Paolini done for cocaine
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The thing I've never understood about legalising and regulating drugs is how this stops Johnny Skaghead nicking my telly to pay for his habit."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19650722#p19650722]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:The thing I've never understood about legalising and regulating drugs is how this stops Johnny Skaghead nicking my telly to pay for his habit.
Johnny Skaghead becomes an accepted and respectable member of society following legalisation of skag, and goes on to forge a glittering career in the City. Instead of associating with criminal elements and being drawn into low level crime to support his habit, Johnny participates in the facilitation of global markets that exploit and exacerbate inequalities in wealth, stealing a tiny fraction of everybody's TVs. He spends the proceeds on German cars, foreign holidays and Fortnum & Masons Finest Single Estate High Grown Afghan Skag.0 -
think thats a very small part of what is actually sold surely.... but yea, its a start.
There is no positive justification for drugs however hard you try.
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The $53 million in tax raised by marijuana is a pretty good one.0 -
Gloss over the problems in one sweeping statement.
There is no positive justification for drugs however hard you try.
Other people doing drugs affects me, my country and this World. Massively.
Sit down and think deeply what problems would go away if you removed drugs from this World. It is quite mind blowingly extensive.
I agree with the sentiment. The same could be said for a myriad of other things, like smoking, alcohol, religion, air pollution, armies, chemicals in food, etc, etc.
Add to that Amazon, Nestle, Starbucks, Primark, banks, Coca Cola, McDonalds for various reasons...they all have an adverse affect on the world in one or more forms.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19650722#p19650722]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:The thing I've never understood about legalising and regulating drugs is how this stops Johnny Skaghead nicking my telly to pay for his habit.
Johnny Skaghead becomes an accepted and respectable member of society following legalisation of skag, and goes on to forge a glittering career in the City. Instead of associating with criminal elements and being drawn into low level crime to support his habit, Johnny participates in the facilitation of global markets that exploit and exacerbate inequalities in wealth, stealing a tiny fraction of everybody's TVs. He spends the proceeds on German cars, foreign holidays and Fortnum & Masons Finest Single Estate High Grown Afghan Skag.
I hope you're not insinuating that there's a link with a great proportion of crime in our society being driven by drug addiction and dependency which is in itself is largely driven by social and economic inequality (the Jonathan Skagheads nearly always come from the same background - why is that?)... Which has been driven to its current highest levels by the concerted efforts of governments (either intentional or inadvertent) and City traders and big business...? You're not insinuating that, are you?
Because if you were, I'd imagine any bigwigs working in the City with any morals would shoot themselves. Or, if they can't get to daddy's country estate to get a gun, take an overdose (thereby creating at least one positive thing caused by drugs...)0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19650722#p19650722]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:The thing I've never understood about legalising and regulating drugs is how this stops Johnny Skaghead nicking my telly to pay for his habit.
Johnny Skaghead becomes an accepted and respectable member of society following legalisation of skag, and goes on to forge a glittering career in the City. Instead of associating with criminal elements and being drawn into low level crime to support his habit, Johnny participates in the facilitation of global markets that exploit and exacerbate inequalities in wealth, stealing a tiny fraction of everybody's TVs. He spends the proceeds on German cars, foreign holidays and Fortnum & Masons Finest Single Estate High Grown Afghan Skag.
Johnny Skaghead goes to his local GP and gets shots of morphine sourced originally from Pakistan and Afghanistan so that he has no desire to nick your TV to fund his habit that normally costs the state £thousands and will be weaned off the brown stuff in a few weeks.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
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According to Kristoff, Paolini never bothered with the B sample shizz
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristoff-no-room-for-party-drugs-in-the-peloton/
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761047#p19761047]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:According to Kristoff, Paolini never bothered with the B sample shizz
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristoff-no-room-for-party-drugs-in-the-peloton/
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Probably wants to draw a line under it.0 -
If there's a lesson to be learned from all this, it's that if you want to celebrate a big classic win with some blow make sure it's a BIG one.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761047#p19761047]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:According to Kristoff, Paolini never bothered with the B sample shizz
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristoff-no-room-for-party-drugs-in-the-peloton/
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Just ask Tommeke.Supporter of Sky, transparency and clean cycling. Opponent of pseudoscience.
The greatest clean cycling performance ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eiN2vfGKhk0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19761047#p19761047]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:According to Kristoff, Paolini never bothered with the B sample shizz
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristoff-no-room-for-party-drugs-in-the-peloton/
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Probably wants to draw a line under it.
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Kristoff saying it wasn't a surprise he was done with the way he was acting.0
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Poor Kristoff. Had a standout season, talks about targets for next season, gets a headline about coke.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Poor Kristoff. Had a standout season, talks about targets for next season, gets a headline about coke.
Well, it is the Real Thing0 -
Ba-doom tishIt's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/paolini-admits-to-cocaine-use-and-sleeping-tablet-addiction/
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/katusha-doctors-knew-about-luca-paolinis-sleeping-drug-addiction-205205
Seems like the Katusha doctors should have stepped in and got him help way before it came to this :-(0 -
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/paolini-admits-to-cocaine-use-and-sleeping-tablet-addiction/
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/katusha-doctors-knew-about-luca-paolinis-sleeping-drug-addiction-205205
Seems like the Katusha doctors should have stepped in and got him help way before it came to this :-(
In fairness, they can't do much to help him if he won't be helped, refusing to prescribe is pretty much all they can do. Looks like the coke positive was a blessing in disguise.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Must be a nightmare to have that going on in a team."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Seems like a pretty bad cycle.
He needs as much help as punishment.0 -
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/paolini-admits-to-cocaine-use-and-sleeping-tablet-addiction/
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/katusha-doctors-knew-about-luca-paolinis-sleeping-drug-addiction-205205
Seems like the Katusha doctors should have stepped in and got him help way before it came to this :-(
In fairness, they can't do much to help him if he won't be helped, refusing to prescribe is pretty much all they can do. Looks like the coke positive was a blessing in disguise.
not race him till he can survive without the sleeping pills would be the morally correct thing to do, but cycling is a business and morals rarely apply there0 -
18 month ban.0
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dish_dash wrote:18 month ban.
Very harsh, considering Boonen was positive for cocaine and got nothing!left the forum March 20230 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:dish_dash wrote:18 month ban.
Very harsh, considering Boonen was positive for cocaine and got nothing!
I thought we wanted stiffer sanctions than in the bad old days?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Boonen did get a couple of token bans didn't he?
Also wikipedia claims that positive #2 blew Boonen's negotiations to join Jean-René Bernaudeau's team - is that a joke?0 -
dish_dash wrote:Boonen did get a couple of token bans didn't he?
Also wikipedia claims that positive #2 blew Boonen's negotiations to join Jean-René Bernaudeau's team - is that a joke?
Worth it then."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:dish_dash wrote:Boonen did get a couple of token bans didn't he?
Also wikipedia claims that positive #2 blew Boonen's negotiations to join Jean-René Bernaudeau's team - is that a joke?
Worth it then.
Absolut. Can you imagine?0 -
Stiffer sanctions for actual dopers, not people with personal issues.disgruntledgoat wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:dish_dash wrote:18 month ban.
Very harsh, considering Boonen was positive for cocaine and got nothing!
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Seems about in line with Mr Gavazzi:-
2004, he got 14 months for strike one.
Strike 2 got him 30 months
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mattia- ... -positive/
So, this week, strike 3 should get him a lifetime.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mattia- ... hird-time/
Since Rick has been banging on about this forum having doping double standards recently, I expect him to be along shortly to express how it was a travesty that Boonen's punishment was to slight and he should that he have served at least a year in the bin..............................................................oh wait. "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Stiffer sanctions for actual dopers, not people with personal issues.disgruntledgoat wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:dish_dash wrote:18 month ban.
Very harsh, considering Boonen was positive for cocaine and got nothing!
I thought we wanted stiffer sanctions than in the bad old days?
totally... not fair at all, even more so to a 39 years old rider, who doesn't have much left in the tank.
I think the rules on doping have too many shades of grey. Cocaine is either doping, then he gets 2 years or it's not, then he walks away... it's time they make up their mind about it... it's not helpingleft the forum March 20230 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:RichN95 wrote:
Stiffer sanctions for actual dopers, not people with personal issues.disgruntledgoat wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:dish_dash wrote:18 month ban.
Very harsh, considering Boonen was positive for cocaine and got nothing!
I thought we wanted stiffer sanctions than in the bad old days?
totally... not fair at all, even more so to a 39 years old rider, who doesn't have much left in the tank.
I think the rules on doping have too many shades of grey. Cocaine is either doping, then he gets 2 years or it's not, then he walks away... it's time they make up their mind about it... it's not helping
As it happens, I agree. But it's not really fair to hark back ten years to say it's out of line with the standard."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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