TdF 2015 - Stage 6 - Abbeville - Le Hauve ***Spoilers***
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Pretty long time Stybar was out in front, strong win. I would say Gilbert would have taken the win with ease had he been there.
If you watch the video of the crash, good to see a BMC rider come up fast, jump off his bike, take TJ's bike and get him on his way.Contador is the Greatest0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
Ever since Armstrong years, this is now so standard it's barely worth reporting.0 -
The incident with the little girl is a completely different one.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647314#p19647314]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Seems that the bidon throwing affair rumbles on:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremycwhittle/status/619101982666702848
Not clear if this relates to Nibali, or another Astana rider, but it seems the story has a grain of truth to it.
At the time, I couldn't see how Nibali could have managed it, but we now know that Froome had stopped to change a wheel, when Nibali came past.
It would explain why Froome went straight to the Astana bus, rather than his own.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Personally, if I was in that position, I'd wear it. People who go to watch the Tour want to see the jersey.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
(On the other hand Sky might use it as an excuse to not ride on the front)Twitter: @RichN950 -
That's Nibali's bike in that shot, but not Nibali...
So Nibali's bike change may well have taken place while Froome was standing around waiting for a wheel - is that when the Shark bidoned Froomedog?
From listening to various podcasts the events seem to have been:
Crash
Nibali thinks Froome caused him to come off (blatantly not true when you look at the video - heat of battle and all that)
Nibali at some point catches up with Froome and throws a bidon at him
At the stage finish Froome goes to the Astana bus to discuss the crash
They both now seem to be fine about it.
I particularly enjoyed Nibali's comment when asked if the feud would continue over the coming days "no, we're cyclists - not footballers".
Thought it was a good mature move from Froome to just go directly to Nibali at the first opportunity to discuss it calmly and sort it out. I'm sure other riders would have gone off to the press and slagged Nibali off for not knowing what he was talking about.0 -
I particularly enjoyed Nibali's comment when asked if the feud would continue over the coming days "no, we're cyclists - not footballers".
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Thing is that throwing a bidon at an opponent is a definite no no. Just ask Tom Steels. Bye bye Tour.
So hush hush is certainly the way to go."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Personally, if I was in that position, I'd wear it. People who go to watch the Tour want to see the jersey.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
(On the other hand Sky might use it as an excuse to not ride on the front)
Was discussing with a friend earlier that team sponsors may want them to wear the yellow jersey anyway. But a good point raised was having the yellow Jersey means a longer night (and less rest) with all the press interviews and publicity events that go with the jersey."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647352#p19647352]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Thing is that throwing a bidon at an opponent is a definite no no. Just ask Tom Steels. Bye bye Tour.
So hush hush is certainly the way to go.
Or have a fight on the Champs Elysees and get thrown off the race, so you rode the whole 3 weeks for nothing. Jerome Blijvens and Bobby Julich, I'm talking to you!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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But he'll still have to do those. He'll get awarded it at the end of the stage (mishaps aside). He can't decline it indefinitely.
Personally, if I was in that position, I'd wear it. People who go to watch the Tour want to see the jersey.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
(On the other hand Sky might use it as an excuse to not ride on the front)
Was discussing with a friend earlier that team sponsors may want them to wear the yellow jersey anyway. But a good point raised was having the yellow Jersey means a longer night (and less rest) with all the press interviews and publicity events that go with the jersey.Twitter: @RichN950 -
It would be good if Froomedog caught the bidon with one hand and took a drink and said "ahh, thanks for that. I was a bit thirsty"."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0
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Personally, if I was in that position, I'd wear it. People who go to watch the Tour want to see the jersey.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
(On the other hand Sky might use it as an excuse to not ride on the front)
Was discussing with a friend earlier that team sponsors may want them to wear the yellow jersey anyway. But a good point raised was having the yellow Jersey means a longer night (and less rest) with all the press interviews and publicity events that go with the jersey.
The jersey will be awarded at the end of the stage regardless so the interviews will still be an issue0 -
Also - it's not like the other teams are suddenly going to forget who's in yellow. Sky will have to do all the work they normally would to defend the jersey.0
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Froome's back wheel was buckled so he had to stop only a few metres beyond the crash and wait for a new one. If Nibali got moving again faster than Froome then that would have given him the opportunity to lob something in his direction.From listening to various podcasts the events seem to have been:
Crash
Nibali thinks Froome caused him to come off (blatantly not true when you look at the video - heat of battle and all that)
Nibali at some point catches up with Froome and throws a bidon at him
At the stage finish Froome goes to the Astana bus to discuss the crash
They both now seem to be fine about it.0 -
The jersey will be awarded at the end of the stage regardless so the interviews will still be an issue
The point was they might not want the yellow jersey at all for the first several days. Let someone else have all the hassle then take the jersey in the Alps.
Edit= only needs to be within a few seconds of the other credible GC contenders, for now."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
Ever since Armstrong years, this is now so standard it's barely worth reporting.
Merckx started this with Ocana crashing out in 1971, non?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647380#p19647380]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
Ever since Armstrong years, this is now so standard it's barely worth reporting.
Merckx started this with Ocana crashing out in 1971, non?
Yeah, that was newsworthy, but Armstrong started the whole ' won't start stage 1 with yellow as I haven't "earned it" for this year' etc
At least, that's my understanding.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647380#p19647380]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
Ever since Armstrong years, this is now so standard it's barely worth reporting.
Merckx started this with Ocana crashing out in 1971, non?
Yeah, that was newsworthy, but Armstrong started the whole ' won't start stage 1 with yellow as I haven't "earned it" for this year' etc
At least, that's my understanding.
I think it's always been seen as bad form to start the race in the yellow jersey if you won it the previous year. I'll have a look now but I know there is only one man in history tried the same trick in the worlds and he was already a pariah so decided he might as well go the whole hog."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
It seems like the race directors took the decision, not Froome?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19647326#p19647326]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Froome opts not to take the yellow jersey for the start:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-he-will-not-wear-the-tour-de-france-yellow-jersey
It seems like the race directors took the decision, not Froome?
Which is odd as they took the decision to make Armstrong wear it in 2005 after Zabriskie retired!
My time pressed research reveals 2 pictures of Merckx on the prologue and stage 1 of the Tour. 1 in yellow, one in a normal team jersey."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Nice short video of the landscape:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xfoo4_paysage-du-jour-etape-6-abbeville-le-havre-tour-de-france-2015_sportContador is the Greatest0 -
It would be good if Froomedog caught the bidon with one hand and took a drink and said "ahh, thanks for that. I was a bit thirsty".
You mean like this...?
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Haha very good link!
Thought that was fake until I read this:
http://www.stereogum.com/1808446/john-coffey-frontman-did-the-most-rock-star-thing-ever-at-pinkpop-festival-yesterday/video/Contador is the Greatest0 -
My post was about Froome not living in the UK or (to the best of my knowledge) never having taken up residency here.This notion of nationality being based only on where you were born dies very quickly when you live abroad...
I was educated about racism many years ago by a young black girl of Windies descent who had returned from holiday with relatives in the Windies and left her family out there for another month or so.
It was January and I asked her why she had come back to a very cold Croydon and her reply was.
"I just wanted to come home to see my mates and there's nothing like being Home"
I had a lot of friends in the Croydon area with a much better Tan than I will ever get.
Racism is not my problem but religion is.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
What?
Racism is not my problem but religion is.
Quite simple, really
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Re: Nibali and his temper tantrum. All I can say is had he thrown it anyone 'proper' british then he would have a fat lip today.
What a bell end. :roll:0 -
So... in other words, "proper" British people can be relied upon to overreact massively to any provocation? I bet that sounds sadly familiar to anyone unfortunate enough to cycle regularly on the roads here...Re: Nibali and his temper tantrum. All I can say is had he thrown it anyone 'proper' british then he would have a fat lip today.
What a bell end. :roll:0 -
I read somewhere that as Martin finished the stage yesterday Froome couldn't officially start in yellow anyway as Martin was only officially out of the race when he failed to sign on for the start. Had Martin not finished then Froome would have rightfully been awarded it yesterday (although I guess he could / would still have not worn it ).0
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What?
Racism is not my problem but religion is.
Quite simple, really
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I really don't know why i'm asking this but how does that relate to the conversation we re having?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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