Garmin Edge 520
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How is a new Garmin sh*t? I love and have loved all of mine.
Edge 500 and Forerunners are now sh*t though of course!
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Not 'a' new Garmin - 'this' new Garmin.
I've got an 810 and it's great. I can't see a foreseeable need to upgrade because they're now creating drivers that cover their upper range of units. It's a solid but of kit.
How is the 520 an upgrade to the 810?
Are you saying the 510 is better than 520 then?0 -
Remember the Edge1000 thread?
Loads of haters that then went out and bought one
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I have gone, phone, 500, 510, 520.
The 510 is MUCH better than the 500, mainly because of Glonass - it's much more accurate, and screen is bigger.
The 520's appeal for me was the detailed mapping - I've asked for some Openstreet maps, but it says I have 2 days to wait?!
If you don't need the extra mapping, I don't see what the 520 does better than the 510, and I prefer the 510's touchscreen.0 -
Not sure I would bother getting a 520 if I had a 510, but I don't use mapping and do not really understand what the 520's mapping is capable of.
My gut instinct is that the 520 will be a better option than the 510 if going from a 500, but I am happy to be wrong about that and get a 510 for the wife.
I assumed the 520 has a bigger/clearer screen than 510, and that it will be a bit more intuitive. The mapping is a bonus.
Have just got a Fenix 2 to replace my old forerunner, and absolutely love it!0 -
I have gone, phone, 500, 510, 520.
The 510 is MUCH better than the 500, mainly because of Glonass - it's much more accurate, and screen is bigger.
The 520's appeal for me was the detailed mapping - I've asked for some Openstreet maps, but it says I have 2 days to wait?!
If you don't need the extra mapping, I don't see what the 520 does better than the 510, and I prefer the 510's touchscreen.
Not tempted to return your 520 and keep the 510?0 -
Just got an email from Wiggle. The bundle is now in stock. Well, minus 1 thats just been bought
It turns out that now Wiggle are blatantly lying to customers and conning them.
- Wiggle sends me an email to say the 520 is in stock
- Wiggles website say +10 in stock
- Wiggle quite happily take my order and bank details.
- Then a parcel arrives today. With half the order,... No 520 inside !
This takes the p*ss. It's misleading and being disceptive to customers at best, blatant theft at worst.
I'm still waiting for Wiggle customer services to get back to me with an explanation.
I was about to post something similar, placed my order 28th and it is still showing as being processed. Not sure if any money has been taken though.
Ordered mine on 28th from Wiggle, took a few days to go through 'processing' but put that down to it being a bank holiday weekend. Was dispatched yesterday and is currently with Royal Mail now, expecting to have it tomorrow.0 -
To summarise this thread for those just joining:
Must have the latest kit! Must have the latest kit! Ah hang on...turns out it's sh*t.
It's not shit at all. Some of the design choices are questionable, but overall I'm very happy with it.
I've had a 510 and an 810, both sent back. The 810 was sent back just because the display was awful. The 510 got sent back because it also had a crappy screen and the 520 was then announced. The 520 screen is now to to a decent standard as in it's crisp and clear. I'm not too bothered about mapping, if I was I would get a 1000.
The 810 is a bit of an oddball now sitting between the 520 and 1000. It does more than the 520 but is a much older unit with an older display. I don't know if we'll see the 810 replaced with an 820 or just dropped as the 1000 now fills that space.0 -
Just got an email from Wiggle. The bundle is now in stock. Well, minus 1 thats just been bought
It turns out that now Wiggle are blatantly lying to customers and conning them.
- Wiggle sends me an email to say the 520 is in stock
- Wiggles website say +10 in stock
- Wiggle quite happily take my order and bank details.
- Then a parcel arrives today. With half the order,... No 520 inside !
This takes the p*ss. It's misleading and being disceptive to customers at best, blatant theft at worst.
I'm still waiting for Wiggle customer services to get back to me with an explanation.
I was about to post something similar, placed my order 28th and it is still showing as being processed. Not sure if any money has been taken though.
I take it all back, mine has been despatched and they have price matched the Hargrove cycles deal so £30 saved
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I have gone, phone, 500, 510, 520.
The 510 is MUCH better than the 500, mainly because of Glonass - it's much more accurate, and screen is bigger.
The 520's appeal for me was the detailed mapping - I've asked for some Openstreet maps, but it says I have 2 days to wait?!
If you don't need the extra mapping, I don't see what the 520 does better than the 510, and I prefer the 510's touchscreen.
Not tempted to return your 520 and keep the 510?
Very much so, yes! Screen size is the same. Is the 520 clearer? Maybe, not sure.0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:The 810 was sent back just because the display was awful.
I have had the 810 for just under a year and there are several issues with it, especially when trying to follow routes but I dont get this cr@p about the screen. I did not buy a bike computer to watch tv or films, i bought the computer as a training device and to display maps.
Admittedly i went from a 500 to the 810 so the display had colour which was a nice change, but the screen has never been an issue for me even though the resolution is low. Occasionally sunglare can make it harder to read for a few seconds than the 500 was but that is only a minor issue.
I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?0 -
Remember the Edge1000 thread?
Loads of haters that then went out and bought one
It's like putting an iPad on your bike and again, the last driver upgrade brought a lot of the worthwhile features of the 1000 to the 810.0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:The 810 was sent back just because the display was awful.
I have had the 810 for just under a year and there are several issues with it, especially when trying to follow routes but I dont get this cr@p about the screen. I did not buy a bike computer to watch tv or films, i bought the computer as a training device and to display maps.
Admittedly i went from a 500 to the 810 so the display had colour which was a nice change, but the screen has never been an issue for me even though the resolution is low. Occasionally sunglare can make it harder to read for a few seconds than the 500 was but that is only a minor issue.
I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?
If my eyesight was such that the 810 screen wasn't perfectly good enough to do its job, then it wouldn't be that that I would worry about when cycling; I'd be far too busy riding into the back of parked cars!
As far as I see it, if an item only seems poor relative to its potential replacement, then the replacement really isn't worth buying. In that case you'd only notice the difference if you were using both at the same time.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Very much so, yes! Screen size is the same. Is the 520 clearer? Maybe, not sure.
The screen is slightly bigger on the 520. 2.36" vs 2.2". As for clearer that's somewhat subjective, but the 520 has 150dpi vs 132dpi on the 510.0 -
I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?
Personal bias plain and simple, I make no apologies. I'm use to iPhone (other smartphones are available with similar spec) screens so to look at the low res 810 I just couldn't get away with it. Whereas the 520 screen looks good to me. 0 -
Chain Reaction just told me their stock arrives 2nd October.0
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Remember the Edge1000 thread?
Loads of haters that then went out and bought one
It's like putting an iPad on your bike and again
Thats a typical hater BS comment lol, and as I said, loads still went out and got one.
I was a little concerned with its size (and ultimately there is of course an upper limit) but it was immediately forgotten once I got it.
I went from a 500 and it really was not an issue. The semi out front mount it comes with works well IMO.
My only gripe is that the display does not fill the screen more. I think the 1010 will either have a bigger display area, be smaller, or both.
No way I would rather have an 810.
The 1000 came with new style sensors, has a much much much better screen, built in maps and looks sexier.
Oh and a better screen.0 -
Enybody still looking to buy, Wiggle have both the 520 bundle and 520 only in stock.Building:
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I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?
Its not really that difficult to understand is it?
If something has a screen that you need to look at, then its better to have one thats easier to see.0 -
I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?
Its not really that difficult to understand is it?
If something has a screen that you need to look at, then its better to have one thats easier to see.
So presumably, when the next Garmin comes out with a higher resolution screen, you'll be on here posting about how crap the 1000s screen is?
Something either does the job satisfactorily or it doesn't. Whether or not something 'better' comes out later doesn't change that. Better is always nice but if the price isn't better as well then, overall, better isn't necessarily better at all!
FWIW, I found the 810 map screen to be a bit irritating when trying to find very small things on it when off the bike. In this case, higher resolution would have been better. On the bike, higher resolution would have been of no benefit to me at all but maybe my glasses prescription is better than others.......Faster than a tent.......0 -
Had the 520 for a week (upgrade from 500). Reactions: screen is a lot better; GPS acquisition is way faster in the city (15-30 seconds, compared to 45s-1m); sensor management vastly improved ... no forgetting to change your bike as on the 500 (a multi-button mashing affair). Bluetooth sync is like magic. Text/call alerts are very handy. These 4 things make it worth the cost of admission.
Hit and miss on strava live segments: it definitely spurred me on to a Richmond Park lap personal best last weekend, but on the whole it doesn't cope well with overlapping segments (it just shows the dart of the first), and SCR aside, racing every segment gets demoralising, especially the longer ones; have turned it off for the commute. Button placements and pressing don't feel as intuitive (and button feel isn't as nice) as on the 500, but will get used to it eventually. Battery life feels way less than the 500, exacerbated by the fact that you plug it in less often due to bluetooth sync.
Would buy again, but similarly not impressed by Evans' behaviour re: pre-orders.0 -
Indeed. At least I have my refund from the Evans order now. I didn't need to return it
But them initially advertising delivery in 3 days then pushing it back one week every week was rather crappy.0 -
I just dont get why people complain about a bike gps having a low resolution :?
Its not really that difficult to understand is it?
If something has a screen that you need to look at, then its better to have one thats easier to see.
So presumably, when the next Garmin comes out with a higher resolution screen, you'll be on here posting about how crap the 1000s screen is?
Something either does the job satisfactorily or it doesn't. Whether or not something 'better' comes out later doesn't change that. Better is always nice but if the price isn't better as well then, overall, better isn't necessarily better at all!
I probably will not be posting about the 1000's screen being cr@p, but then again I have not said the 810's screen is cr@p.
Completely agree that something that does the job well is not affected by a new version coming out.
I have no experience of the 810, but you yourself went on to say the screen is lacking.
I dont agree that price really comes into it though.
Something is either better, or it isn't.
Whether its worth it to the individual is another matter entirely.0 -
Well received my 520 on Thursday and have to admit I hated it. Thought the software felt poor, didn't like the buttons and really missed the touch screen meaning setup was a pain in the @rse!
Had my first ride with it Saturday (145 mile coast to coast, 13,000ft climbing all day epic) and have to say in use the 520 is amazing! Love the new cycle dynamics data (appears I have terrible pedal smoothness) and the live segments are pretty cool. Wasn't so much for chasing koms but alerting me when climbs like Hardknott were starting and how long I had to be in immense pain for.
Also, the battery life, class. End of the ride the other lads' devices were either down to <5% or had already conked it and having to be emergency charged on the road. Checked my battery life 45%. Felt like doing the ride again :-)
Was also nice to get messages through, the one from the Mrs telling me the Chinese had been ordered and would be arriving just as I was getting home spurred me on that last hour :-)0 -
I probably will not be posting about the 1000's screen being cr@p, but then again I have not said the 810's screen is cr@p.
Completely agree that something that does the job well is not affected by a new version coming out.
I have no experience of the 810, but you yourself went on to say the screen is lacking.
I dont agree that price really comes into it though.
Something is either better, or it isn't.
Whether its worth it to the individual is another matter entirely.
The screen is lacking when viewed off the bike. It is a fair criticism of the device though, of course, I might come to the same conclusion about the screen of the 1000.
Your point about the price versus better is really just semantics. But if your budget is limited then buying a more expensive product now impacts your budget later. Not much point buying a pair of Zipps only to realise that the only frame you can now afford to put them on is a Halfords Apollo.
FWIW, I could have chosen a 1000. I didn't because a) it is too large (particularly given the screen size), b) too ugly and c) offered no additional functionality over the 1000 that I needed.
Had Garmin produced an 800 variant with the same resolution screen as the 1000 I would have probably bought that but had budget been a serious consideration the outcome would have been different. Plenty of people on here with very limited budgets so 'better' isn't really better if the price is too high.
520 sounds to me like Garmin have actually for once really spotted what would make an existing product better and supplied it. Base maps for breadcrumb trails is all most people need for navigation and non touch screen is always nice.Faster than a tent.......0 -
I can't get my 520 to show calls and texts from my Iphone 5s. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Also, I haven't done anything about live segments, but occasionally, out on a ride, it goes into Live Segment mode, and tells me to thrash myself to get the KOM....what's that all about?0 -
Also, I haven't done anything about live segments, but occasionally, out on a ride, it goes into Live Segment mode, and tells me to thrash myself to get the KOM....what's that all about?
Sounds like you have "star'd" a segment on Strava. So after you synced the 520, it now looks for that star segment. Everytime you go near this star seg, the 520 will go into the segment mode. To get out of it you can just press the back button (rear right) then the enter button (front right), or de-star that seg on Strava.
On mine, it just uses the fastest on my following list as the virtual partner or my PB, whatever is quicker."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
Used it over the weekend. My first thoughts.
PROS
- Nice compact size.
- Sensors already synced in the factory. Almost bungee to bike and go.
- Clear screen compared to some older Garmins.
- Great with Di2.
- The seg mode can make interesting interval training. I like how the display shows where the start and finish points are and how far along you are on the seg.
- The maps surprised me. I thought they would only be available on higher models.
- Almost the same features as the 1000 for a lot less money.
CONS
- No touch screen.
- I stopped using the seg mode on the second ride. I don't want to "go for it" on every ride and the seg mode did not display data I wanted like speed and cadence.
- All the data fields are the same size... small. On the 800 you could have speed bigger than the others.
- I had difficulty reading some data (di2 gear location) while climbing out the saddle.
- The segment mode page did not display speed and cadence.
- With the map is it possible to zoom and scroll around?
NOT SURE
- You have to select which segs appear, before the ride. Not as "live" as the marketing portrays. Not flexible if you have a change of plan mid ride but then I can see why Garmin did this. It would be a pain in the a if every single seg ( that you're not interested in) kept on appearing on the screen."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
I did my first proper outside ride today. It worked fine except when trying to sync to Garmin connect on my iPhone. It just didn't want to do anything it seems. Until I rebooted both the Garmin and my phone then it worked straight away.
Looks like I'm still going to be tracking on my phone as a backup for a while.0 -
Yes you can zoom in on the map.
I finally managed to get my area of Brittany, a bit of the Alps and Majorca on my 520 with about 15MB to spare.
You press enter, disable AutoZoom, and choose Zoom, it then goes back to the map screen and there is a hard to see Plus and Minus on the left - use these with the up and down buttons. It's not the most intuitive thing in the world.0
