BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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i think the press are gradually starting to find their feet again with regard to holding the government to account but I still can't recall bare faced lying being so acceptable as it remains.rjsterry said:
I think there are signs of the tide turning on that front.ddraver said:
A feeling things are at least moving in the right direction...rjsterry said:I'm still not clear what is bad enough to leave the UK, that isn't just differently messed up elsewhere.
Obviously a very personal subjective thing, so genuinely asking rather than rhetorically.
I think it's a long way to go.0 -
People are generally friendlier and happier. No pretensions. Happier to enjoy life than show off wealth. Less congestion. Slower pace of life. Better scenery.rjsterry said:I'm still not clear what is bad enough to leave the UK, that isn't just differently messed up elsewhere.
Obviously a very personal subjective thing, so genuinely asking rather than rhetorically.
What's bad here? It is the opposite.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Honest question have you ever lived outside of the UK?rjsterry said:I'm still not clear what is bad enough to leave the UK, that isn't just differently messed up elsewhere.
Obviously a very personal subjective thing, so genuinely asking rather than rhetorically.
It's not just about "quality of schools" etc. It's how you feel when you're there.0 -
Only very briefly, but have several friends and relatives dotted around. They generally seem to report slightly different versions of the same problems we have. Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years. Friends who moved to Denmark have had difficulties with schools for their two children and oh my word the enthusiasm with which the Danes like to tell off complete strangers for the most minor infringement like standing on the wrong bit of pavement. Cousin's family in Belgium have suffered from that country's poor response to Covid. Brother lived in Bologna for a while and couldn't stand the state of politics there.rick_chasey said:
Honest question have you ever lived outside of the UK?rjsterry said:I'm still not clear what is bad enough to leave the UK, that isn't just differently messed up elsewhere.
Obviously a very personal subjective thing, so genuinely asking rather than rhetorically.
It's not just about "quality of schools" etc. It's how you feel when you're there.
Obviously that's a very small sample, and I'm not suggesting there isn't plenty of room for improvement here. The only place I've felt as comfortable as home is Norway.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
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Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.0 -
He lives in Victoria. The problem with most of these plots is the lack of decent transport connections, let alone mains services.TheBigBean said:
BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
We ended up in these 4 or 5 times when we were out there...rjsterry said:
He lives in Victoria. The problem with most of these plots is the lack of decent transport connections, let alone mains services.TheBigBean said:
BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.
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Victoria isn't really representative of the rest of Canada or even BC. It's a popular place for Brits to move to though.rjsterry said:
He lives in Victoria. The problem with most of these plots is the lack of decent transport connections, let alone mains services.TheBigBean said:
BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.
Transport to most Canadians is their truck.
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We turned up on Victoria day and it was full of high-school kids in marching bands or cheerleading squads parading around and doing cartwheels everywhere, even when they weren't performing.TheBigBean said:
Victoria isn't really representative of the rest of Canada or even BC. It's a popular place for Brits to move to though.rjsterry said:
He lives in Victoria. The problem with most of these plots is the lack of decent transport connections, let alone mains services.TheBigBean said:
BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.
Transport to most Canadians is their truck.
Also meant the car-hire place that we booked our car from was shut...0 -
This is true. Unless you live in a city or commuter belt you will need a car.TheBigBean said:
Victoria isn't really representative of the rest of Canada or even BC. It's a popular place for Brits to move to though.rjsterry said:
He lives in Victoria. The problem with most of these plots is the lack of decent transport connections, let alone mains services.TheBigBean said:
BC is a big place, but I could believe that about Vancouver, Victoria and their surroundings.rjsterry said:
Oh, and the availability of affordable property in BC seems to be if anything worse than London.TheBigBean said:
Took a friend of mine ages to be landed in Canada. Lots of frustration. At one point, she wanted to send them a news clipping from the local newspaper in which they claimed her as their own.rjsterry said:
Brother has been mired in the Canadian equivalent of Home Office bureaucracy for the last two years.
In other places you can still buy "lots" and have a completely new place built in a style devoid of any architectural interest.
Transport to most Canadians is their truck.
Quite possibly with off road capabilities.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
The 'grass is always greener' syndrome in action...rjsterry said:Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
A lot of it is just about what societies prioritise in life and that changes from place to place.rjsterry said:Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.
There are places where you feel you're swimming against the tide in every day life - general social interactions etc - and places where you feel you're swimming with the tide.0 -
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Of course. I was trying to dig into what those might be. I've previously been struck by the difference between Rick's description of living in Fulham and my experience living just the other side of the Thames at around the same time.ddraver said:
Part of the choice entails choosing somewhere with challenges that bother you less...rjsterry said:Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
It's about swimming against the tide. That must help.rjsterry said:
Of course. I was trying to dig into what those might be. I've previously been struck by the difference between Rick's description of living in Fulham and my experience living just the other side of the Thames at around the same time.ddraver said:
Part of the choice entails choosing somewhere with challenges that bother you less...rjsterry said:Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.
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In the Thames? 😉TheBigBean said:
It's about swimming against the tide. That must help.rjsterry said:
Of course. I was trying to dig into what those might be. I've previously been struck by the difference between Rick's description of living in Fulham and my experience living just the other side of the Thames at around the same time.ddraver said:
Part of the choice entails choosing somewhere with challenges that bother you less...rjsterry said:Sure. We seem to have veered somewhat from my original point, which was that other places are not without their own difficulties.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Ireland trade figures
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It’s almost like an economic unification of Irelandtailwindhome said:Ireland trade figures
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And so it begins, EE have announced that they're bringing in roaming charges for new and upgrading customers from the 1st Jan 2021.
There's a benefit right there, our mobile phone companies can start charging exorbitant rates again when we go on holiday, yay!0 -
No, EE are starting with a flat £2 per day to use your own allowance.ddraver said:Obviously I'm with you in spirit, but doesn't it kick on over 25GB/month?
Twenty.Five.Giga.Bytes???
I don't think I got close to that last year when I streamed pretty much the whole tour on GCN!
£2 a day doesn't seem like much, but £14 over a week's holiday to use what you're already paying for. Plus, i imagine it's just the start. Get customers used to paying £2 per day, then it'll go up and up.0 -
I can remember what roaming charges used to be like. Not exact figures but you could get hit with a 3 figure bill on your return.
And that was just calls, texts and Google searches. No streaming.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
elbowloh said:
No, EE are starting with a flat £2 per day to use your own allowance.ddraver said:Obviously I'm with you in spirit, but doesn't it kick on over 25GB/month?
Twenty.Five.Giga.Bytes???
I don't think I got close to that last year when I streamed pretty much the whole tour on GCN!
£2 a day doesn't seem like much, but £14 over a week's holiday to use what you're already paying for. Plus, i imagine it's just the start. Get customers used to paying £2 per day, then it'll go up and up.
We ought to take bets on how long the others who said they wouldn't reintroduce roaming charges take to come up with imperative reasons why they now need to do so.
Still, it's another #brexitwin - easy money for the mobile phone operators, without having to raise a finger.... well, other than to their customers.0 -
With any luck the UK regulator will do its job.0
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Weird, I can't find a mention of the re-imposition of roaming charges on the Telegraph front page...0
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I wouldn't be surprised next if UK companies suddenly find a pressing need to charge differential rates for using credit rather than debit cards, as they "need to invest in their network" or something. Bit by bit we'll find all the ways the nasty bureaucratic EU made our lives a bit better... oh, hang on, I've forgotten the narrative... what was it?
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2017/07/credit-debit-card-fees-to-be-banned/0
