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It's hard to resist sometimes.Ben6899 said:The only thing I am guilty of here is baiting him.
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his reasoning being that "because someone has to do something about Antifa and the left".kingstongraham said:Did this argument start from Trump saying he wanted a far right, violent white supremacist group to "stand by"?
That seems significantly and worryingly more racist than the structural issues we have in the UK.
Which implies he thinks that:
a) fascism is not something that should be fought against
b) law and order is the job of armed militia and not the police
c) "the left" is extremism?0 -
I forgot about this, meant to comment earlier. So you can't think of one, and you can't think of one. You're rambling as much as the dotard.coopster_the_1st said:
For the usual wokeys that are calling this out and sort of implying its because the UK is racist, can you name a black female public figure in the UK who you can see being qualified to lead the country?rick_chasey said:
Anywhere in EuropeBen6899 said:You wouldn't get majority vote for a black woman, in here, never mind in the US elections.
I can't think of one and I can't think of any black female in the UK who I can see right now as being qualified enough to lead the country0 -
Not me. I just think it is possible the UK will elect a PM from an ethnic minority background because there is reasonable evidence to support this.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
That shouldn't be confused with wider issues in society.
I have already made the point that Pakistan elected a woman despite women largely being unseen in society.
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Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?
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Gina Millercoopster_the_1st said:Three replies from the usual wokeys trying to imply it is something else and not one name of a black female who is qualified or competent enough to run the country.
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Well BLM are doing their best to recreate impediments by undoing lots of good work over the last couple of decades.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I don't believe the social mobility problems are there that were present a couple of decades ago. I am arguing that time is needed for the cream to rise to the top and that time period is longer than a couple of decades.0 -
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20691062/#Comment_20691062elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
Yeah, all those images of footballers all taking a knee in solidarity before every game are extremely damaging.coopster_the_1st said:
Well BLM are doing their best to recreate impediments by undoing lots of good work over the last couple of decades.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I don't believe the social mobility problems are there that were present a couple of decades ago. I am arguing that time is needed for the cream to rise to the top and that time period is longer than a couple of decades.
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She was good at coalescing the gullible into believing in herdarkhairedlord said:
Gina Millercoopster_the_1st said:Three replies from the usual wokeys trying to imply it is something else and not one name of a black female who is qualified or competent enough to run the country.
Thanks for proving my point
so she could be leader material.
I doubt she ticks the competent box, but that is because of her politics and refusal to respect democracy.0 -
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Didn't the footballers really find out what people really felt about them supporting that political movement once fans were allowed in grounds again?elbowloh said:
Yeah, all those images of footballers all taking a knee in solidarity before every game are extremely damaging.coopster_the_1st said:
Well BLM are doing their best to recreate impediments by undoing lots of good work over the last couple of decades.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I don't believe the social mobility problems are there that were present a couple of decades ago. I am arguing that time is needed for the cream to rise to the top and that time period is longer than a couple of decades.0 -
I don't think Cake Stop is racist, I just think that unfortunately society (and BikeRadar as a microcosm of it) isn't ready to vote a black woman to power. I used the "in here" reference as "despite how divese we are because only cycling has brought us together", but I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.coopster_the_1st said:
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20691062/#Comment_20691062elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?Ben
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You are going to have to talk me through this in simple easy to understand steps.coopster_the_1st said:
Well BLM are doing their best to recreate impediments by undoing lots of good work over the last couple of decades.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I don't believe the social mobility problems are there that were present a couple of decades ago. I am arguing that time is needed for the cream to rise to the top and that time period is longer than a couple of decades.
BLM has set back its own cause how, exactly?0 -
She'd have more chance if she was an MP[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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I think it's the guilt complex he's pretending others have.elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?- Genesis Croix de Fer
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They're still not back in grounds, so no.coopster_the_1st said:
Didn't the footballers really find out what people really felt about them supporting that political movement once fans were allowed in grounds again?elbowloh said:
Yeah, all those images of footballers all taking a knee in solidarity before every game are extremely damaging.coopster_the_1st said:
Well BLM are doing their best to recreate impediments by undoing lots of good work over the last couple of decades.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I don't believe the social mobility problems are there that were present a couple of decades ago. I am arguing that time is needed for the cream to rise to the top and that time period is longer than a couple of decades.
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Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Yes, it would be better if you did not bother us with your drivel because you trying to project your internal guilt complex onto others.Ben6899 said:
I don't think Cake Stop is racist, I just think that unfortunately society (and BikeRadar as a microcosm of it) isn't ready to vote a black woman to power. I used the "in here" reference as "despite how divese we are because only cycling has brought us together", but I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain.coopster_the_1st said:
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20691062/#Comment_20691062elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?
I think we would vote a black woman into power. The problem is there is no-one of competence to test this out. However said women would have to have nothing to with BLM as they are seen rightly as toxic to the majority of the population because of the stupid views they hold.0 -
More I think about it the more it the more I think it won't change much but if it benefits anyone it benefits trump as the entire point of him is to undermine the process - either to reduce turnout or reduce credibility in event of loss.pinno said:Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.0 -
A friend said to me that Biden has Corbyn elements to him and he is so right with this comment.pinno said:Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.
How he was the best candidate the Democrats could find is beyond me, but they did the same when they put Clinton up in 2016.0 -
In what way? He's a man? Has grey hair? This doesn't really convey much insight.coopster_the_1st said:
A friend said to me that Biden has Corbyn elements to him and he is so right with this comment.pinno said:Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.
How he was the best candidate the Democrats could find is beyond me, but they did the same when they put Clinton up in 2016.
Trump has elements of the Honeymonster in appearance.0 -
What are his Corbyn like qualities in your opinion? Not supporting the extreme right would be one I suppose, most would consider that a good thing though.coopster_the_1st said:
A friend said to me that Biden has Corbyn elements to him and he is so right with this comment.pinno said:Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.
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Hard to know as it is exclusively populated by white men.Ben6899 said:
I don't think Cake Stop is racist,coopster_the_1st said:
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20691062/#Comment_20691062elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
I'm mixed race, but I am a man.rick_chasey said:
Hard to know as it is exclusively populated by white men.Ben6899 said:
I don't think Cake Stop is racist,coopster_the_1st said:
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20691062/#Comment_20691062elbowloh said:
Not sure where you are getting that from?coopster_the_1st said:
I'm calling you out on implying the Cakestop is racist. That is your guilt trip, not mine and you look silly for implying so!Ben6899 said:
No guilt here, pal. Not about this anyway.coopster_the_1st said:
The bad look is projecting your own misplaced guilt onto Cakestop and the UK as a whole. That makes you the one who looks silly.Ben6899 said:I wasn't the one who said there were no black (or other minorities) "on the horizon".
Denying there's a systemic problem in most of the world isn't a very good look. In my opinion.
You are the one with the inbuilt problem. We will only move forward when the likes of you lose this misplaced guilt complex.
It's bad enough the likes of you does not respect democracy, let alone trying to guilt trip the UK to make yourself feel better.
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
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Hahahahaha.coopster_the_1st said:
A friend said to me that Biden has Corbyn elements to him and he is so right with this comment.pinno said:Erm, what about Trump and the presidential debate?
Off topic again.
How he was the best candidate the Democrats could find is beyond me, but they did the same when they put Clinton up in 2016.
You see Biden as a radical left winger? That says a lot about your position.
Unless you just meant old, in which case, his experience and the voters familiarity with his competence in government and his life story is what means he's a decent candidate. Not the same with Corbyn, really.0 -
veronese68 said:
Whilst calling others stupid, yet being either incapable of reading what's been written or ignoring it because it destroys his argument.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I've just got no idea why seemingly intelligent people rise to the bait.0 -
Surely Dianne Abbott can lead us out of this mess with her silky skills as a politician.coopster_the_1st said:
For the usual wokeys that are calling this out and sort of implying its because the UK is racist, can you name a black female public figure in the UK who you can see being qualified to lead the country?rick_chasey said:
Anywhere in EuropeBen6899 said:You wouldn't get majority vote for a black woman, in here, never mind in the US elections.
I can't think of one and I can't think of any black female in the UK who I can see right now as being qualified enough to lead the country
I'm sure there are some highly talented black females currently working their way up the system but as yet, none I know of.
This is just where we are in the UK, not because we are racist, but black women are a relatively small group in the overall talent pool and only in the last couple of decades has this group started to enter the race to climb the greasy pole.
I'm sure this will change when a competent black female comes along but I don't see one on the horizon.0 -
Low level entertainment, like going to a freak show in Victorian times.briantrumpet said:veronese68 said:
Whilst calling others stupid, yet being either incapable of reading what's been written or ignoring it because it destroys his argument.First.Aspect said:Have I really just read a page of someone arguing that there are no impediments to social mobility in the UK, let alone for minorities. Any that any cream would have risen to the top?
I've just got no idea why seemingly intelligent people rise to the bait.0
