Garmin Edge 520

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  • Sutton_Rider
    Sutton_Rider Posts: 493
    You would think Garmin would get their other junk working as advertised before launching yet more rubbish on the market.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,345
    You would think Garmin would get their other junk working as advertised before launching yet more rubbish on the market.
    You haven't come to terms with computer companies business plans, have you?
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    I just got a 510 yesterday! Thankfully still time to send it back and get the 520 instead. Although the wait is going to be painful now!

    Why send it back? The driver update covers the 510 too so you'll get the same features as the 520 - for free. Does nobody read previous posts anymore?
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Why send it back? The driver update covers the 510 too so you'll get the same features as the 520 - for free. Does nobody read previous posts anymore?

    Better bigger, higher resolution screen, smaller unit size, buttons instead of touch screen, overall better layout from the videos I've seen. MicroUSB charging, basemaps. Why wouldn't I send it back and wait for the 520?
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Just seen a price of £300 from Cycle Surgery - thats not an upgrade of the 500/510 then, more like an 800/810 without routing...
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Just seen a price of £300 from Cycle Surgery - thats not an upgrade of the 500/510 then, more like an 800/810 without routing...

    £299 is the bundle with sensors and HR strap

    £239 on its own

    (same prices at Evans and LeisureLakes)
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    You can buy an 810 with all the sensors/HR for under £300, what does the 520 offer over an 810 with the imminent software update?
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    You can buy an 810 with all the sensors/HR for under £300, what does the 520 offer over an 810 with the imminent software update?

    Better screen is the main thing. The dpi on the 810 is woeful. That said the 810 does offer proper full mapping and routing.

    It's not clear yet if all the 520 features will be on the 810 only the Strava segments have been confirmed.

    Personally I hope they announce an 820.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    You can buy an 810 with all the sensors/HR for under £300, what does the 520 offer over an 810 with the imminent software update?

    I think it will be a nicer but smaller screen, much smaller unit, longer battery life, no touchscreen (dont know if that is a + or -) and no routing, compared to 810.

    Me, I just bought a reconditioned (by Garmin, which means it was probably an unwanted return rather than a repaired unit) 800 with sensor/HR, guaranteed for 12 months for £160 - Cant stand Strava or segments malarky, just makes life too complicated and never wanted any of the features that the 810 offered. Only temptation was for the bigger screen 1000 but decided it wasnt worth it.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    I thought the release was going to be early August but Evans are saying 5th July. Hopefully that is true!
  • "at a glance"

    Does it allow you to follow a course while having power/ speed/ cadence data on the same screen?
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Looks like only 2 data items actually on mps page, just like 800/810. But you can get it to automatically flick between Map and a data page I think.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667


    Well, what is strava for the year ? £40 ? i can spend 50-60 on a night out or a meal for two somewhere.

    You are wasting your time trying to reason with some of the sado's on here.
    New Garmin comes out and there is always an initial backlash rather than just buying and enjoying it.

    Not sure what it is about cycling/this site that encourages such negativity of clearly decent kit.

    Its one thing saying you cannot afford/dont want to spend money something, but quite another to then just slag it off, and a completely different level to gloatingly admit poncing services from those that pay for them........ and then have the gaul to pretend they give the money saved to charity :shock:
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    might be worth buying just to see how it copes with Richmond Park which has more segments than is even remotely needed.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    might be worth buying just to see how it copes with Richmond Park which has more segments than is even remotely needed.

    It will only pick up segments which you have already favourited, and a selection of ones it picks for you.
  • keezx
    keezx Posts: 1,322

    Now before you fry me someone will chip in and say its competitive! Well if you want to be competitive against others then go race and meet people! Or if you want to push yourself do some good old fashioned intervals

    So very true.... never understood why people want to compete with guys drafting at a scooter or wait for a storm in the back.

    Ontopic:
    Still not what I want.
    I want a Edge 500 which can show me a coloured map at command, so I can leave my Etrex at home, and still no bigger then a 500, don't want a large screen/big device.
    It does not have to have any navigating functionality, I can think myself.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Ontopic:
    Still not what I want.
    I want a Edge 500 which can show me a coloured map at command, so I can leave my Etrex at home, and still no bigger then a 500, don't want a large screen/big device.
    It does not have to have any navigating functionality, I can think myself.

    It's bigger than a 500 I grant you but you can put maps on it, the amount of space limits you to just maps of your local area but it can be done.

    Personally I have 1:50000 mapping of the whole of GB on my phone, only problem is it requires me to stop and take a look. Much of the time I need a little rest anyway ;)
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,345
    edited July 2015
    Its one thing saying you cannot afford/dont want to spend money something, but quite another to then just slag it off, and a completely different level to gloatingly admit poncing services from those that pay for them........ and then have the gaul to pretend they give the money saved to charity :shock:
    Clearly aimed at me but without the strength to say so.
    I have stated that I do not want a 520 but I have not slagged it off.
    I have not "ponced" services. Strava offer a free service that I use. When they cease to offer it for free, I will cease to use it.
    Insults I can take. Water off a duck's back but you have zero idea about what I do for charity.
    If you are going to insult me, make it accurate, or at least funny.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807


    Well, what is strava for the year ? £40 ? i can spend 50-60 on a night out or a meal for two somewhere.

    You are wasting your time trying to reason with some of the sado's on here.
    New Garmin comes out and there is always an initial backlash rather than just buying and enjoying it.

    Not sure what it is about cycling/this site that encourages such negativity of clearly decent kit.

    Its one thing saying you cannot afford/dont want to spend money something, but quite another to then just slag it off, and a completely different level to gloatingly admit poncing services from those that pay for them........ and then have the gaul to pretend they give the money saved to charity :shock:

    Says Bike Radar's #1 positive poster.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    edited July 2015
    Its one thing saying you cannot afford/dont want to spend money something, but quite another to then just slag it off, and a completely different level to gloatingly admit poncing services from those that pay for them........ and then have the gaul to pretend they give the money saved to charity :shock:
    Clearly aimed at me but without the strength to say so.
    I have stated that I do not want a 520 but I have not slagged it off.
    I have not "ponced" services. Strava offer a free service that I use. When they cease to offer it for free, I will cease to use it.
    Insults I can take. Water off a duck's back but you have zero idea about what I do for charity.
    If you are going to insult me, make it accurate, or at least funny.

    Guess it was kind of aimed at one of your comments, but it was mainly a generalisation of lots of people so not everything applied to you.

    You are kind of poncing the service anyway (which is no big deal and we all do it with one thing or another), but you definitely are taking a more poncing attitude when you make such comments about people who are paying for it IMO.

    Quite right, I do not know what you do for charity, but am quietly confident you have not set up a DD for £4 or whatever to directly mirror a strava subscription.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667

    Says Bike Radar's #1 positive poster.

    Fair point :wink:
    Maybe I am the Darth Vadar of BR these days, but I used to be a Jedi
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Evans had the shipping date at 5th July. But today changed it to 30th July.
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    My initial thoughts are that the Garmin is great but the Live Strava is reckless.

    It will actively encourage people to go all out through segments which could be dangerous, I have always enjoyed just riding and on returning to see a trophy or two is always nice, I have a mate who rides steady and races segments which I find a little false as he is going balls out then plodding along between the segments.

    Now before you fry me someone will chip in and say its competitive! Well if you want to be competitive against others then go race and meet people! Or if you want to push yourself do some good old fashioned intervals

    Yeah, that would be exactly what your mate is doing...
  • Evans had the shipping date at 5th July. But today changed it to 30th July.

    2016?
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,345
    Its one thing saying you cannot afford/dont want to spend money something, but quite another to then just slag it off, and a completely different level to gloatingly admit poncing services from those that pay for them........ and then have the gaul to pretend they give the money saved to charity :shock:
    Clearly aimed at me but without the strength to say so.
    I have stated that I do not want a 520 but I have not slagged it off.
    I have not "ponced" services. Strava offer a free service that I use. When they cease to offer it for free, I will cease to use it.
    Insults I can take. Water off a duck's back but you have zero idea about what I do for charity.
    If you are going to insult me, make it accurate, or at least funny.

    Guess it was kind of aimed at one of your comments, but it was mainly a generalisation of lots of people so not everything applied to you.

    You are kind of poncing the service anyway (which is no big deal and we all do it with one thing or another), but you definitely are taking a more poncing attitude when you make such comments about people who are paying for it IMO.

    Quite right, I do not know what you do for charity, but am quietly confident you have not set up a DD for £4 or whatever to directly mirror a strava subscription.
    Still not funny.
    I may ponce about from time to time but it will have no connection to Strava.
    Still see no need for a 520.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Mr Dog
    Mr Dog Posts: 643
    My initial thoughts are that the Garmin is great but the Live Strava is reckless.

    It will actively encourage people to go all out through segments which could be dangerous, I have always enjoyed just riding and on returning to see a trophy or two is always nice, I have a mate who rides steady and races segments which I find a little false as he is going balls out then plodding along between the segments.

    Now before you fry me someone will chip in and say its competitive! Well if you want to be competitive against others then go race and meet people! Or if you want to push yourself do some good old fashioned intervals


    Yeah, that would be exactly what your mate is doing...

    Racing is done with a number on your back. Strava is fun and can be used as interval training.. people will use it in different ways... some will act like kids... but most don't take it too seriously.
    Why tidy the house when you can clean your bike?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    edited July 2015
    I may ponce about from time to time but it will have no connection to Strava.
    Still see no need for a 520.

    Don't we all :wink:

    520 is the newest 500 series. Its evolution.
    Would you see a need if the 500\510 did not exist?
    Without the 520 the 500 series ends at 510 doesn't it?
    Surely anyone who has any Garmin must see a need for the 520, as without evolution they would not have the Garmin they have.

    Is there ever a 'need' (other than its evolutionary step) for the newest incarnation of anything when it first comes out?

    Plenty of people feel a need for lots of things they would have happily slagged off (I am not saying you are slagging anything off) when they first came out :roll:

    Need and Want are two different things.
    People do not usually 'Need' the new thing, they want it, but what they often really, really 'Want' is for the new thing to cost what the old thing has been to be discounted to, or for the new thing to be a free upgrade to the old thing they just bought.

    The only 'need' for the new thing is that lifes too short to ride around on crappy bikes, with crappy wheels, crappy groupsets and Garmins you might die before owning.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,345
    I may ponce about from time to time but it will have no connection to Strava.
    Still see no need for a 520.

    Don't we all :wink:

    520 is the newest 500 series. Its evolution.
    Would you see a need if the 500\510 did not exist?
    Without the 520 the 500 series ends at 510 doesn't it?
    Surely anyone who has any Garmin must see a need for the 520, as without evolution they would not have the Garmin they have.

    Is there ever a 'need' (other than its evolutionary step) for the newest incarnation of anything when it first comes out?

    Plenty of people feel a need for lots of things they would have happily slagged off (I am not saying you are slagging anything off) when they first came out :roll:

    Need and Want are too different things.
    People do not 'Need' the new thing, but what they 'Want' is for the new thing to cost what the old thing has been to be discounted to, or for the new thing to be a free upgrade to the old thing they just bought.

    The only 'need' for the new thing is that lifes too short to ride around on crappy bikes, with crappy wheels, crappy groupsets and Garmins you might die before owning.
    Perspective.
    I have decided that my 705 is more than I want, far less need.
    I am going back to something like the Cateyes from days of yore.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I may ponce about from time to time but it will have no connection to Strava.
    Still see no need for a 520.

    Don't we all :wink:

    520 is the newest 500 series. Its evolution.
    Would you see a need if the 500\510 did not exist?
    Without the 520 the 500 series ends at 510 doesn't it?
    Surely anyone who has any Garmin must see a need for the 520, as without evolution they would not have the Garmin they have.

    Is there ever a 'need' (other than its evolutionary step) for the newest incarnation of anything when it first comes out?

    Plenty of people feel a need for lots of things they would have happily slagged off (I am not saying you are slagging anything off) when they first came out :roll:

    Need and Want are too different things.
    People do not 'Need' the new thing, but what they 'Want' is for the new thing to cost what the old thing has been to be discounted to, or for the new thing to be a free upgrade to the old thing they just bought.

    The only 'need' for the new thing is that lifes too short to ride around on crappy bikes, with crappy wheels, crappy groupsets and Garmins you might die before owning.
    Perspective.
    I have decided that my 705 is more than I want, far less need.
    I am going back to something like the Cateyes from days of yore.

    That sounds great to me (705 not Cateye wired hell).

    Personally though I think I would want/need a few things the newer models do, and if I felt that way I would not click on a three titled 'Garmin Edge 520', yet alone comment on one.