BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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I have been. For years. It's just an extension of his HIGNFY with greater consequence.briantrumpet said:TheBigBean said:Boris says no to resuming talks.
I'm starting to think that we should treat what Johnson says like we treat what Trump says.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There was quite a lot of polling done prior to and after the referendum looking to define why people voted. So it is not much or a projection. A lot of it would not be met by your proposals but you must be right and everyone else is wrong. The great and principled Chasey.rick_chasey said:
I called you out on this nonsense statement and gave you an clear and obvious example illustrating why it was nonsense.john80 said:
Your rep is just stellar. Well done for Norway. Did they have referendum where people voted to leave the EU and cited issues such as immigration as one of their concerns. So compatible with the 4 freedoms. That is before we get into economy and population sizes.rick_chasey said:
You see in the last two posts you can see why brexiters get a bad rep.john80 said:
We are the UK or have yiu emigrated already in your head.rick_chasey said:
Er Norway?john80 said:
If it commited to the four freedoms we would still be in the EU. God almighty.rick_chasey said:U.K. would have more leverage if it committed to the 4 freedoms but whatever
I get your point but you really miss the proportions aspect.
Even if the leverage of fishing was 100x it’s worth it’s still small fry...
Norway is signed up to 4 freedoms and is not an EU member. End of.
So this:
is just stupid or lyingjohn80 said:If it commited to the four freedoms we would still be in the EU. God almighty.
You can project all you want about why people voted but the govt didn’t ask why did they?john80 said:
If it commited to the four freedoms we would still be in the EU. God almighty.0 -
Do you understand the word qualification and its associated definition? Good news I suppose is that Bishops and those from Eaton are intrinsically qualified to act as members of parliament or the house of Lords in your head. The only shame is that lifelong union reps are struggling to get elected for Labour at the last election. That is really bringing the qualification level down. We were almost perfectly represented with high quality thinking before that.rjsterry said:
The IMB is not part of a negotiation; it's a piece of proposed legislation. Seeing as they sit in the House of Lords and scrutinise legislation, they may just be more qualified to comment on this piece of legislation than you.john80 said:
If ever i wanted a qualified assessment of a negotiation i imagine a bishop is who i would turn to.rick_chasey said:
the bishops weigh in on internal market bill0 -
Well quite.TheBigBean said:
No one other than hardened europhiles refer to the four freedoms. It's a statement that comes with an almost religious level of belief.rick_chasey said:
^^ when the world refers to 4 freedoms they are referring to this.rick_chasey said:
Norway is not a member of the EU.
The single market on its own does not make for complete freedom of movement of goods - as the Norwegian and Swiss border demonstrate. If it was not the case, the customs union would be pointless.
Rick appears to be regurgitating the EU mantra without really thinking it through."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'm sure Johnson will promise he'll have everything sorted for Christmas. Though he might not specify which one.pblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.0 -
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When will these leave voters start respecting democracy?- Genesis Croix de Fer
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“Bring back power to Westminster!”pangolin said:When will these leave voters start respecting democracy?
Oh!The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I am trying to figure out why these Leavers changing their minds as reality starts to bite annoys me more than the unrepentant ones.
I can only think it is because they had all the available knowledge and ability to process it and yet now they say oops.0 -
surrey_commuter said:
I am trying to figure out why these Leavers changing their minds as reality starts to bite annoys me more than the unrepentant ones.
I can only think it is because they had all the available knowledge and ability to process it and yet now they say oops.
They believed people who lied to them, because they wanted to believe. Anyone who still thinks Gove isn't a shameless lying git isn't paying attention. Even Theresa May knows it, and doesn't mind showing it.
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, or why you are bringing Eton and union reps into it, but senior bishops have sat in the HoL since the Middle Ages.john80 said:
Do you understand the word qualification and its associated definition? Good news I suppose is that Bishops and those from Eaton are intrinsically qualified to act as members of parliament or the house of Lords in your head. The only shame is that lifelong union reps are struggling to get elected for Labour at the last election. That is really bringing the qualification level down. We were almost perfectly represented with high quality thinking before that.rjsterry said:
The IMB is not part of a negotiation; it's a piece of proposed legislation. Seeing as they sit in the House of Lords and scrutinise legislation, they may just be more qualified to comment on this piece of legislation than you.john80 said:
If ever i wanted a qualified assessment of a negotiation i imagine a bishop is who i would turn to.rick_chasey said:
the bishops weigh in on internal market bill1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.0 -
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.0 -
Talk us through your strategy for stockpiling fresh fruit and veg SC. As that is where the Tesco guy thinks the risk lies.surrey_commuter said:
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing...
That "this shortage of just a few months" might not happen if we're lucky and the boss of Tesco is wrong isn't a really terribly great selling point for Brexit.0 -
the nail that you have so firmly hit on the head is that fresh fruit and veg can not be stockpiled in the supply chain.Stevo_666 said:
Talk us through your strategy for stockpiling fresh fruit and veg SC. As that is where the Tesco guy thinks the risk lies.surrey_commuter said:
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.
On a different note Honda say that to stockpile 3 weeks of parts for their UK factory would require them to construct one of the largest buildings on earth.0 -
I'm not sure youve really grasped this 'risk' thing.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing...
That "this shortage of just a few months" might not happen if we're lucky and the boss of Tesco is wrong isn't a really terribly great selling point for Brexit.
Or the scope, which is limited products (certain types of fresh fod) and limited time (while supply chains adjust to the changes). Hardly the 'people going hungry' scenario that people like Orraloon keep mindlessly trotting out.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Each week the bar is loweredStevo_666 said:
I'm not sure youve really grasped this 'risk' thing.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing...
That "this shortage of just a few months" might not happen if we're lucky and the boss of Tesco is wrong isn't a really terribly great selling point for Brexit.
Or the scope, which is limited products (certain types of fresh fod) and limited time (while supply chains adjust to the changes). Hardly the 'people going hungry' scenario that people like Orraloon keep mindlessly trotting out.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
I'm not sure youve really grasped this 'risk' thing.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing...
That "this shortage of just a few months" might not happen if we're lucky and the boss of Tesco is wrong isn't a really terribly great selling point for Brexit.
Or the scope, which is limited products (certain types of fresh fod) and limited time (while supply chains adjust to the changes). Hardly the 'people going hungry' scenario that people like Orraloon keep mindlessly trotting out.
I'm not sure you've grasped this risk thing: he's saying there's a risk. I'm no expert, but I'm kind of assuming that the boss of Tesco is.
As I say, if the best you can do to sell me Brexit that this scenario of food shortages "of a few months" might not happen, I'm not entirely convinced about the prospectus.0 -
I can imagine you'd be similarly sanguine if a Labour government had steered us into a situation where we faced shortages of fresh food?Stevo_666 said:
I'm not sure youve really grasped this 'risk' thing.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't hapened yet and may or may not occur - this is Cake Stop, not 'Minority Report'.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In case you missed the bit in the second parahraph that provides some useful context, he is simply pointing out that we can't rule out the risk of a shortage of certain items in a particular situation. Hardly the same as saying there will be.briantrumpet said:
“We can’t rule out the possibility that if there is dislocation at the ports of entry to the UK there will be some shortages of some items of fresh food, at least for a time,”
Thanks for the reassurance that this is all going swimmingly. That's a relief.
This thread has been full of people pointing out that because there are risks of certain things happening in future that the world is going to hell in a hand cart. This is another one.
It's not Tesco whingeing...
That "this shortage of just a few months" might not happen if we're lucky and the boss of Tesco is wrong isn't a really terribly great selling point for Brexit.
Or the scope, which is limited products (certain types of fresh fod) and limited time (while supply chains adjust to the changes). Hardly the 'people going hungry' scenario that people like Orraloon keep mindlessly trotting out.
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No, they just need a bigger forklift and a larger yard for the shipping containers.surrey_commuter said:
the nail that you have so firmly hit on the head is that fresh fruit and veg can not be stockpiled in the supply chain.Stevo_666 said:
Talk us through your strategy for stockpiling fresh fruit and veg SC. As that is where the Tesco guy thinks the risk lies.surrey_commuter said:
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.
On a different note Honda say that to stockpile 3 weeks of parts for their UK factory would require them to construct one of the largest buildings on earth.0 -
non food items are obviously less important but after the year they have had I can not see retailers stockpiling anything as it is just too risky with C19.
I have said it before but from an economics point of view it really is exciting0 -
False deadlines seem to be an ongoing issue for this government.
Manchester today. Real deadline - EU 00:00 01/01/2021.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I used to work there (in "assembly frame" or final assembly). It would need to be massive.surrey_commuter said:
the nail that you have so firmly hit on the head is that fresh fruit and veg can not be stockpiled in the supply chain.Stevo_666 said:
Talk us through your strategy for stockpiling fresh fruit and veg SC. As that is where the Tesco guy thinks the risk lies.surrey_commuter said:
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.
On a different note Honda say that to stockpile 3 weeks of parts for their UK factory would require them to construct one of the largest buildings on earth.
The whole model is built on just-in-time manufacturing with parts arriving just a few hours before they're fitting on the car. There is no parts storage on the site.
Having said that, they don't make nearly as many cars there now as they did when i was there and I think it's being closed down next year?
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I used to work there in Assembly Frame (or final assembly) and the building would need to be huge as no parts are stored on site.The entire place is run on just-in-time delivery with parts arriving a few hours before being fitted to the cars.surrey_commuter said:
the nail that you have so firmly hit on the head is that fresh fruit and veg can not be stockpiled in the supply chain.Stevo_666 said:
Talk us through your strategy for stockpiling fresh fruit and veg SC. As that is where the Tesco guy thinks the risk lies.surrey_commuter said:
Once again you have inadvertently hit the nail firmly on the headStevo_666 said:
It'll be fun watching the stockpilers on here trying to stockpile fresh food and vegpblakeney said:
Not exactly news though, but I did like this part...briantrumpet said:
"Allan insisted there was no need for the public to stockpile, “but there may be some things we have to learn to do without for a few weeks, possibly a few months after Brexit,” he said."
Cue the stockpiling. That'll boost profits in the meantime.
On a different note Honda say that to stockpile 3 weeks of parts for their UK factory would require them to construct one of the largest buildings on earth.
Having said that, I don't think they make as many cars now as they did when i was there and i think its closing down next year.
A new car used to come of the end of each line (there were 2 plants) every 90 seconds across 2 shifts.0
