Donald Trump
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Otoh, the individual states are shielded from his stupidity in a way that the English are not shielded from BoJos buffoonery.rick_chasey said:
He was always fascist as a president. I've been saying this for four years.pblakeney said:
Makes sense since the US now has a dicktator.rick_chasey said:
We should all stop holding the US to high standards. Treat em like you would China.kingstongraham said:
"Is that your bible?"
"It's A bible."
He's just a sick joke.
I know we all hold US to a higher standard, but I do struggle to be shocked by what I'm seeing. What were people expecting?
We all know large swathes of America has been like this for a long time.
The challenge is that this works for him, electorally.
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He's consistent - this is him 30 years ago:
"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."0 -
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Yeah, I get that but he is not even pretending to hide it any more. I wonder if he is going too far with martial law and enough will be enough.rick_chasey said:
He was always fascist as a president. I've been saying this for four years.pblakeney said:
Makes sense since the US now has a dicktator.rick_chasey said:
We should all stop holding the US to high standards. Treat em like you would China.kingstongraham said:
"Is that your bible?"
"It's A bible."
He's just a sick joke.
I know we all hold US to a higher standard, but I do struggle to be shocked by what I'm seeing. What were people expecting?
We all know large swathes of America has been like this for a long time.
The challenge is that this works for him, electorally.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Meh. Yanks love men with guns. Unless they're black. It's still early days but it doesn't look like to have budged his ratings all that much.pblakeney said:
Yeah, I get that but he is not even pretending to hide it any more. I wonder if he is going too far with martial law and enough will be enough.rick_chasey said:
He was always fascist as a president. I've been saying this for four years.pblakeney said:
Makes sense since the US now has a dicktator.rick_chasey said:
We should all stop holding the US to high standards. Treat em like you would China.kingstongraham said:
"Is that your bible?"
"It's A bible."
He's just a sick joke.
I know we all hold US to a higher standard, but I do struggle to be shocked by what I'm seeing. What were people expecting?
We all know large swathes of America has been like this for a long time.
The challenge is that this works for him, electorally.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
They're amazingly consistent.0 -
Likely have a tantrum and refuse to leave claiming its a witch huntrick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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rick_chasey said:
Meh. Yanks love men with guns. Unless they're black. It's still early days but it doesn't look like to have budged his ratings all that much.pblakeney said:
Yeah, I get that but he is not even pretending to hide it any more. I wonder if he is going too far with martial law and enough will be enough.rick_chasey said:
He was always fascist as a president. I've been saying this for four years.pblakeney said:
Makes sense since the US now has a dicktator.rick_chasey said:
We should all stop holding the US to high standards. Treat em like you would China.kingstongraham said:
"Is that your bible?"
"It's A bible."
He's just a sick joke.
I know we all hold US to a higher standard, but I do struggle to be shocked by what I'm seeing. What were people expecting?
We all know large swathes of America has been like this for a long time.
The challenge is that this works for him, electorally.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
They're amazingly consistent.
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I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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Been watching and reading what Biden has been doing, he is quietly going round open meetings etc being the opposite of Trump.
Annoyingly the photo op was clearly a move to panda to his main support base of evangelical supporters where he still holds great sway. He did this before pushing for churches to open.
Just need to wait for round two of Covid to his in the US see how he spins it, likely blaming Mexicans and far right extremists again playing to his fans.
Also the bible photo op, one its in front of a boarded up church (nice). But is that bible either back to front or upside down?
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I'm surprised it didn't burst into flames when he touched itstep83 said:Been watching and reading what Biden has been doing, he is quietly going round open meetings etc being the opposite of Trump.
Annoyingly the photo op was clearly a move to panda to his main support base of evangelical supporters where he still holds great sway. He did this before pushing for churches to open.
Just need to wait for round two of Covid to his in the US see how he spins it, likely blaming Mexicans and far right extremists again playing to his fans.
Also the bible photo op, one its in front of a boarded up church (nice). But is that bible either back to front or upside down?Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
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The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also Trump can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House. He can postpone the election for various reasons but would eventually run in the 20th January problem.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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That's now.rick_chasey said:I guess the bigger worry is that after this he wins...
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I think that's called a coupkingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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Best get the independent justice department and the US Attorney General onto it. Oops.schlepcycling said:
I think that's called a coupkingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It would be somewhat less bad after a couple of years. The Republican cost/benefit analysis of circling that wagons then shift to the next electoral cycle. He'll be more and more of a lame duck signing executive orders to ban jeans and things like that.kingstongraham said:
That's now.rick_chasey said:I guess the bigger worry is that after this he wins...
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nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.0 -
Judges have been appointed as and when vacancies come up really (though there were some political games during the Obama administration). There are only two Trump appointees on the SC and neither of them would ever support what would amount to a coup. Even if they did, there would be no law to base it on.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.
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That's a joke, right?nickice said:
Judges have been appointed as and when vacancies come up really (though there were some political games during the Obama administration). There are only two Trump appointees on the SC and neither of them would ever support what would amount to a coup. Even if they did, there would be no law to base it on.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.0 -
the right to bear arms?step83 said:
the photo op was clearly a move to panda to his main support base...0 -
No.kingstongraham said:
That's a joke, right?nickice said:
Judges have been appointed as and when vacancies come up really (though there were some political games during the Obama administration). There are only two Trump appointees on the SC and neither of them would ever support what would amount to a coup. Even if they did, there would be no law to base it on.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.0 -
Can anyone imagine the Trumpster responding like Trudeau?
Not just the pause to consider the response, but the honesty.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-52900486/george-floyd-protests-trudeau-s-epic-pause-when-asked-about-trump-s-response
BJ too, come to that.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It might only be 2 but that is 2 out of only 9. And counting...nickice said:
Judges have been appointed as and when vacancies come up really (though there were some political games during the Obama administration). There are only two Trump appointees on the SC and neither of them would ever support what would amount to a coup. Even if they did, there would be no law to base it on.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.
Not bad going when one was appointed by G.Bush senior.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It depends if another judge retires or dies. There is no great conspiracy here. Presidents have to right to nominate federal judges. The American system is actually pretty well set up with checks and balances to prevent it turning into a dictatorship. For example, term limits.pblakeney said:
It might only be 2 but that is 2 out of only 9. And counting...nickice said:
Judges have been appointed as and when vacancies come up really (though there were some political games during the Obama administration). There are only two Trump appointees on the SC and neither of them would ever support what would amount to a coup. Even if they did, there would be no law to base it on.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
Courts are there to enforce the law so there is no interest (legal or otherwise) in allowing him to stay on. There is a very good reason for judicial tenure.kingstongraham said:
That's all very well, but this president has done a lot of things he isn't allowed to. If the senate, the courts, the military, and law enforcement decide that they're on his side when he declares an emergency and stays there, what happens then?schlepcycling said:
The great thing about the US Constitution is that the 20th Amendment states that the President and Vice President's terms both expire ends at noon on 20th January. Also he can't cancel the election without an act of Congress as a trio of Federal election laws set Election Day for presidential electors, senators, and US representatives as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.” If Republicans want to change this law, they will need to go through the Democratic House.Pross said:
I can see him challenging the validity of the election, refusing to leave office until it's been reviewed and stirring up the lunatics who support him as he'll claim he's being punished for fighting for their rights.rick_chasey said:You do wonder what will happen in the event he loses an election.
It might turn out to be a weakness of the US Constitution that judges are political appointees. Trump & McConnell have been packing them in as quickly as they can. There's a lot to be said for an awkward, independent judiciary.
Not bad going when one was appointed by G.Bush senior.0
