BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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For some people it doesn't. But frankly most people won't see the point of trying to rejoin immediately after we have left.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Bit late for that line of argument now...briantrumpet said:I dunno, but maybe there's a difference between a group of countries who generally will benefit if you do well, and a malign country that wants to destabilise your system of government for its own benefit....
As noted before, we've had 40 years of people pointing out why we should leave the EEC/EU, so just making a start here on the next 40 years. The argument doesn't go away.
Any rejoining of the EU requires full membership - so the Euro as a currency, no opt outs etc then good luck with that - and patience. Also will be interesting to see what the EU has become by time those conversations happen, maybe they will achieve the dream of the European superstate?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
yeah , its a fair argument, lets give it 40 years, if leaving doesn't work out we`ll reapply!;)ballysmate said:
The argument is not now, in the words of The Clash, 'Should I stay or should I go?' but whether or not to rejoin. A much more difficult argument.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Bit late for that line of argument now...briantrumpet said:I dunno, but maybe there's a difference between a group of countries who generally will benefit if you do well, and a malign country that wants to destabilise your system of government for its own benefit....
As noted before, we've had 40 years of people pointing out why we should leave the EEC/EU, so just making a start here on the next 40 years. The argument doesn't go away.0 -
Remember though Bally, issues like EU membership are far too complex for the peasants so they shouldn't be allowed to vote on things like that. So were were told by some people on here.ballysmate said:
The argument is not now, in the words of The Clash, 'Should I stay or should I go?' but whether or not to rejoin. A much more difficult argument.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Bit late for that line of argument now...briantrumpet said:I dunno, but maybe there's a difference between a group of countries who generally will benefit if you do well, and a malign country that wants to destabilise your system of government for its own benefit....
As noted before, we've had 40 years of people pointing out why we should leave the EEC/EU, so just making a start here on the next 40 years. The argument doesn't go away."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Yeah, of course. Silly me. Then there is the thorny question of outside influence.Stevo_666 said:
Remember though Bally, issues like EU membership are far too complex for the peasants so they shouldn't be allowed to vote on things like that. So were were told by some people on here.ballysmate said:
The argument is not now, in the words of The Clash, 'Should I stay or should I go?' but whether or not to rejoin. A much more difficult argument.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Bit late for that line of argument now...briantrumpet said:I dunno, but maybe there's a difference between a group of countries who generally will benefit if you do well, and a malign country that wants to destabilise your system of government for its own benefit....
As noted before, we've had 40 years of people pointing out why we should leave the EEC/EU, so just making a start here on the next 40 years. The argument doesn't go away.
Best leave well alone, hey what?0 -
I think 46 years is a fair amount of time given we spent just over 46 years in the EU IIRC. I'm sure it'll be top of my priority list when I get my telegram from Queenie.spatt77 said:
yeah , its a fair argument, lets give it 40 years, if leaving doesn't work out we`ll reapply!;)ballysmate said:
The argument is not now, in the words of The Clash, 'Should I stay or should I go?' but whether or not to rejoin. A much more difficult argument.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Bit late for that line of argument now...briantrumpet said:I dunno, but maybe there's a difference between a group of countries who generally will benefit if you do well, and a malign country that wants to destabilise your system of government for its own benefit....
As noted before, we've had 40 years of people pointing out why we should leave the EEC/EU, so just making a start here on the next 40 years. The argument doesn't go away."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
yeah, but if we vote to remain will the pro EU lot know what they were voting for?0
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You do have eyes and a TV though. (I assume)spatt77 said:Im sure Russia is happy we voted out, however, Im not on Facebook or Twitter and spend little time online! Im sure some people maybe have been influenced by online content but that cuts both ways! quite ironic really that remain side are bothered about another country having influence on what goes on in the UK!
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and a brain, luckily enough!kingstongraham said:
You do have eyes and a TV though. (I assume)spatt77 said:Im sure Russia is happy we voted out, however, Im not on Facebook or Twitter and spend little time online! Im sure some people maybe have been influenced by online content but that cuts both ways! quite ironic really that remain side are bothered about another country having influence on what goes on in the UK!
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Surely if there was a future referendum about rejoining the EU, people who wanted to rejoin would be called 'rejoiners' and people who wanted to remain outside the EU would be called 'remainers' ?spatt77 said:yeah, but if we vote to remain will the pro EU lot know what they were voting for?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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yeah, we`ll have to trade like we do with the rest of the world! oh , how will we cope! we`re doomed!;)rick_chasey said:In the telegraph tomorrow
No deal now likeliest option.
Appalling.0 -
Genuine question - why are you not interested in finding out the implications of this?spatt77 said:
yeah, we`ll have to trade like we do with the rest of the world! oh , how will we cope! we`re doomed!;)rick_chasey said:In the telegraph tomorrow
No deal now likeliest option.
Appalling.0 -
rick_chasey said:
In the telegraph tomorrow
No deal now likeliest option.
Appalling.
Surely that has been the likeliest outcome since we adopted the strategy of sticking to our guns because they always fold at the 11th hour.
And why no mention of the German car manufacturers?0 -
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That will be the Rwanda style dealrick_chasey said:OVEN READY DEAL
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That article seems to be completely based on shifting the blame to them furriners.0
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It is the telegraph....briantrumpet said:That article seems to be completely based on shifting the blame to them furriners.
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A last minute cave-in sold as a victory against the odds? Now where would we have seen that tactic before?rick_chasey said:So there is a theory is this is laying the groundwork for a sh!t deal as they can claim victory.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Technically a no deal is oven ready, so I suppose you're right.rick_chasey said:OVEN READY DEAL
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I guess you could put a live chicken in an oven. Might cause a bit of disruption before it's ready for eating.Stevo_666 said:
Technically a no deal is oven ready, so I suppose you're right.rick_chasey said:OVEN READY DEAL
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This is EU stupid logic
I wonder when he will realise this fail
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Christ, that's almost exactly what Trump says about tariffs.coopster_the_1st said:This is EU stupid logic
I wonder when he will realise this fail0 -
On the 14th April......
These steps should come as no surprise.pblakeney said:Protectionism appears to be the biggest trend post virus.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Argh can you not see this is the way the world is going?
UK is striking out on its own just as all the big markets are putting up bigger trade barriers. It's nuts.1 -
Im actually interested on how many times i have to tell you" ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY"!surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - why are you not interested in finding out the implications of this?spatt77 said:
yeah, we`ll have to trade like we do with the rest of the world! oh , how will we cope! we`re doomed!;)rick_chasey said:In the telegraph tomorrow
No deal now likeliest option.
Appalling.0 -
It is an EU special that. The idea that [German] tax payers were giving money to [Italian] tax payers would have been hard sell, but this way, the rest of world will generously help out without any retaliatory measures.0
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But you did not write "who cares? you can not put a price on sovereignty"spatt77 said:
Im actually interested on how many times i have to tell you" ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY"!surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - why are you not interested in finding out the implications of this?spatt77 said:
yeah, we`ll have to trade like we do with the rest of the world! oh , how will we cope! we`re doomed!;)rick_chasey said:In the telegraph tomorrow
No deal now likeliest option.
Appalling.
I took your answer to be sarcastic "how will we cope, we're doomed" which I took to mean that you see little or no downside.0 -
Except the additional cost will be passed onto EU citizensTheBigBean said:It is an EU special that. The idea that [German] tax payers were giving money to [Italian] tax payers would have been hard sell, but this way, the rest of world will generously help out without any retaliatory measures.
We won't tax you more but you will pay more for the same items
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Anyone seen the breakdown of yearly country payments for the 2021-2027 EU budget?
I've only seen a recent pre-agreement figure of 1.075% of 2018 GDP.
That would have put the figure on the side of the bus at £590m a week.
We're gonna need a bigger bus!0
