BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Fair but in this case the supplier of the fridge was solely blaming Brexit.elbowloh said:
Which is what everyone else has been saying.skyblueamateur said:
TBF I am definitely not a Brexiteer and remain resolute it's a sh1te idea but the container crisis from the Far East and the spiralling costs of freight from China are a much bigger issue in the grand scheme of things. It's leading to massive shortages and spiralling costs on products produced there.rjsterry said:
Truly a mystery how so many have developed the same issues since the beginning of 2020.Stevo_666 said:
Unlikely. I think a lot of companies are using Brexcuse as a convenient cover for other issues.TheBigBean said:
You should name the company. Sounds like pretty poor form. Makes me glad I bought ours separately.rick_chasey said:Ah lovely.
Can't deliver *any fridge that fits* for a month.
So I will be having to find my own.
Really pleased they told me that after they ripped the other one out.
Is a fridge crisis related to Brexit though?
40' HQ containers are costing 5 times the price they were in 2019 and can take 10-12 weeks as opposed to 4-6.
Raw material costs are also a consideration and Covid related delays on the manufacturers in China.
Where I feel Stevo lets himself down a little is that he fully understands this but as he's on the windup will never acknowledge any downsides to Brexit.
There is definitely Brexit related stress on the economy in certain industries and it will lead to higher costs for consumers as well.
It's a perfect censored storm where Brexit is a contributing factor but not the sole factor.0 -
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I know mate and I wasn't putting this on you. Some companies are using it as an easy get out and soundbite to more complicated supply chain issues.rick_chasey said:I didn't write the email that I was sent - I thought it notable they mentioned it specifically.
May I just add again that I think Brexit is a thoroughly sh1te idea but feel obliged to be balanced.0 -
Clearly. The bit that is entirely within our control is the refusal to do anything to try to mitigate these issues. Instead they seem intent on making them worse.skyblueamateur said:
TBF I am definitely not a Brexiteer and remain resolute it's a sh1te idea but the container crisis from the Far East and the spiralling costs of freight from China are a much bigger issue in the grand scheme of things. It's leading to massive shortages and spiralling costs on products produced there.rjsterry said:
Truly a mystery how so many have developed the same issues since the beginning of 2020.Stevo_666 said:
Unlikely. I think a lot of companies are using Brexcuse as a convenient cover for other issues.TheBigBean said:
You should name the company. Sounds like pretty poor form. Makes me glad I bought ours separately.rick_chasey said:Ah lovely.
Can't deliver *any fridge that fits* for a month.
So I will be having to find my own.
Really pleased they told me that after they ripped the other one out.
Is a fridge crisis related to Brexit though?
40' HQ containers are costing 5 times the price they were in 2019 and can take 10-12 weeks as opposed to 4-6.
Raw material costs are also a consideration and Covid related delays on the manufacturers in China.
Where I feel Stevo lets himself down a little is that he fully understands this but as he's on the windup will never acknowledge any downsides to Brexit.
There is definitely Brexit related stress on the economy in certain industries and it will lead to higher costs for consumers as well.
It's a perfect censored storm where Brexit is a contributing factor but not the sole factor.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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They said Brexit and Covid to be fair.skyblueamateur said:
Fair but in this case the supplier of the fridge was solely blaming Brexit.elbowloh said:
Which is what everyone else has been saying.skyblueamateur said:
TBF I am definitely not a Brexiteer and remain resolute it's a sh1te idea but the container crisis from the Far East and the spiralling costs of freight from China are a much bigger issue in the grand scheme of things. It's leading to massive shortages and spiralling costs on products produced there.rjsterry said:
Truly a mystery how so many have developed the same issues since the beginning of 2020.Stevo_666 said:
Unlikely. I think a lot of companies are using Brexcuse as a convenient cover for other issues.TheBigBean said:
You should name the company. Sounds like pretty poor form. Makes me glad I bought ours separately.rick_chasey said:Ah lovely.
Can't deliver *any fridge that fits* for a month.
So I will be having to find my own.
Really pleased they told me that after they ripped the other one out.
Is a fridge crisis related to Brexit though?
40' HQ containers are costing 5 times the price they were in 2019 and can take 10-12 weeks as opposed to 4-6.
Raw material costs are also a consideration and Covid related delays on the manufacturers in China.
Where I feel Stevo lets himself down a little is that he fully understands this but as he's on the windup will never acknowledge any downsides to Brexit.
There is definitely Brexit related stress on the economy in certain industries and it will lead to higher costs for consumers as well.
It's a perfect censored storm where Brexit is a contributing factor but not the sole factor.
Anyway cool it guys, it's just a fridge...- Genesis Croix de Fer
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So you go to the trouble of posting an e-mail while crying you're going to be without a fridge in your new kitchen and you talk about the reaction of others?rick_chasey said:The reaction emails like that get on here is remarkable, haha.
I wasn't even on the windup just trying to be objective.
Anyway I'll leave it there and get myself a nice, cool, chilled beer from the fridge......0 -
I guess I figured some people would have sympathy that I've been shafted by the kitchen firm and will be without a fridge for a while, which isn't much fun with a toddler, rather than being a penis about it, but perhaps I overestimated, judging by this particular post.skyblueamateur said:
So you go to the trouble of posting an e-mail while crying you're going to be without a fridge in your new kitchen and you talk about the reaction of others?rick_chasey said:The reaction emails like that get on here is remarkable, haha.
I wasn't even on the windup just trying to be objective.
Anyway I'll leave it there and get myself a nice, cool, chilled beer from the fridge......
What I really meant was how remarkable it was that as soon as Brexit is mentioned people start double guessing whether the firm is lying about it or if that really is the *real reason*, which no-one seems to do with any other topic.0 -
I do have sympathy and I hope you get it resolved quickly.rick_chasey said:
I guess I figured some people would have sympathy that I've been shafted by the kitchen firm and will be without a fridge for a while, which isn't much fun with a toddler, rather than being a penis about it, but perhaps I overestimated, judging by this particular post.skyblueamateur said:
So you go to the trouble of posting an e-mail while crying you're going to be without a fridge in your new kitchen and you talk about the reaction of others?rick_chasey said:The reaction emails like that get on here is remarkable, haha.
I wasn't even on the windup just trying to be objective.
Anyway I'll leave it there and get myself a nice, cool, chilled beer from the fridge......
What I really meant was how remarkable it was that as soon as Brexit is mentioned people start double guessing whether the firm is lying about it or if that really is the *real reason*, which no-one seems to do with any other topic.
As usual though you were the one who flippantly disregard anyone else's argument, write a p1ssy reply and then try and take the moral high ground.
Stop with the Martyr complex.3 -
In all seriousness I would ask them to elaborate why they have left you without a fridge for months and would want more then 'Brexit' related issues.
If you could divulge the brand of fridge you were looking at then you can find out where they would be manufactured.
I could understand a week or two delay if coming from Europe but months doesn't seem feasible.0 -
Trying to remember the context of Conservative ministers boasting about being the biggest procurer of fridges in the world
So much stupid has passed under the bridge“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
It was Hancock (of course it was lol)
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It's because there's no prospect of it coming for months. A brexit delay would be a matter of weeks, because the truck is delayed or the paperwork takes longer. Unless they have stopped supplying the UK completely which seems unlikely for a big appliance brand.rick_chasey said:
I guess I figured some people would have sympathy that I've been shafted by the kitchen firm and will be without a fridge for a while, which isn't much fun with a toddler, rather than being a penis about it, but perhaps I overestimated, judging by this particular post.skyblueamateur said:
So you go to the trouble of posting an e-mail while crying you're going to be without a fridge in your new kitchen and you talk about the reaction of others?rick_chasey said:The reaction emails like that get on here is remarkable, haha.
I wasn't even on the windup just trying to be objective.
Anyway I'll leave it there and get myself a nice, cool, chilled beer from the fridge......
What I really meant was how remarkable it was that as soon as Brexit is mentioned people start double guessing whether the firm is lying about it or if that really is the *real reason*, which no-one seems to do with any other topic.
It feels like Brexit is probably the icing on the cake of global increased demand and reduced availability due to factory shutdowns and global shipping problems.
Practically, I'd try to make do with the existing one sat in the kitchen (or whichever room has space) for a few months until stock comes through. Otherwise you'll always think you haven't got what you want. We did this when ours took a few weeks to arrive a couple of years ago (and it is a smeg, but not a retro one!).1 -
On the positive news, wetherspoons have a shortage of carling, coors and bud light, due to lack of truck drivers - which will save everyone from tasteless beer.1
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I'm sure this is one Brexit related upside we can all agree with.kingstongraham said:On the positive news, wetherspoons have a shortage of carling, coors and bud light, due to lack of truck drivers - which will save everyone from tasteless beer.
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So, Matt Hancock gazumped Rick and has his fridge (along with many other people's)?0
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Might be worth checking the conservative party ebay account, could be some bargains to be had.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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More likely to be siphoned off through the barman at Hancock's locals ebay accountpangolin said:Might be worth checking the conservative party ebay account, could be some bargains to be had.
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We used it. Quite handy.rjsterry said:
Truly a mystery how so many have developed the same issues since the beginning of 2020.Stevo_666 said:
Unlikely. I think a lot of companies are using Brexcuse as a convenient cover for other issues.TheBigBean said:
You should name the company. Sounds like pretty poor form. Makes me glad I bought ours separately.rick_chasey said:Ah lovely.
Can't deliver *any fridge that fits* for a month.
So I will be having to find my own.
Really pleased they told me that after they ripped the other one out.
Is a fridge crisis related to Brexit though?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
That's a pretty good assessment, although you may need to show me where I said that.skyblueamateur said:
TBF I am definitely not a Brexiteer and remain resolute it's a sh1te idea but the container crisis from the Far East and the spiralling costs of freight from China are a much bigger issue in the grand scheme of things. It's leading to massive shortages and spiralling costs on products produced there.rjsterry said:
Truly a mystery how so many have developed the same issues since the beginning of 2020.Stevo_666 said:
Unlikely. I think a lot of companies are using Brexcuse as a convenient cover for other issues.TheBigBean said:
You should name the company. Sounds like pretty poor form. Makes me glad I bought ours separately.rick_chasey said:Ah lovely.
Can't deliver *any fridge that fits* for a month.
So I will be having to find my own.
Really pleased they told me that after they ripped the other one out.
Is a fridge crisis related to Brexit though?
40' HQ containers are costing 5 times the price they were in 2019 and can take 10-12 weeks as opposed to 4-6.
Raw material costs are also a consideration and Covid related delays on the manufacturers in China.
Where I feel Stevo lets himself down a little is that he fully understands this but as he's on the windup will never acknowledge any downsides to Brexit.
There is definitely Brexit related stress on the economy in certain industries and it will lead to higher costs for consumers as well.
It's a perfect censored storm where Brexit is a contributing factor but not the sole factor.
In the end, this thread is all about some people trying to blame as much as they can on Brexit (Ricks fridge being the latest amusing example), so it needs a bit of balance, as Brexit is not the new Wiggle in reality."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
How bout trying to find out the actual truth rather than just rubbishing anyone else's take because you think that's balence?
Given worldwide supply chains were always going to be up schits creek with the pandemic, not entertaining the idea of a further extension of the transition period seems frankly idiotic.
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When I said something similar about Nandos, you were quick to point out that it wasn't obligatory to eat there.kingstongraham said:On the positive news, wetherspoons have a shortage of carling, coors and bud light, due to lack of truck drivers - which will save everyone from tasteless beer.
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So we have an economy based around just in time delivery from other countries and no domestic resilience in the manufacturing sector. Maybe we should be looking at the UK manufacturing sector rather than thinking the solution is less Brexit maybe it is for us to become more independent. Rick's fridge does not need to be made in China and this is the point a large amount of you miss.0
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Bad brexit take alert.john80 said:So we have an economy based around just in time delivery from other countries and no domestic resilience in the manufacturing sector. Maybe we should be looking at the UK manufacturing sector rather than thinking the solution is less Brexit maybe it is for us to become more independent. Rick's fridge does not need to be made in China and this is the point a large amount of you miss.
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It's true, nobody is forced to drink terrible beer either.TheBigBean said:
When I said something similar about Nandos, you were quick to point out that it wasn't obligatory to eat there.kingstongraham said:On the positive news, wetherspoons have a shortage of carling, coors and bud light, due to lack of truck drivers - which will save everyone from tasteless beer.
Perhaps Tim Wetherspoons could put out a leaflet explaining why they can't choose it either.0 -
https://www.aei.org/economics/the-economic-self-harm-of-autarky-are-we-really-talking-about-america-making-everything-it-needs-in-america/john80 said:So we have an economy based around just in time delivery from other countries and no domestic resilience in the manufacturing sector. Maybe we should be looking at the UK manufacturing sector rather than thinking the solution is less Brexit maybe it is for us to become more independent. Rick's fridge does not need to be made in China and this is the point a large amount of you miss.
You are following the logic of various North Korean dictators. How rich are North Koreans right now?0 -
There are reasons things are the way they are. Bring back British manufacturing? I'd say that's optimistic, at a level that maybe I could win the 2022 Tour. 🤣john80 said:So we have an economy based around just in time delivery from other countries and no domestic resilience in the manufacturing sector. Maybe we should be looking at the UK manufacturing sector rather than thinking the solution is less Brexit maybe it is for us to become more independent. Rick's fridge does not need to be made in China and this is the point a large amount of you miss.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
As mentioned upthread and by you, the bigger issues are around global supply chain issues in my view. I think you've just answered your own question.Jezyboy said:How bout trying to find out the actual truth rather than just rubbishing anyone else's take because you think that's balence?
Given worldwide supply chains were always going to be up schits creek with the pandemic, not entertaining the idea of a further extension of the transition period seems frankly idiotic.
Any discussions around extensions are hypothetical now anyway."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think you should take a step back and consider your choices. You want a fridge from around the world. That is fraught with procurement risk which you are now suffering. Increased container costs and lead time are not Brexit related. Having a coherent industrial strategy is not akin to becoming North Korea bit yeah you keep banging the drum.rick_chasey said:
https://www.aei.org/economics/the-economic-self-harm-of-autarky-are-we-really-talking-about-america-making-everything-it-needs-in-america/john80 said:So we have an economy based around just in time delivery from other countries and no domestic resilience in the manufacturing sector. Maybe we should be looking at the UK manufacturing sector rather than thinking the solution is less Brexit maybe it is for us to become more independent. Rick's fridge does not need to be made in China and this is the point a large amount of you miss.
You are following the logic of various North Korean dictators. How rich are North Koreans right now?0
