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You've already made your mind up about what you think I am saying despite me clarifying more than once. If it was a dig at Labour it would have been in the 'save your country' thread. For the third time :roll: it is having a go at these hard line so-called peace activists who are thteatening violence ahainst Labour MPs who voted for the commons motion.:roll: Read my post above - I've already said this is not a dig at Labour. They are supposedly 'peace activists' - although tbh that is a very charitable description of people who are intimidating and threatening Labour MPs....these are the apologist fury chimps who I referred to not too long ago. The hard left grass roots in all its glory.
Get off your high horse and RTFP
your not one of these Peace Activists are???? you have zero idea if these people are genuine labour members or people like you who joined labour just to stir up trouble? or just trolls?
You d not have bought it up if it wasnt a dig at labour, something you do at every conceivable opportunity
the irony is that it the Tories who have run a bully campaign against young people, something you ve glossed over :shock:
They dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
They dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?
Come on fess up, it you isnt ?
Fairly certain that if there was a thread on top ten tubular tires, you d manage to get in a dig at labour and that these lefties are using butyl instead of latex :roll:0 -
They dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?
Come on fess up, it you isnt ?
Fairly certain that if there was a thread on top ten tubular tires, you d manage to get in a dig at labour and that these lefties are using butyl instead of latex :roll:
I'm waiting for him to pop up on the climate change thread, complaining about lefties forcing him to cycle up a hill instead of going up in a van.0 -
So, we all feeling safer now then? Now that we have a token set of Tornados dropping big fireworks?
Then the drumbeats carry on. I heard General the Lord Dannatt (I have this unfortunate mental image of the Stephen Fry character from Blackadder General Melchett, bah) no less advocating physical 'boots on the ground'.
This is the same chap that believes his God saved him 4 times... Oh dear...
http://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/136794/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/Reaching_Out/Army_chief_says.aspx
Bombs eh? Can't get enough of them.
Quote: "Former head of the British Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, who said soldiers need to be spiritually prepared for death, believes God saved his own life four times."
I despair, when we discover a new planet where rationality is a condition of occupancy, i want to be be on the first flight to it! Although my nephew is reasonably high ranked in the army says, obviously they don't want people with too much intelligence in the lower ranks as they ask too many questions, they are taken off the streets into the army environment 'broken' and put back together again to do as they're told so they follow orders without question OK so that bit's obvious, didn't realise the lack of thinking went right to the very top!
And before any serving or ex-military take exception to what i've said save your pixels i won't be getting involved All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Penny finally dropped?They dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?
Come on fess up, it you isnt ?
Fairly certain that if there was a thread on top ten tubular tires, you d manage to get in a dig at labour and that these lefties are using butyl instead of latex :roll:
I was hoping you would eventually get it, as a part of my 'helping lefties to learn' initiative "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Quote: "Former head of the British Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, who said soldiers need to be spiritually prepared for death, believes God saved his own life four times."
God saves no ones life, he a fuggin idiot if he really believes that, he was lucky that all.
Dannat came out with a classic, he wants to arm and train syrain refugees and send them back to a: over throw Assad and b: destroy IS :shock:
Just what the place needs, some more uncontrolled unaccountable fighters and weapons :shock: and on syrian bombing, even he didnt seem to believe his own argument.
i think we might be heading for western troops on the ground, at the very least as part of a UN peace keeping force, after IS move to libya or Afgan.0 -
No way finchy, the more I take the van to the top, the warmer it will get. It's going to be a bit nippy up there next week so roll on global warmingThey dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?
Come on fess up, it you isnt ?
Fairly certain that if there was a thread on top ten tubular tires, you d manage to get in a dig at labour and that these lefties are using butyl instead of latex :roll:
I'm waiting for him to pop up on the climate change thread, complaining about lefties forcing him to cycle up a hill instead of going up in a van. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No way finchy, the more I take the van to the top, the warmer it will get. It's going to be a bit nippy up there next week so roll on global warmingThey dont know who these tw@ts are associated with but thrre appear to be links to 'stop the war' and Momentum. Labour (Watson and Corbyn) have to their credit denounced it.
Comprendez?
Come on fess up, it you isnt ?
Fairly certain that if there was a thread on top ten tubular tires, you d manage to get in a dig at labour and that these lefties are using butyl instead of latex :roll:
I'm waiting for him to pop up on the climate change thread, complaining about lefties forcing him to cycle up a hill instead of going up in a van.
Be careful what you wish for. A warmer world is likely to mean parts like Wales get a lot wetter, which means an increased chance of sheep to human STD transmission. (Probably)0 -
Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0
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Err, no, oh purveyor of panic and Daily Mail readership.
It's one nutter with a blade.
If he was serious he wouldn't use a knife, he'd do it in Oxford Street or similar for maximum panic and disruption and he'd do a lot more damage.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
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This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
I have spoken earlier about the role of Turkey and its motives being unclear.
IF the author of this piece is correct, then the Russians were well ahead of the curve regarding Iraq. Also read what is the supposed Turkish aim.
The last paragraph opens the question of Israel's response should IS prevail in Syria. Not a pleasant scenario.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/01/russia-fighting-isis-moscow-turkey0 -
Have to say, Frankie Boyle's been particularly articulate about all of this: his latest instalment
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/04/isis-wants-an-insane-medieval-race-war-and-weve-decided-to-give-them-one?CMP=fb_gu0 -
Ingeresting but how does he (or you) propose rounding them up and putting them in a cell?Have to say, Frankie Boyle's been particularly articulate about all of this: his latest instalment
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/04/isis-wants-an-insane-medieval-race-war-and-weve-decided-to-give-them-one?CMP=fb_gu"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Tell them that there are 90 (up the ante) virgins just waiting on them.
Ingeresting but how does he (or you) propose rounding them up and putting them in a cell?Have to say, Frankie Boyle's been particularly articulate about all of this: his latest instalment
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/04/isis-wants-an-insane-medieval-race-war-and-weve-decided-to-give-them-one?CMP=fb_gu
Seems to work for other purposes.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Have to say, Frankie Boyle's been particularly articulate about all of this: his latest instalment
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/04/isis-wants-an-insane-medieval-race-war-and-weve-decided-to-give-them-one?CMP=fb_gu
Frankie Boyle??? you might as well ask some one on here or down the pub.
maybe Rosemary Holis if you want the view of someone who knows what they are talking about.
As Steve0 said, how do you get them in jail?
unless the west works with Putin (if the west had listen to him 2 or 3 years ago we might not be in this mess.) and stops the civil war first, then IS will always have a home in syria, as they are in a failed state and Syrians will continue to die
a plan that involves 4 or 5 years of bombing syria is no plan at all and will lead to ALL the syrians still alive coming to Europe.0 -
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
the guy who shouted to the under ground knife maniac "you aint no Muslim brov" got it spot on and there in lies the hope for everyone.0 -
Err, no, oh purveyor of panic and Daily Mail readership.
It's one nutter with a blade.
If he was serious he wouldn't use a knife, he'd do it in Oxford Street or similar for maximum panic and disruption and he'd do a lot more damage.
Not a purveyor of Panic. Nor do I read that toilet paper the Mail. I am merely highlighting that the UK decision to drop bombs on Syria will be a catalyst for idiots with sympathies to IS. Be they irrational failed attacks on innocents at a tube station or a cleverly executed attack in Oxford St on the Saturday before Christmas.
Now we see that because Germany have decided to lend their support, some idiot stupidly tries to bring down a Lufthansa flight on its way to Belgrade.
How about this as a solution. The West withdraws. And let Putin sort it out with Assad.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
I tend to agree Mr Goo, Assad is a horrible Bast@rd but so were Gadaffi and Sadam, but while they ran their respective nations there was stability of a kind.
Err, no, oh purveyor of panic and Daily Mail readership.
It's one nutter with a blade.
If he was serious he wouldn't use a knife, he'd do it in Oxford Street or similar for maximum panic and disruption and he'd do a lot more damage.
Not a purveyor of Panic. Nor do I read that toilet paper the Mail. I am merely highlighting that the UK decision to drop bombs on Syria will be a catalyst for idiots with sympathies to IS. Be they irrational failed attacks on innocents at a tube station or a cleverly executed attack in Oxford St on the Saturday before Christmas.
Now we see that because Germany have decided to lend their support, some idiot stupidly tries to bring down a Lufthansa flight on its way to Belgrade.
How about this as a solution. The West withdraws. And let Putin sort it out with Assad.
On the bombing issue, in October this year Cameron said, I quote "Russia bombing Syria will lead to more radicalisation and increased terrorism"....................What is the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?Tail end Charlie
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.0 -
What's the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?
We paid for the latter.0 -
That is the obvious answer, however, there is no prize.What's the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?
We paid for the latter.
The serious question still needs to be answered though.Tail end Charlie
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.0 -
That is the obvious answer, however, there is no prize.What's the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?
We paid for the latter.
The serious question still needs to be answered though.
its been answered on here and else where, its just that the West seems intent on making the same mistakes of the past0 -
I'm feeling paranoid today, so I'm going to suggest that a situation of permanent conflict might be useful to those in power.0
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I tend to agree Mr Goo, Assad is a horrible Bast@rd but so were Gadaffi and Sadam, but while they ran their respective nations there was stability of a kind.
Err, no, oh purveyor of panic and Daily Mail readership.
It's one nutter with a blade.
If he was serious he wouldn't use a knife, he'd do it in Oxford Street or similar for maximum panic and disruption and he'd do a lot more damage.
Not a purveyor of Panic. Nor do I read that toilet paper the Mail. I am merely highlighting that the UK decision to drop bombs on Syria will be a catalyst for idiots with sympathies to IS. Be they irrational failed attacks on innocents at a tube station or a cleverly executed attack in Oxford St on the Saturday before Christmas.
Now we see that because Germany have decided to lend their support, some idiot stupidly tries to bring down a Lufthansa flight on its way to Belgrade.
How about this as a solution. The West withdraws. And let Putin sort it out with Assad.
On the bombing issue, in October this year Cameron said, I quote "Russia bombing Syria will lead to more radicalisation and increased terrorism"....................What is the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-britain-idUKKCN0RY08520151004
Was Cameron not speaking about Russia bombing Free Libyan Army to prop up Assad? The UK will be bombing IS, be it infrastructure or in support of groups like the Kurds fighting IS, seemingly in a manner similar to action in Iraq.
How sad that we are debating the propping up of an evil regime such as Assad, who as Frank says is a complete bastard, to fight a group that is threatening us. So every atrocity that he commits in future we would be associated with by proxy.
A pragmatic solution maybe be not palatable.0 -
Pragmatism, Bally. Sometimes the most unpalatable way is the only way, think of the good friday agreement and how criminals were let free. Not very good on the face of it but it bought about peace in NI and saved a whole lot of grief and further deaths.
I tend to agree Mr Goo, Assad is a horrible Bast@rd but so were Gadaffi and Sadam, but while they ran their respective nations there was stability of a kind.
Err, no, oh purveyor of panic and Daily Mail readership.
It's one nutter with a blade.
If he was serious he wouldn't use a knife, he'd do it in Oxford Street or similar for maximum panic and disruption and he'd do a lot more damage.
Not a purveyor of Panic. Nor do I read that toilet paper the Mail. I am merely highlighting that the UK decision to drop bombs on Syria will be a catalyst for idiots with sympathies to IS. Be they irrational failed attacks on innocents at a tube station or a cleverly executed attack in Oxford St on the Saturday before Christmas.
Now we see that because Germany have decided to lend their support, some idiot stupidly tries to bring down a Lufthansa flight on its way to Belgrade.
How about this as a solution. The West withdraws. And let Putin sort it out with Assad.
On the bombing issue, in October this year Cameron said, I quote "Russia bombing Syria will lead to more radicalisation and increased terrorism"....................What is the difference between Russian bombs and British bombs?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-britain-idUKKCN0RY08520151004
Was Cameron not speaking about Russia bombing Free Libyan Army to prop up Assad? The UK will be bombing IS, be it infrastructure or in support of groups like the Kurds fighting IS, seemingly in a manner similar to action in Iraq.
How sad that we are debating the propping up of an evil regime such as Assad, who as Frank says is a complete bastard, to fight a group that is threatening us. So every atrocity that he commits in future we would be associated with by proxy.
A pragmatic solution maybe be not palatable.
Thing is with Syria it is very complex and the politics/finances involved us minions on all sides are totally expendable. Please watch Bitter lake mate, it'll be the most worthwhile two hours of your life (forum comment wise)Tail end Charlie
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I read a very interesting article on the BBC website over the weekend about the deposing/execution of Gaddafi. It confirmed as we have all thought, that whilst he was an evil bar steward he at least brought stability to his country. Not only that, but there was the opportunity for his citizens to earn good money and improve their lot. Not only did the Libyan's benefit but other countries in the sub Saharan region and the Gulf of Guinea. They reported on a district of Accra, Ghana which became very affluent due to workers returning from Libya and building houses and contributing the local economy. Now nothing. The Ghanians now state that their only option to earn money is to get to Europe or if they can afford it Brazil.
Well done USA/UK/France et al.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
I read a very interesting article on the BBC website over the weekend about the deposing/execution of Gaddafi. It confirmed as we have all thought, that whilst he was an evil bar steward he at least brought stability to his country. Not only that, but there was the opportunity for his citizens to earn good money and improve their lot. Not only did the Libyan's benefit but other countries in the sub Saharan region and the Gulf of Guinea. They reported on a district of Accra, Ghana which became very affluent due to workers returning from Libya and building houses and contributing the local economy. Now nothing. The Ghanians now state that their only option to earn money is to get to Europe or if they can afford it Brazil.
Well done USA/UK/France et al.
http://www.amren.com/news/2012/05/life-in-rhodesia-was-better-than-zimbabwe/
Life in Rhodesia was better under a white supremacist regime than in Zimbabwe. On that basis, should the world have done all it could to keep Ian Smith in charge?0 -
The political landscape in France seems to be changing.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/06/front-national-wins-opening-round-in-frances-regional-elections0
