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It's true that if all immigration restrictions were removed, there would not be any illegal immigration.
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I have taken action on the squirrels in my garden by threatening to release a dog that I am not going to buy.
I don't understand why there are so many squirrels in the garden still. Probably because the people I am selling the house to don't have a dog and the squirrels have got wind of it.
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I think it was dropped in the 1850s and there is not much demand to bring it back.
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I had read that Australia had gonna back on offshore processing as it was proving too expensive, but I might be wrong?
I do think there's a question over the morality of the Rwanda scheme. Early on a lot of the supporters of the scheme didn't understand that the people being sent to Rwanda weren't just getting sent temporarily with the option of moving to the UK if their case was successful.
That's not to say we should be giving free houses to anyone who comes over on an inflatable boat...but that isn't actually what happens anyway.
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Like I said, whether you agree with it is or not is irrelevant. The point was whether they had taken action nor just talked about it.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The criticism "you aren't doing anything - we were doing something" is nonsense when what you were doing was just setting fire to money.
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And what was that action again? How many people got sent to Rwanda?
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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The words 'put in place' are doing a lot of heavy lifting for a scheme under which 0 (zero) asylum seekers were ever removed.
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They had just talked about it
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But it was a plan….
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Good try. You know they put it in place but the GE was called before the flights started.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
See my reply to Pango above.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Was really unlucky timing for the general election, shame for them.
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If I thought the Rwanda scheme was going to work I'd be seething that Rishi called an election he'd never win before the flights could take off.
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🤣 The election they called to get ahead of the summer wave of boat crossings? That they knew they were likely to lose?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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The election they called 🤣
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Sure, Jan
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And?
My point stands...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Much as people would love to avoid the issue of what Labour will now do to prevent or deter, that is the question that matters. Especially as the Rwanda scheme is now history.
In the meantime, the boats will carry on coming, probably in larger numbers given that Labour is seen as a soft touch.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Here, I googled it for you Stevo:
Needs a bit of detail certainly, but seems no worse than pretending to send people to Rwanda.
Clearing the backlog seems so obvious that you'd think the Tories would have considered it.
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Here’s Labour’s plan for secure borders:
1) Crackdown on criminal smuggler gangs facilitating the small boats crossings, with a new Cross-Border Police Unit and deeper security cooperation with Europe to get real-time intelligence.
2) End hotel use, clear the Tory asylum backlog, and speed up returns to safe countries, with more caseworkers and a new Returns and Enforcement Unit
3) Reform resettlement routes to stop people being exploited by gangs.
4) New agreements with France and other countries on returns and family reunion.
5) Tackle humanitarian crises at source helping refugees in their region
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Yes, we should see what the details of their proposed scheme are. It's about time someone did something constructive about it rather than pointlessly pissing money up the wall in a scheme that was never actually designed to work by its creators own admission.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Well done. Nice vague policy statements and a wish list at present.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Initial thoughts on planning reform are that it's pretty timid. It undoes a couple of the stupid things done in the last two years to pacify backbenchers but the system is still fundamentally broken. Removing two footnotes from the NPPF is great for onshore wind farms but not a lot else. Adding back housing targets is great but we weren't meeting them anyway. Re-designating some land as 'grey belt' is a start but also feels like a missed opportunity. And all of it is a bit academic if LA planning departments are still on their knees with everything delayed.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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How is that worse than a 'plan' that cost millions and deported zero people?
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That doesn’t get people talking the same as immigrants being flown to Narnia on a unicorn though so looks like they are doing nothing and waving them in to people who have bought into 8 years of big, false promises.
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Because Labour not Conservative
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What about crimes like murder, mugging, robbery etc? People are going to do those anyway, so are you proposing to legalise crimes like that as well?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So moving on from the past, seems Tony Blair is less than convinced about Labour immigration policy. This looks like a slightly unsubtle hint to Starmer to do something.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
