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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    briantrumpet wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Amazon/netflix shares down 11% since the fake president started attacking Amazon, seems an easy way Trumps cronies can make money buying/selling shares based on what he's going to say next!
    ...the suggestion being that he's using his position to personally attack Amazon. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04 ... s-personal

    He's also carrying on his Twitter tirades this morning against all media other than Fox and Sinclair.
    definitely personal, as Bezos owns the WoPo, like Huckerbee sanders said "if you're nice to the president he'll be nice to you"
    "Now, I'd hate it if anything terrible happened to your business. I can make sure that nothing terrible happens to your business. Think of it like insurance..."

    Now we know what it looks like when a mafia don becomes president. The difference is that Trump uses Twitter to enforce 'payment' of the premium, or to try to take out the competition. The 'competition' includes truth, decency, democracy, and the rule of law.
    It is unbelievable what the republican party has become, you wonder what the long term effect it will have on their party, i know they've had some dodgy presidents in Nixon and Reagon, but this is a new level. Be interesting to see what happens in the next few days re the Putin visit, Russia seem to be in charge of the arrangements, so you have the potential of a Putin/ Trump meeting while Europe advocate for more sanctions. What next Russia and the US work together to break up Europe?
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Just watched Trump talking to the Baltic leaders and he said in effect hey Baltic leaders, tell world how great Trump has been for NATO, how bad Germany are and how I hope we can get along with Russia. No mention of Ukraine, Crimea, Nerve agents just wouldn't it be great to get along with Russia. Don't get me wrong I'm all for states getting along, but this is weird and getting weirder, the President of Lithuania wouldn't give him the praise he wanted, so he gave the praise to himself :lol:
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    It seems we (the UK) cannot prove the Russians (The Kremlin) poisoned the Skripals. Yet we have invoked global support against Russia thanks to the f**king idiot May appointed Foreign Secretary.

    https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/981209292463362048

    Russia says we did the poisoning to divert attention from Brexit.

    Trump isn't going to stick his neck out for us on this one. Quite the opposite - we are leaving ourselves open to being stitched up.
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    60 Russian spies sent home from America. No they're not giving us support. Mind you that's probably the state department's action not Trump's.

    Porton Down only determined it was a military grade, Russian developed nerve agent that was made by a state actor (a country not criminals). They did not confirm it was of Russian origins. Apparently that aspect came from other sources of evidence which I doubt will come out until 30 or more years have passed as per secrecy classifications dictate. If this evidence does prove Russia was involved then Russia will be very confident UK won't make it public because that will expose intelligence sources.

    If you took the word of UK government as proven behind the scenes, then there would never be any possibility of full public disclosure of the evidence. Russia were always on a winner with this assassination attempt.

    What I find amazing is how many states back the UK interpretation and have expelled Russian diplomats / spies. That isn't down to UK influence I reckon, we just don't have that much international clout. Why did they expel Russians? Could there be sharing if intelligence that convinced them the Russians did it. Or are they just so happy to have an excuse to hit out at Russia?

    BTW I don't think we've had too many blatantly pro-Russian posters on here. Why?
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Agree TM, Russians are playing a game, asking questions they know that the U.K. can’t or won’t give for fear of comprising intelligence. Trump is in hock to the Russians more than likely through money laundering and or blackmail tapes. They behaved exactly the same way with litvenyenko and even made the alleged murderer a member of the Russian parliament. Beyond me how robert88 takes putins twisted words at face value. A very naive post, I’m no fan of Teressa may or boris Johnson, but they seem to have played this by the book.
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Boris hasn't. He's said some stupid things about it. Too definite in his replies. You don't say 101% if you're not going to release the evidence because it'll compromise intelligence sources. Stupid mop head!

    The US response was state department led apparently and Trump stood back on that one. The invite to Putin is where his loyalties lie. I'm actually amazed the state department got the Russian expulsions through Trump's insane filter.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    The US response was state department led apparently and Trump stood back on that one. The invite to Putin is where his loyalties lie. I'm actually amazed the state department got the Russian expulsions through Trump's insane filter.

    I expect a lot gets done when Trump is on the golf course.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    It needs to, or nothing would ever happen!
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,329
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    The invite to Putin is where his loyalties lie. I'm actually amazed the state department got the Russian expulsions through Trump's insane filter.
    The 60 'diplomats' sent back to Russia are actually just being replaced by 60 others, I gather, so Trump knows that it won't upset the relationship with his Russian sponsors.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Boris hasn't. He's said some stupid things about it. Too definite in his replies. You don't say 101% if you're not going to release the evidence because it'll compromise intelligence sources. Stupid mop head!

    The US response was state department led apparently and Trump stood back on that one. The invite to Putin is where his loyalties lie. I'm actually amazed the state department got the Russian expulsions through Trump's insane filter.
    OK I admit I was a bit rash with the Boris statement, I fear I'm getting drawn into that world where insanity, lying and stupidity are blurred with reality :D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Boris hasn't. He's said some stupid things about it. Too definite in his replies. You don't say 101% if you're not going to release the evidence because it'll compromise intelligence sources. Stupid mop head!

    The US response was state department led apparently and Trump stood back on that one. The invite to Putin is where his loyalties lie. I'm actually amazed the state department got the Russian expulsions through Trump's insane filter.
    OK I admit I was a bit rash with the Boris statement, I fear I'm getting drawn into that world where insanity, lying and stupidity are blurred with reality :D

    A world where the what is said and done in the real world is more bizarre than anything that gets said on a forum. Who'd have thought it.
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  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    On Boris Johnson, he's got form on opening his big fat blubbery mouth and saying the wrong thing. For such a supposedly intelligent bloke, he really is very, very stupid - he's a liability who wouldn't have got the job under any other PM.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,139
    ayjaycee wrote:
    On Boris Johnson, he's got form on opening his big fat blubbery mouth and saying the wrong thing. For such a supposedly intelligent bloke, he really is very, very stupid - he's a liability who wouldn't have got the job under any other PM.

    Remember that the possible alternatives as PM were Andrea Leadsom or Michael Gove. He would have had a high profile job under either of them. (Or in another possible universe, Boris Johnson would have stayed in the race to be PM.)
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,139
    Anyway, like I always say, when you're already $500 Billion DOWN, you can't lose!
  • FishFish
    FishFish Posts: 2,152
    Robert88 wrote:
    It seems we (the UK) cannot prove the Russians (The Kremlin) poisoned the Skripals. Yet we have invoked global support against Russia thanks to the f**king idiot May appointed Foreign Secretary.

    https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/981209292463362048

    Russia says we did the poisoning to divert attention from Brexit.

    Trump isn't going to stick his neck out for us on this one. Quite the opposite - we are leaving ourselves open to being stitched up.


    There was an interesting interview by the former British Ambassador to the country relating to murders of Russian nationals ion the UK. There is never any proof to criminal prosecution standards - but everyone knows they did it.

    He was complaining about one of the killings to the Foreign Ministry in Russia and they'd not even heard of it so purposing murder is probably restricted to a very few people within Russia. But I don't think that anyone needs to stick their necks out - this is not going anywhere; the 'other' people in the Kremlin will stop the escalation as they have done in the Middle East and it won't become a war. If it does then the Nato will invoke a response from the USA which they will respect because there is a natural order of things opposing an unnatural disorder.
    ...take your pickelf on your holibobs.... :D

    jeez :roll:
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It's plainly a deliberate mis-interpretation of a sciencist saying "we can never be 100% sure about anything".

    The Russians did it, it's from that lab, stop muddying the waters. You're doing Putin's work for him.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    You're doing Putin's work for him.

    Fishbotski doing Putin's work? Don't be daft...
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's plainly a deliberate mis-interpretation of a sciencist saying "we can never be 100% sure about anything".

    The Russians did it, it's from that lab, stop muddying the waters. You're doing Putin's work for him.

    Just like the dozen or more previous murders about which our government did bugger all. And in reality they are just making noises over this one. Chelski fans can sleep easy.
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Is Chelsea anywhere near Salisbury? Also has any assassination happened in Chelsea? I thought Sussex was the hotbed of Russian assassinations. The Chelski lot would be well protected I reckon. Besides you think they got their money without Putin backing? They're pretty much safe and free to visit mother Russia not so got Putin critics / opponents and former spies / double agents. I doubt they can afford Chelski prices or to live there.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Is Chelsea anywhere near Salisbury? Also has any assassination happened in Chelsea? I thought Sussex was the hotbed of Russian assassinations. The Chelski lot would be well protected I reckon. Besides you think they got their money without Putin backing? They're pretty much safe and free to visit mother Russia not so got Putin critics / opponents and former spies / double agents. I doubt they can afford Chelski prices or to live there.

    Salisbury is full of chins, whose offspring live in Fulham/Battersea/Chelsea.

    But Russians to go Mayfair, not Chelsea.

    Wannabe Eurotrash Russians may make their way to South Ken.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Is Chelsea anywhere near Salisbury? Also has any assassination happened in Chelsea? I thought Sussex was the hotbed of Russian assassinations. The Chelski lot would be well protected I reckon. Besides you think they got their money without Putin backing? They're pretty much safe and free to visit mother Russia not so got Putin critics / opponents and former spies / double agents. I doubt they can afford Chelski prices or to live there.

    Salisbury is full of chins, whose offspring live in Fulham/Battersea/Chelsea.

    But Russians to go Mayfair, not Chelsea.

    Wannabe Eurotrash Russians may make their way to South Ken.

    Lots of Russians die in Surrey (you would think they would move)

    Putin only kills those who cross him so his buddy Abramovich keeps out of politics.

    Rick - if "chin" is not a typo can you elaborate for the older generations
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Ironic nickname for poshos who are often chinless wonders. Step up from posh as plainly they’ve had enough wealth for long enough to be inbreeding for a while.
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Ironic nickname for poshos who are often chinless wonders. Step up from posh as plainly they’ve had enough wealth for long enough to be inbreeding for a while.
    https://www.instagram.com/chinocchios.chin.dictionary/
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Oh I now equate Rick Chasey with Ali G! I can really imagine him kicking back with the bling and brightly coloured shell suits. West side! For real!

    Rick if it's not true please don't dispel that image I have, in another life I reckon it'll be you anyway. :D:wink:
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Is Chelsea anywhere near Salisbury? Also has any assassination happened in Chelsea? I thought Sussex was the hotbed of Russian assassinations. The Chelski lot would be well protected I reckon. Besides you think they got their money without Putin backing? They're pretty much safe and free to visit mother Russia not so got Putin critics / opponents and former spies / double agents. I doubt they can afford Chelski prices or to live there.

    Facebook data reveals that a disproportionate number of Chelski fans inhabit Salisbury. Like Man U fans who also take care not to live in the North even tho' many could afford a street in Salford*, never mind a mere house.

    * obviously it is really "Salford United".
  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    Robert88 wrote:
    Facebook data reveals that a disproportionate number of Chelski fans inhabit Salisbury. Like Man U fans who also take care not to live in the North even tho' many could afford a street in Salford*, never mind a mere house.

    * obviously it is really "Salford United".

    No offence to anybody else but as someone who was actually born in Salford (albeit a long time ago!), I really don't blame anybody who chooses not to live there. I guess that parts have been scrubbed up a bit nowadays but, personally, I'll stay in the south and content myself with the odd visit to the north and, even then, only go to the better parts. As I said, no offence intended (to residents of Salford, Greater Manchester or, indeed, the north in general).
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  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    PS. On the plus side, at least there do not seem to be that many Russians up there - every one that I have ever met has been an ignorant, arrogant b'stard.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,318
    No offence?
    I’d rather live anywhere else but there but don’t take offence.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    PBlakeney wrote:
    No offence?
    I’d rather live anywhere else but there but don’t take offence.

    Salford was the car-crime capital of Britain once but they have learned their lesson - the car manufacturers have, that is.

    Anyway this isn't all about PBlakeney, what I want to know is when this Trump state visit is going ahead. My suggestion would be he combines it with his attendance at the Royal Wedding and thus saves taxpayers' money. We know how much the Trump regime loves to save spend taxpayers' money.

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