Obama), then the potential Brexit has even bigger implications.
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Well, as of this evening as reported in The Telegraph, 69% of UKIP voters agree with Crazy Donald's proposal of banning Muslims entering the U.S.

    I presume that this figure would transfer across if they were asked if they would want Muslims banned from entering Britain.

    What that says about UKIP I will let you make up your minds, but to me it says that they are a bunch of racist evil fascist f'tards......
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    I see the irony but it would however have the effect of dissuading his backers in the event that he became president. Imagine that? A US president who was banned from entering the UK!
    It would be a dilemma for DC if he was forced to consider such a ban.
    Yes, ban him. Then we can get down to analysing exactly what this so called 'special relationship' is all about. If the UK government became distanced with the US president (more than with Obama), then the potential Brexit has even bigger implications.

    Do you honestly think he would give a flying f*ck?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,364
    I see the irony but it would however have the effect of dissuading his backers in the event that he became president. Imagine that? A US president who was banned from entering the UK!
    It would be a dilemma for DC if he was forced to consider such a ban.
    Yes, ban him. Then we can get down to analysing exactly what this so called 'special relationship' is all about. If the UK government became distanced with the US president (more than with Obama), then the potential Brexit has even bigger implications.

    Do you honestly think he would give a flying f*ck?

    He does own 2 golf courses in the UK an he isn't acting out this charade on his own so there must be advisor's behind him saying "Now wait a minute Don, old boy..."
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  • debeli
    debeli Posts: 583
    In the unlikely event (0 % probability) of his becoming POTUS, and the equally unlikely event of anyone serious taking an online 'barring' petition seriously, President Trump would not be the first head of state of a developed country denied access to another.

    I recall the former President of Austria, a Herr Waldheim, being banned from the US during his time in office.

    He had displayed a similarly intolerant attitude to religious difference in his younger days, although I am told that his main beef was with another faith, not Islam.
  • letap73
    letap73 Posts: 1,608
    How would you go about stopping the entry of Muslims into the USA?
    My passport does not have my religious status in it.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,694
    How would you go about stopping the entry of Muslims into the USA?
    My passport does not have my religious status in it.
    You got a beard and a tan?
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    How would you go about stopping the entry of Muslims into the USA?
    My passport does not have my religious status in it.
    It'll be easy to spot them, just look for the AK and the funny-looking jacket.

    But seriously, not even the most swivel-eyed Trumpistas can think this is actually a real policy proposal - it's more a kind of mirror image of liberal virtue-signalling: it's to show what kind of a guy he is to the American conservative audience. And that includes being seen to infuriate all the PC people: so overall, clearly a successful strategy, and maybe not quite as stupid as you might think.
  • Trump's game plan is this:

    1: say something that draws all media attention his way, denying his rivals oxygen. Instead, rivals have to respond as if he is already the only one who matters

    2: force the public to focus on issues where trump polls well

    3: ask for far more than you expect to get (negotiate from the stsrt)

    4: force people to see the world in strengths and weaknesses because people are drawn to strength when uncertain about the world

    He's gambling that the world will only hear one binary option: do something (Trump's banning of all Muslims) or do nothing.

    People always want something done over nothing.

    Hey, you got that from the front dust jacket of "The Art of the Deal"! :lol:
    Infinite diversity, infinte variations
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    edited December 2015
    Well, as of this evening as reported in The Telegraph, 69% of UKIP voters agree with Crazy Donald's proposal of banning Muslims entering the U.S.

    I presume that this figure would transfer across if they were asked if they would want Muslims banned from entering Britain.

    What that says about UKIP I will let you make up your minds, but to me it says that they are a bunch of racist evil fascist f'tards......

    Islam or being a Muslim is not a race. I do not think one can even use the term Islamaphobic/Islamaphobia, as that would tend to indicate one is frightened of a person or persons who practice the religion of Islam.

    I think you should read up on your history and learn about the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar and the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg. Both were obviously divisions of the infamous SS and both manned by Muslims for the rounding up and execution of Jews in the Balkan region. Therefore my view on labelling someone Fascist who has Atheistic views on the religion of Islam is somewhat conflicted.

    A bastard is someone born of parents not married to each other and is not appropriate to use as a label for someone who you may consider ill educated, ill informed or ignorant.

    Ergo perhaps you should think more carefully about your wording before making statements.


    I just love the English language and History.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Please sign and share on all social media if you don't want Trump allowed into the UK.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003

    Surprised that hasn't imploded under the weight of its own irony.

    Ban someone from entering a country because he wants to ban people from entering a country.

    :roll:

    I agree with Rick, and I haven't typed that very often. :lol:

    There's surely nothing ironic about wanting to ban an individual from entering a country because of his wish to ban an entire religion from entering a country. Unless you think that, for example, not being racist means that you think that everybody not of your race is a really nice person. That's really the whole point of why racism is nasty.
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  • Why can't you have a phobia of the followers of Islam? You can have a fear of anything from clowns to spiders to those you believe are Muslims. No link between those random phobias meant.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Why can't you have a phobia of the followers of Islam? You can have a fear of anything from clowns to spiders to those you believe are Muslims. No link between those random phobias meant.

    Of course you can:- Islamaphobia. A phobia is a fear.
    But you cannot use 'phobia' in the context of an organisation like the Front Nationale (that's in France) or Donald Trump wanting to remove Muslims from their respective countries.
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Why can't you have a phobia of the followers of Islam? You can have a fear of anything from clowns to spiders to those you believe are Muslims. No link between those random phobias meant.

    Of course you can:- Islamaphobia. A phobia is a fear.
    But you cannot use 'phobia' in the context of an organisation like the Front Nationale (that's in France) or Donald Trump wanting to remove Muslims from their respective countries.
    ... and gay means bright and happy.
    I completely agree with you that Islamophobia is an over- and mis-used term that should not be used simply because someone has a negative view of or is opposed to Islam. But it is a fact that the suffix phobia is used nowadays mainly to refer to an irrational hatred: this might annoy you, but usage is grammar
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,744
    Yes phobia has become used in a way beyond the original "fear" but it still seems to carry an element of irrationality with it. To be Islamophobic is to have an irrational dislike of Islam - my objection to the word is it's quite possible to dislike Islam for quite rational reasons yet anyone who criticises any aspect of Islam is branded Islamophobic.

    I would guess if you asked people in the UK or US if they would want their country to be majority muslim most would say no - if so are most people Islamophobic ?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Why can't you have a phobia of the followers of Islam? You can have a fear of anything from clowns to spiders to those you believe are Muslims. No link between those random phobias meant.

    Of course you can:- Islamaphobia. A phobia is a fear.
    But you cannot use 'phobia' in the context of an organisation like the Front Nationale (that's in France) or Donald Trump wanting to remove Muslims from their respective countries.
    ... and gay means bright and happy.
    I completely agree with you that Islamophobia is an over- and mis-used term that should not be used simply because someone has a negative view of or is opposed to Islam. But it is a fact that the suffix phobia is used nowadays mainly to refer to an irrational hatred: this might annoy you, but usage is grammar

    Islamophobia is defined as: dislike or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

    Remember the dictionary reflects common usage, not the other way around.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Islamophobia is defined as: dislike or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

    Remember the dictionary reflects common usage, not the other way around.
    If "phobia" is now taken to mean "dislike", that seems a step too far to me. But sure enough, that's what the OED says! I would suggest that if the meaning really is changing that much, it's because of the hyperbolic use of words like "islamophobic" as a line of political or cultural attack. I guess it's a bit similar to the way that saying someone is wrong can now be taken to be a hate crime.

    Maybe it's one of those irregular verbs:
    I have principles
    You are opinionated
    He has a phobia
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,744
    I think the OED has it wrong, phobic is not used simply to mean dislike, It's as you say people conflate holding critical views with phobia purely to discredit those who hold a counter opinion.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Homophobia is used in the same way and has been since I was at primary school. No different.

    Ultimately your use of language was wrong. Stop trying to cover your mistake by bemoaning the cultural baggage attached to the word.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,744
    What an odd response ! How was homophobia used before you were at primary school?

    I can't think what a rational objection to someone being gay might be so by definition that would be an irrational dislike - the same isn't true when we discuss ideology - it's quite possible to dislike communism, national socialism, Islam, Christianity or one nation Toryism without having a phobia.
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  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    What an odd response ! How was homophobia used before you were at primary school?

    I can't think what a rational objection to someone being gay might be so by definition that would be an irrational dislike - the same isn't true when we discuss ideology - it's quite possible to dislike communism, national socialism, Islam, Christianity or one nation Toryism without having a phobia.

    Homophobia and Religion. A marriage made in Heaven.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,803
    Latest one is that he wants to shut down the internet.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2389914/donald-trump-thinks-he-can-call-bill-gates-and-have-him-close-the-internet/

    Presumably it would help him if we didn't share proof of him being an idiot.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,364
    In the US, they are killing each other with guns at a rate of roughly 8500 per annum and they're paranoid about terrorism... Hmm.
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