No More Porte-a-Cabin
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No arguments about a level playing field during the race, but at least raise the minimum standards ...
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That's not great but at one time they used to billet teams in youth hostels and holiday camps.BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Seems like another unenforceable rule to me.
- No staying in your own house/apartment if the stage happens to finish in your town.
- No spending the night with your partner on rest days.0 -
Seems like another unenforceable rule to me.
- No staying in your own house/apartment if the stage happens to finish in your town.
- No spending the night with your partner on rest days.
You'll know it's silly season if a Sky rider stays in hospital for a night.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
One pro (can't remember who) tweeted on hearing about the new rule that they were sleeping on a mattress on the floor at the Tour de Suisse. It's no wonder teams with the financial means are looking to make their own arrangements. It's a tough enough sport without the additional discomfort and health risks riders face with some of the accommodation they are forced to use. I would walk away if I turned up at a hotel and got offered the room above.
I'd be quite happy to sleep in that - these are young guys and it's a clean room with a bed - if that's the worst example I still say big deal. I suppose they could all stay in 5 star hotels but are they happy to pay for it - the money comes out of the sport somewhere. I agree that it's silly having a rule banning them from finding alternative places to stay so long as the uci know where they can get hold of them but ifhaving to sleep in a budget hotel is the worst of their worries they are lucky.
These are professional sports men competing in an arduous sport where rest and recovery are essential. Imagine trying to get to sleep in such a tiny bed having had a heavy crash during that day's stage and knowing you've got 5 hours in the saddle tomorrow. I've stayed in some poor quality hotels in my time but I've never seen a bed that small.0 -
One pro (can't remember who) tweeted on hearing about the new rule that they were sleeping on a mattress on the floor at the Tour de Suisse. It's no wonder teams with the financial means are looking to make their own arrangements. It's a tough enough sport without the additional discomfort and health risks riders face with some of the accommodation they are forced to use. I would walk away if I turned up at a hotel and got offered the room above.
I'd be quite happy to sleep in that - these are young guys and it's a clean room with a bed - if that's the worst example I still say big deal. I suppose they could all stay in 5 star hotels but are they happy to pay for it - the money comes out of the sport somewhere. I agree that it's silly having a rule banning them from finding alternative places to stay so long as the uci know where they can get hold of them but ifhaving to sleep in a budget hotel is the worst of their worries they are lucky.
These are professional sports men competing in an arduous sport where rest and recovery are essential. Imagine trying to get to sleep in such a tiny bed having had a heavy crash during that day's stage and knowing you've got 5 hours in the saddle tomorrow. I've stayed in some poor quality hotels in my time but I've never seen a bed that small.
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The teams with the biggest budgets already have the means to altitude dope themselves out of sight of those teams who can't afford a volcano. I don't see what's wrong with the governing body trying to bring them back to earth.
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These are professional sports men competing in an arduous sport where rest and recovery are essential. Imagine trying to get to sleep in such a tiny bed having had a heavy crash during that day's stage and knowing you've got 5 hours in the saddle tomorrow. I've stayed in some poor quality hotels in my time but I've never seen a bed that small.
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100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bolloxleft the forum March 20230 -
100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bollox
You see you were advancing a perfectly reasonable argument until your last sentence.. What's the need?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19631113#p19631113]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bollox
You see you were advancing a perfectly reasonable argument until your last sentence.. What's the need?
Britain's premier cycling ambassador could use the lead-in to the greatest show on earth as a catalyst to motivate and inspire. He chooses instead to whip up a completely synthetic row about motorhomes. Like Jaimie Oliver using his platform to campaign against twizzlers. But only for his own kids. Beyond pathetic....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19631113#p19631113]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bollox
You see you were advancing a perfectly reasonable argument until your last sentence.. What's the need?
Britain's premier cycling ambassador could use the lead-in to the greatest show on earth as a catalyst to motivate and inspire. He chooses instead to whip up a completely synthetic row about motorhomes. Like Jaimie Oliver using his platform to campaign against twizzlers. But only for his own kids. Beyond pathetic.
How have Sky whipped up this argument? They used a winnebago, it got banned, end of.
Secondly, Sky's job isn't motivating and inspiring anyone except their own employees and that's purely to further their actual job of winning bike races."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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They would still be paying for the room and using hotel facilities. Just not sleeping in the room. Just the same as teams no longer eat from the hotel menu.100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bollox
And this is only for riders. There's plenty of other people to fill those rooms.Twitter: @RichN950 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19631113#p19631113]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:100% with UCI on this.
Races are big business for hotels in the areas where it goes through... if teams start sleeping in motorhomes in car parks outside town what's the incentive for a town to pay to host a race?
Fuxk Sky and their marginal increments bollox
You see you were advancing a perfectly reasonable argument until your last sentence.. What's the need?
Not really. If all the riders on the race decided to use motorhomes, the hotel rooms they would have used would quickly be filled by fans following the race.0 -
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#FBF to that time I slept on the floor at the TDF.. More of that this year! Good going @UCI_cycling #progress
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^That really is scandalous.
Surely the UCI should be saying 'you've got to use the assigned hotel, but the assigned hotel has to be of a minimum standard'. You can't just stop people doing something and then allow them to be forced into a completely crap alternative.
What is the penalty for not using the hotel? If it's just some swiss francs, I'd be taking the Winnebago every time and pony up rather than put up with that shit.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy0
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Imagine the fuss the press would kick up if the ASO/UCI forced them to use the facilities provided for them and they were given a computer with Windows 95 and a dial up modem and half a dozen pay phones.^That really is scandalous.
Surely the UCI should be saying 'you've got to use the assigned hotel, but the assigned hotel has to be of a minimum standard'. You can't just stop people doing something and then allow them to be forced into a completely crap alternative.Twitter: @RichN950 -
So who pays the bill when a team stays at the UCI designated hotel, the team or the UCI?0
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Organiser specifies the hotels, so them.So who pays the bill when a team stays at the UCI designated hotel, the team or the UCI?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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the simple answer to this is to let the teams book their own hotels but need to inform the UCI where they are well in advance.0
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I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy
Not just that stage there are a few where all the teams are spread out all over the place. I wonder if ASO keep track of how far each team has to travel for their accommodation and tries to even it out over the whole race?0 -
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Not just that stage there are a few where all the teams are spread out all over the place. I wonder if ASO keep track of how far each team has to travel for their accommodation and tries to even it out over the whole race?[/quote]
They do. The teams are also rotated through the different levels of hotels, so one night they might be in a 4 star chateau, the next in a Campanile.0 -
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Not just that stage there are a few where all the teams are spread out all over the place. I wonder if ASO keep track of how far each team has to travel for their accommodation and tries to even it out over the whole race?
They do. The teams are also rotated through the different levels of hotels, so one night they might be in a 4 star chateau, the next in a Campanile.[/quote]
So they rotate by quality of hotel and distance to each stage? My map geekery would love a job checking all that out - although they probably crunch it all in a database.0 -
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Not just that stage there are a few where all the teams are spread out all over the place. I wonder if ASO keep track of how far each team has to travel for their accommodation and tries to even it out over the whole race?
They do. The teams are also rotated through the different levels of hotels, so one night they might be in a 4 star chateau, the next in a Campanile.
So they rotate by quality of hotel and distance to each stage? My map geekery would love a job checking all that out - although they probably crunch it all in a database.[/quote]
I have a friend with a masters in statistics who puts it to use by building the software to determine the NFL's schedule. He told me that Major League Baseball's schedule (with every team playing 162 games) was, until recently, compiled by 2 people by hand!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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the simple answer to this is to let the teams book their own hotels but need to inform the UCI where they are well in advance.
Apart from when the wild cards complain because all the best hotels have been booked by the World Tour teams that knew they were competing months ahead of them0 -
I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy
Stages start very late in the morning, sometimes as late as lunchtime... 90 Km is not a big dealleft the forum March 20230 -
I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy
Stages start very late in the morning, sometimes as late as lunchtime... 90 Km is not a big deal
90k through rural France is a nice morning drive - 90k across a border and along the road linking the two of the largest ports in NWE maybe not so much fun. You are not going to be rushed as it is a noon start - but it is far from ideal.0 -
I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy
Stages start very late in the morning, sometimes as late as lunchtime... 90 Km is not a big deal
90k through rural France is a nice morning drive - 90k across a border and along the road linking the two of the largest ports in NWE maybe not so much fun. You are not going to be rushed as it is a noon start - but it is far from ideal.
What border? In theory but there are no border controls within Schengen area...0 -
I would pay the fine on the night after the day 2 ride into Zeeland and take the motorhome to Antwerp. Just been looking through the road book and Sky are being put up in a Hotel in Flushing in the Netherlands about 90km from the next days start in Antwerp in Belgium. Just what you want for day 3 that ends up on Mur de Huy
Stages start very late in the morning, sometimes as late as lunchtime... 90 Km is not a big deal
90k through rural France is a nice morning drive - 90k across a border and along the road linking the two of the largest ports in NWE maybe not so much fun. You are not going to be rushed as it is a noon start - but it is far from ideal.
The roads from Holland to Antwerp are exceptional. The border is almost invisible now. it's basically the change in speed limitWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Peering through the keyhole of 100 hotel rooms at hourly intervals will at least create plenty of employment opportunities.0
