BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Accepting it and making the most of it does not prevent one from whinging about it.Stevo_666 said:
We are leaving so we may as well make the most of it, as I've said before.pblakeney said:Accepting you're leaving is very different from liking it.
You may have noticed. It will continue.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
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well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Literally not but ok.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
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Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.0 -
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'. 1 -
Ok, how would you control immigration, not be under the ECJ and stop contributions to the EU without leaving the SM@CU Rick?rick_chasey said:
Literally not but ok.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
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Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.1 -
The UK isn't leaving the Single Market.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!2 -
It's free country and of course you can do that, but unless you have a handy time machine to go back and try to change things, whats the point?pblakeney said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
None of those things you describe are “leaving the EU” apart from maybe “under the ECJ” but I suspect it’s a clumsy phrase.spatt77 said:
Ok, how would you control immigration, not be under the ECJ and stop contributions to the EU without leaving the SM@CU Rick?rick_chasey said:
Literally not but ok.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
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you suspect wrong!rick_chasey said:
None of those things you describe are “leaving the EU” apart from maybe “under the ECJ” but I suspect it’s a clumsy phrase.spatt77 said:
Ok, how would you control immigration, not be under the ECJ and stop contributions to the EU without leaving the SM@CU Rick?rick_chasey said:
Literally not but ok.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
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I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.2 -
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
doesnt mean i would`nt if asked though!webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.
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Get's it off my chest and makes me feel better.Stevo_666 said:
It's free country and of course you can do that, but unless you have a handy time machine to go back and try to change things, whats the point?pblakeney said:
Anyone else paying attention is just a bonus.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
They could crowd fund a time machine, that might be useful. They could then do a Cake Stop remake of 'The Terminator' where they send an assassin back in time to kill the mother of Dominic Cummingsspatt77 said:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So why isn't off your chest already?pblakeney said: "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's the gift that keeps on giving.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.0 -
But do they now?spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
"We've heard a lot about wanting a "zero-tariff, zero-quota" deal between the UK and the EU. Ceta does not do that.
Ceta gets rid of most, but not all, tariffs (that's taxes on imports) on goods traded between the EU and Canada. Tariffs remain on poultry, meat and eggs.
It also increases quotas (that's the amount of a product that can be exported without extra charges) but does not get rid of them altogether. For example, quotas on EU cheese exports to Canada increase from 18,500 tonnes to 31,972 tonnes a year.
It does little for the trade in services and in particular almost nothing for the trade in financial services, which is very important for the UK economy."
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
A bit like Brexit itself then.pblakeney said:It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Anyhow fill your boots, it'll make no difference.
Makes me happy. And that's enough.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So we have to worry about EU cheese flooding our market! oh dear, I`m so worried! and South Korea and Japanpblakeney said:
But do they now?spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
"We've heard a lot about wanting a "zero-tariff, zero-quota" deal between the UK and the EU. Ceta does not do that.
Ceta gets rid of most, but not all, tariffs (that's taxes on imports) on goods traded between the EU and Canada. Tariffs remain on poultry, meat and eggs.
It also increases quotas (that's the amount of a product that can be exported without extra charges) but does not get rid of them altogether. For example, quotas on EU cheese exports to Canada increase from 18,500 tonnes to 31,972 tonnes a year.
It does little for the trade in services and in particular almost nothing for the trade in financial services, which is very important for the UK economy."0 -
Just an example to prove that what you think you want isn't what you think it is.spatt77 said:
So we have to worry about EU cheese flooding our market! oh dear, I`m so worried! and South Korea and Japanpblakeney said:
But do they now?spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
"We've heard a lot about wanting a "zero-tariff, zero-quota" deal between the UK and the EU. Ceta does not do that.
Ceta gets rid of most, but not all, tariffs (that's taxes on imports) on goods traded between the EU and Canada. Tariffs remain on poultry, meat and eggs.
It also increases quotas (that's the amount of a product that can be exported without extra charges) but does not get rid of them altogether. For example, quotas on EU cheese exports to Canada increase from 18,500 tonnes to 31,972 tonnes a year.
It does little for the trade in services and in particular almost nothing for the trade in financial services, which is very important for the UK economy."
Sums up Brexit.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
