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What's the TFL structure? They seem to attract plenty of passengers?
There should also be an assessment of the economic benefit of various subsidies like there is with roads. They don't normally make any direct revenue but still get built.
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Wouldn't a government committed to net zero fall in to that category? Not sure if Labour are committed enough or not but surely getting people onto public transport and out of cars needs to be a government policy.
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Agreed
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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The reason why I think it is different is that in some cases (such as much of London) public transport is seen not as a choice, but as a service that people expect to receive. Also, the boss tends to get elected primarily on his/her public transport views whereas I doubt Labour's view on trains will swing the polls much.
Some trains such as commuter trains do fall into the same category, but a lot of trains are competing directly with cars and I think the private sector is much better at this.
For example, a day return to Milton Keynes from London is something like £16 on either train company or £65 if you want the option of both. I find it irritating that you need to pick a company and no doubt under a nationalised system such things would disappear; however, there is also no way that a return to Milton Keynes will be available for £16.
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If passenger numbers fall, does it come straight out of train operating company profits or do they get bailed out/compensated in some way?
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I have not found a train that can compete with cars when it comes to multiple passengers, with the exception being travel to London (and even then, it's not clear cut).
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Most fares are already regulated by central government.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I'm sure some of you are doing that in the Tory hating thread, no point duplicating the effort. Are you to deflect from Labour issues?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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How do you know that she owes nothing? And whether she had fiked a tax return disclosing the sale and the calculation to show the amount due or not due? Even if she did owe nothing, if she didn't make the appropriate filing in her tax return then that in itself is a breach of her tax obligations.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
How does anyone else know what she has or hasn't done? The whole thing seems to be based on accusations made by people who can't legitimately have that information.
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As I've said a few times, that's what the police investigation is meant to do, given that she has been less than forthcoming in public.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
What are you expecting the result of the police investigation to be, if they conclude she has likely committed an offence?
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None of us know either way. You've made the accusations but can't back them up. The Times have reported one plausible explanation as to why CGT would not be due on the sale of her first property. A number of journalists have been working on this for weeks and haven't turned up anything so we're not really any further forward. Do let us know when you have anything new.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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But why is there even an investigation if it is all based on rumours? If it is based on more than rumours then there should also be an investigation into how someone's confidential finances have become public knowledge. Do you think if this had been the exact same situation and Rayner was a normal member of the public there would be any kind of police investigation? If not do you therefore think it is reasomnable for there to be one in this instance?
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The maximum fare is regulated. I don't think there is a min fare hence my example.
Maybe a better way to look at it is if you are paying the maximum fare you are using a service whereas anything less than maximum you are part of a free market.
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In fairness, you weren't even aware of the friends and family card. One adult and one child is cheaper than one adult.
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Do we think a national rail network should cover its own cost or should it be part of the country's efforts to reduce emissions and pollution?
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TBH, I don't accept that cards that you need to apply for a week in advance counts.
If it's to be competitive, it needs to be available as a ticket.
Nor do they advertise this stuff - I am on trains all the bloody time. If I don't know, how will anyone else. They don't offer it on the ticket terminals.
Just had a look. Costs £30. Ridiculous.
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It's just an annual card - if you think you'll travel by train as a family group a few times a year it is probably worth getting one.
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You can buy it online instantly. It is advertised. I have the three year version.
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Or once if you are going far enough which is not very far. If the adult fare is £56.25 then one adult and one child will be £54.38 with a friends and family card and £84.38 without. Breakeven is at even lower rates with more adults or children.
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IIRC, there's not a single national rail network anywhere that makes a profit. But as roads aren't built/maintained on a for-profit basis, I don't think that's unreasonable.
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A spot of Omerta in the Rayner clan...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I wouldn't give some random Telgraph hack any information action about my living arrangements either, would you?
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If he hadn't been living at her house (which would have helped get her off the hook) then he could have just said that. But he didn't for some reason...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Each to their own Brian :)
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Or he could tell them to piss off and mind their own business. Which is the sensible response
Telling a telegraph journalist something won't make a bit of difference either way, if the police are investigating, they will decide.
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