BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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I guess we could always go electric at some point. Plenty of room for solar panels as well."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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That just adds to Rick's grievances about living in the sticks.Pross said:
I don't think that's UK specific to be honest. Lots of countries will rely on propane tanks or oil tanks in rural areas.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
if the gas pipes can't reach your house you're too far out.pblakeney said:
That just adds to Rick's grievances about living in the sticks.Pross said:
I don't think that's UK specific to be honest. Lots of countries will rely on propane tanks or oil tanks in rural areas.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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No shortages of fish at least in the USA then.0 -
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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Pay to keep the consumer protected to some level and then when they are weighing up those more expensive but secure engineering solutions remember that time they had to pay out for all that gas. They will be paying a couple of fertiliser companies to start productions soon enough or accept there is no CO2 which is used for a lot of food processing.kingstongraham said:
But what should they do now?john80 said:
It doesn't bit it might help in future. Guess what infrastructure is not like buying Chinese toys and peddling them in a shop.kingstongraham said:
How does that happen before this winter?john80 said:You guys are really getting your tinfoil hats on the go. The real answer to this problem is for the UK to go down a route of having some energy and food security and reversing some of the globalisation agenda if you can' handle some rough patches.
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How far to the nearest Waitrose?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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We replaced a oil boiler and tank a few years ago like for like. There is a tank gauge so you know where you are with quantity and I have never had to wait more than say 7 days for a fill. It is a pretty cheap way to heat a house and if serviced yearly is pretty reliable for say the 10 year boiler life. In rural places with no gas it is a no brainer in terms of cost. The only thing that could possibly beat it is if you can bring your probably old house up to modern regs for both air changes and insulation and have room to install substantial solar then a air source heat pump might work.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, I have never heard so much whining from people about oil fired houses.surrey_commuter said:
not so much the faff as the cost!!!! I would ask to see a few years delivery receiptsrick_chasey said:
Oh mate, don't do it! I couldn't tell you how long I've listened to people whine about how much faff that is.Stevo_666 said:
Funnily enough, the house we're buying has oil fired central heating and no gasbriantrumpet said:I'm just waiting for Stevo to say that he's got plenty of gas for his boiler.
(house buying attempt #2 after the last one fell through).
Christ alive. The regular days off to take delivery. The general maintenance. Running out of oil before the season is over. Delays in oil delivery. My favourite, the "my house is so big it's so much to heat. Oi, can you do that work so I can deliver it to the client and charge the next fee which i get 50% off and you none".
Honestly Stevo, don't do it.0 -
Utter nonsense. You do spout some ignorant townie sh!te. Presumably to get a rise.rick_chasey said:
if the gas pipes can't reach your house you're too far out.pblakeney said:
That just adds to Rick's grievances about living in the sticks.Pross said:
I don't think that's UK specific to be honest. Lots of countries will rely on propane tanks or oil tanks in rural areas.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
Our village is 1,000 years old, has 250+ houses in it, has a main road pass through it, and the nearest gas main is 3 miles away.
I think you'll find the village was around and well populated a long time before gas was used to heat homes.0 -
So I used to live near a Waitrose and it is good for certain things, but I would advise against using it as your one-stop-shop.surrey_commuter said:
How far to the nearest Waitrose?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
So Waitrose strengths are really around choice and variety. If there's a more unusual ingredient you need, or you want some really high end things (especially condiments & accompaniments , regional specialities, etc etc) then Waitrose is a great shop. It will have the majority if what you're looking for, in my experience anyway. Their wine selection is also good, especially for that £15-30 range, and it's THE supermarket to go to if you want good quality spirits.
It's weakness is in the basic stuff, which is the same but priced materially higher. This extends to their fresh food. I happen to know for a particular fruit they use the same farms and suppliers as lidl, but put their own packaging on it and charge 2.5x the price.
Their meat is exceptionally expensive and not from a noticeably better source - you're better off going to a premium butcher, as it won't cost more but you'll know where you're getting it from.1 -
In future news, The government will be banning gas boilers.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I don't think they're gonna be replacing them with oil fires. They will be hooked up to another piping system.pblakeney said:
In future news, The government will be banning gas boilers.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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I'm assuming you are basing this on a sample size of one - Netherlands. Sometimes you need to get out a bit more.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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It seems fairly affluent where we're moving to.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Germany is the same.TheBigBean said:
I'm assuming you are basing this on a sample size of one - Netherlands. Sometimes you need to get out a bit more.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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It isn't. 25% are heated with oil.rick_chasey said:
Germany is the same.TheBigBean said:
I'm assuming you are basing this on a sample size of one - Netherlands. Sometimes you need to get out a bit more.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
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Ha seriously? I am very surprised. I have been in the sticks there (albeit west germany) and they all have gas.TheBigBean said:
It isn't. 25% are heated with oil.rick_chasey said:
Germany is the same.TheBigBean said:
I'm assuming you are basing this on a sample size of one - Netherlands. Sometimes you need to get out a bit more.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
Is it an East German thing?0 -
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hang on, are you saying 25% of people have oil fires in their houses and take delivery every year of fuel oil?0
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Have you every spent any time outside of an urban area Rick, because your comments would suggest you haven't, or certainly not for long enough to notice how utilities are supplied.rick_chasey said:
Germany is the same.TheBigBean said:
I'm assuming you are basing this on a sample size of one - Netherlands. Sometimes you need to get out a bit more.rick_chasey said:
Not the entire world, the rich world.TheBigBean said:
You think the entire world is hooked up to a gas grid?rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
You'll be telling us every house is on mains water and mains drainage next.0 -
Gonna be fun when everyone has to switch to heat pumps or hydrogen-ready boilers.rick_chasey said:
I don't think they're gonna be replacing them with oil fires. They will be hooked up to another piping system.pblakeney said:
In future news, The government will be banning gas boilers.rick_chasey said:
Honestly, the state of this place. Not even gas supplies to houses.Pross said:My sister has oil heating (out in the sticks with no gas supply). The price fluctuations are huge. I think you can be quite savvy and buy your supplies when rates are lower even if you don't get it delivered at that time but it is still very volatile.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
New York is communist?ddraver said:One assumes the district heating is former communist
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I am unaware of any oil distribution systems in a western world that would pump or gravity feed oil to your house boiler. There is good reason for this.rick_chasey said:hang on, are you saying 25% of people have oil fires in their houses and take delivery every year of fuel oil?
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What I mean is is the chart referring to house fuel oil like what Stevo refers to or power stations which burn oil?john80 said:
I am unaware of any oil distribution systems in a western world that would pump or gravity feed oil to your house boiler. There is good reason for this.rick_chasey said:hang on, are you saying 25% of people have oil fires in their houses and take delivery every year of fuel oil?
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Full of lefty liberal marxist snowflakes isnt it?TheBigBean said:
New York is communist?ddraver said:One assumes the district heating is former communist
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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85% of the UK has access to the gas grid whereas the US is more like 50%. The UK is doing well in the rich league table. Some people might think it is related to population density and access to gas, but clearly they would be wrong.0
