Donald Trump

pinno

Rick Chasey wrote:

Though it didn’t come out condescending in the way I’ve just made it out, but hey, it’s me right?

You're definitely not top of that list.

darkhairedlord

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Pinno wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

The people who voted for him will blame everybody but Trump. Probably start with Jews, UN, and the liberal metropolitan elite

I have a friend who moved to America. His Facebook page is ridiculous. Trump still has a lot of support and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Sure but how will the damn commy funding links go down with the rootin' tootin' gun slinging rednecks when it kicks off?
How much press reporting can he deflect at that moment in time?

I think the Russian thing is generational - to those of us who grew up in the Cold War they are the bogeyman but to anybody under forty with no real interest in international news they are just another country.

Just blame the traitors and saboteurs for defying the will of the people. Amazes me how many Brits sneer at Americans.

You have remember where put in comes from. He was kgb in a berlin border office. He was a first hand witness to Russian humiliation at the collapse of the eastern bloc and his entire political motivation has been revenge. The parallels to Hitler are striking. Is trump doing a chamberlain? Pee's in our time?

Matthewfalle

PBlakeney wrote:

orraloon wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

...and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Detect any resonance with the Disunited Kingdom? Politicos rabble rousing amongst the retards and dotards, abetted by vested interest media?

At least Cofveve-man will be gone within the next x years (or months) whereas d-UK is xxxxed for a generation.

Unfortunately, yes.
I put Brexit fans on a par with Trump fans. On all levels.

I think the only difference is that Trump supporters have only hashed up their country for four years whereas Brexit voters have hashed up their country for generations.

pinno

Matthewfalle wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

orraloon wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

...and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Detect any resonance with the Disunited Kingdom? Politicos rabble rousing amongst the retards and dotards, abetted by vested interest media?

At least Cofveve-man will be gone within the next x years (or months) whereas d-UK is xxxxed for a generation.

Unfortunately, yes.
I put Brexit fans on a par with Trump fans. On all levels.

I think the only difference is that Trump supporters have only hashed up their country for four years whereas Brexit voters have hashed up their country for generations.

Skim reading MF (resident off shore tax expert) were we?

orraloon wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

...and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Detect any resonance with the Disunited Kingdom? Politicos rabble rousing amongst the retards and dotards, abetted by vested interest media?

At least Cofveve-man will be gone within the next x years (or months) whereas d-UK is xxxxed for a generation.

mfin

Trump saying he would never call Kim Jong Un "short and fat". It would sound odd coming from someone who is tall and fat.

I was trying to think how far back you have to go to find a president of the US that is fatter than Trump? Clinton was quite overweight but not fat like Trump I don't think.

pblakeney

For anyone wondering what the thinking is in small town U.S.A., watch this.
And then wonder some more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-c ... -is-coming

robert88

PBlakeney wrote:

For anyone wondering what the thinking is in small town U.S.A., watch this.
And then wonder some more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-c ... -is-coming

https://youtu.be/2LrMutOPC-o

PhilipPirrip

mfin wrote:

Trump saying he would never call Kim Jong Un "short and fat". It would sound odd coming from someone who is tall and fat.

Their fatness might be the common ground they need to start diplomacy talks.

That tweet was so childish though. A need for validation and a lack of insight into his own behaviour, very much like a spoilt child whose parents never see wrong in them.

motogull

Pinched off twitter:

Media: lying
Mueller: lying
Comey: lying
Obama: lying
Clinton: lying
Judges: lying
Sex assault accusers: lying
Scientists re: climate change: lying
Doctors re: ACA: lying
Mother of slain U.S. soldier: lying
Intelligence services: lying
Putin: "He means it. I believe him.”

bianchimoon

Veronese68 wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

orraloon wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

...and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Detect any resonance with the Disunited Kingdom? Politicos rabble rousing amongst the retards and dotards, abetted by vested interest media?

At least Cofveve-man will be gone within the next x years (or months) whereas d-UK is xxxxed for a generation.

Unfortunately, yes.
I put Brexit fans on a par with Trump fans. On all levels.

Yep, completely agree with Mr Loon and Blakey. Our leave voting phucktards will blame the EU and remain voters for scuppering their glorious new UK. It won't be their fault for voting for the monumental screw up anyone with sense told them it would be.

totally agree with Orra, PB and Vero on this, I'm waiting for the excuse..."the bus said £350m to the NHS, I didn't know a bus could lie"

briantrumpet

bianchimoon wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

orraloon wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

...and yes, liberal metropolitan elite is the first thing thrown at anyone disagreeing.

Detect any resonance with the Disunited Kingdom? Politicos rabble rousing amongst the retards and dotards, abetted by vested interest media?

At least Cofveve-man will be gone within the next x years (or months) whereas d-UK is xxxxed for a generation.

Unfortunately, yes.
I put Brexit fans on a par with Trump fans. On all levels.

Yep, completely agree with Mr Loon and Blakey. Our leave voting phucktards will blame the EU and remain voters for scuppering their glorious new UK. It won't be their fault for voting for the monumental screw up anyone with sense told them it would be.

totally agree with Orra, PB and Vero on this, I'm waiting for the excuse..."the bus said £350m to the NHS, I didn't know a bus could lie"

In both cases, the rich and powerful managed to persuade those at the bottom of the pile that the agenda of Trump/Brexit would help those who had been 'left behind' - this was blatant lying in both cases, but the only way they could get the poll numbers. And it both cases it's threatening to bring about what can only be described as revolutions. There's no nuance in either case. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

FishFish

Well personally I want to be part of Europe. But not part of the currency and certainly not subordinate to the European Parliament and I think that is generally true among people. Free trade and the right to move and work will do. And whilst the European Parliament did provide good laws and protections to us in the past, our own parliamentary processes can do just as well.
Sadly I don't want to be subject to the current government here in Britain - I have contempt for it and hope that we have an election to change things.

imposter2.0

FishFish wrote:

and hope that we have an election to change things.

Like that's ever actually happened....

tangled_metal

If you don't like the current government hang around a bit. There'll be another along shortly that you'll not like too!

Seriously, there's nothing better waiting behind the curtains ready to take centre stage and make everything alright. Tory or labour. There's no hope among those in Westminster. It can't be made better. It's only a different kind of worse.

We're sinking. Add a nation we're in decline. Take London out of the equation and we're already fooooked! And relying on London is no answer to anything. There's been whole generations of manufacturing jobs thrown away. And before you blame thatcher just wake up to the fact she was the solution to unions and all that cr@p under labour. If socialists don't like Tories and tory lite under Blair then look to your side for at least part of the blame. Accept that Corbyn and his socialism isn't the answer neither.

We need revolution not evolution or reversal of evolution that is Corbyn. And like it or hate it we need money men and women to invest in British manufacturing. We need to be more like Germany I think.

Of course I don't have any answers but at least I can tell when it's all gone bad in Westminster.

And USA and a lot of the world too.

bianchimoon

and on today's BBC news "for the first time in seven years there are less shops closing on the high street, the reversal is due to more beauty parlours and coffee shops opening up" phew we're saved!

tangled_metal

So the betting shops and charity shops have competition?!

pblakeney

bianchimoon wrote:

...the reversal is due to more beauty parlours and coffee shops opening up" phew we're saved!

Tangled Metal wrote:

So the betting shops and charity shops have competition?!

Sums up my high street.

dinyull

Rick Chasey wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Pinno wrote:

The whole shebang is a ticking time bomb:

Trump promises from tax cuts to walls and nothing yet has materialised.
The lack of a trade increase/reduction of trade deficit (vis-a-vis Pacific Trade agreement/China/Canada).
His inability to get any ill conceived reforms through.
The dwindling stock of senate cabinet members and the dwindling choices of allies to fill the vacated roles.
The impending court cases to key advisers and complicit individuals.
The appointment of people to certain positions that will prove to be inept very quickly.
...and ultimately, complete disillusionment from the electorate that voted for him.

A house of cards.

The people who voted for him will blame everybody but Trump. Probably start with Jews, UN, and the liberal metropolitan elite

Can’t remember where but I read a study that suggested that Trump voters don’t expect Trump success and his failure to get anything done in government merely mirrors their own feelings and so reinforces their support. In essence, it concluded, they vote and support trump as a reflection of their own hopelessness.

Though it didn’t come out condescending in the way I’ve just made it out, but hey, it’s me right?

This?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ers-215800

dinyull

He said he was going to bring back the steel mills.

“You’re never going to get those steel mills back,” she said.

“But he said he was going to,” I said.

“Yeah, but how’s he going to bring them back?”

“I don’t know,” I said, “but it’s what he said, last year, and people voted for him because of it.”

“They always say they want to bring the steel mills back,” Frear said, “but they’re going to have to do a lot of work to bring the steel mills back.”

He hasn’t built the wall yet, either. “I don’t care about his wall,” said Frear, 76. “I mean, if he gets his wall—I don’t give a shit, you know? But he has a good idea: Keep ’em out.”

He also hasn’t repealed Obamacare. “That’s Congress,” she said.

And the drug scourge here continues unabated. “And it’s not going to improve for a long time,” she said, “until people learn, which they won’t.”

“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”

Next to Bala was a gray-haired man who told me he voted for Trump and was happy so far because “he’s kept his promises.”

I asked which ones.

“Border security.” But there’s no wall yet. “No fault of his,” the man said.


What else? “Getting rid of Obamacare.” But he hasn’t. “Well, he’s tried to.”

What else? “Defunding Planned Parenthood.” But he didn’t. “Not his fault again,” the man said.

F*ck. Me.

robert88

I have a dream..

FishFish

Impressive collection of professors of international relations on this site. Can you not just understand that the election of a political leader through democratic processes is the will of the people - that is all. And can you not understand that post comprising an http link or a copied post reflects both lack of imagination and crass stupidity as well as a singular ineptitude in social media use.

bendertherobot

Hush now Vlad

pblakeney

FishFish wrote:

Impressive collection of professors of international relations on this site. Can you not just understand that the election of a political leader through democratic processes is the will of the people - that is all.

Says a lot about the people.

letap73

This could turn out be very interesting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 07b9d87685

letap73

FishFish wrote:

Well personally I want to be part of Europe. But not part of the currency and certainly not subordinate to the European Parliament and I think that is generally true among people. Free trade and the right to move and work will do. And whilst the European Parliament did provide good laws and protections to us in the past, our own parliamentary processes can do just as well.
Sadly I don't want to be subject to the current government here in Britain - I have contempt for it and hope that we have an election to change things.

Since you just posted this:
Can you not just understand that the election of a political leader through democratic processes is the will of the people - that is all.

Why don't you accept your own advice?

pinno

FishFish wrote:

Impressive collection of professors of international relations on this site. Can you not just understand that the election of a political leader through democratic processes is the will of the people - that is all. And can you not understand that post comprising an http link or a copied post reflects both lack of imagination and crass stupidity as well as a singular ineptitude in social media use.

Are you saying that we should use Twitter?

Matthewfalle

PBlakeney wrote:

FishFish wrote:

Impressive collection of professors of international relations on this site. Can you not just understand that the election of a political leader through democratic processes is the will of the people - that is all.

Says a lot about the people.

So does Brexit.

That was another bright idea.

pblakeney

From the previous page.

PBlakeney wrote:

I put Brexit fans on a par with Trump fans. On all levels.

PhilipPirrip

So it appears Don Jr has commited a crime by accessing a website using a stolen password gained from Julian Assange.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ks/545738/

It appears that under the US' Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in Assange 'guessing' the password (yeah right, guessing) to putintrump.org he committed an act of cyber crime. By Don Jr then using that password to access the site also constitutes an act of cyber crime.

The messages themselves may contain little of value to Mueller but their implication and where they lead could be substantial.

Also, it's ironic that Don Jr and his lawyer are crying over the leak of these private messages when the purposes contained within the messages was to gain access to others' private information.

bendertherobot

He has a very very major announcement today, when he gets back.