BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

surrey_commuter

Fenix wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

the public information campaign will be interesting. They have to be scary enough for people/businesses to make appropriate arrangements but presumably have to still be able to claim that it is all a big fuss about nothing.

But eventually IF we brexit - the sh** will hit the fan. And seeing as people called 999 when KFC ran out of chicken - I don't see the public being happy about empty shelves for no good reason...

surely 52% will see it as a price worth paying?

BoJo and the rest of the circus can have one last hurrahh blaming the EU before switching over the the Irish

fenix

I don't see that all but the hardcore of the 52% that voted Leave will see it as a price worth paying.

Where did it say in the campaigns that we would have food shortages and people dying from lack of medication/medical treatment ?

surrey_commuter

Fenix wrote:

I don't see that all but the hardcore of the 52% that voted Leave will see it as a price worth paying.

Where did it say in the campaigns that we would have food shortages and people dying from lack of medication/medical treatment ?

was probably in Project Fear

kingstongraham

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Fenix wrote:

I don't see that all but the hardcore of the 52% that voted Leave will see it as a price worth paying.

Where did it say in the campaigns that we would have food shortages and people dying from lack of medication/medical treatment ?

was probably in Project Fear

Who was it from the Leave campaign who recently claimed that none of the difficulties should come as a surprise to leave voters because they were all highlighted by the remain campaign?

pblakeney

Surrey Commuter wrote:

the public information campaign will be interesting. They have to be scary enough for people/businesses to make appropriate arrangements but presumably have to still be able to claim that it is all a big fuss about nothing.

In an interview at a food market on 5Live (maybe another BBC station) this morning an importer said that he had received documents from a Dutch exporter outlining everything that will have to be in place on the 31st of October.
He was asked if he had got everything in place.
The reply was basically, "Nah, it'll be alright."

Sleepwalking to disaster.
Tick tock...

robert88

Fenix wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

the public information campaign will be interesting. They have to be scary enough for people/businesses to make appropriate arrangements but presumably have to still be able to claim that it is all a big fuss about nothing.

But eventually IF we brexit - the sh** will hit the fan. And seeing as people called 999 when KFC ran out of chicken - I don't see the public being happy about empty shelves for no good reason...

We are getting in a year's supply of cat food based on the fact it has long shelf life, is bound to price-inflate and it would be too embarrassing to explain Brexit to a cat.

fenix

I've stockpiled bikes. ;-)

kingstongraham

PBlakeney wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

the public information campaign will be interesting. They have to be scary enough for people/businesses to make appropriate arrangements but presumably have to still be able to claim that it is all a big fuss about nothing.

In an interview at a food market on 5Live (maybe another BBC station) this morning an importer said that he had received documents from a Dutch exporter outlining everything that will have to be in place on the 31st of October.
He was asked if he had got everything in place.
The reply was basically, "Nah, it'll be alright."

I think there will be a lot of that.

Is it possible that it will be alright?

fenix

Only if we don't Brexit I guess.

Which I am hoping is a possibility.

Longshot

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is it possible that it will be alright?

Yes, absolutely it is possible. It's not assured, it may not even be likely but it is possible.

surrey_commuter

Longshot wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is it possible that it will be alright?

Yes, absolutely it is possible. It's not assured, it may not even be likely but it is possible.

from an economics point of view it is absolutely fascinating

robert88

Longshot wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is it possible that it will be alright?

Yes, absolutely it is possible. It's not assured, it may not even be likely but it is possible.

.. And it may even confirm some theories in the field of quantum mechanics.

sungod

i think all it confirms is one of the great lies in the rotten core of brexit

brexiters claim that the uk will be free to make great trade deals, reality shows that the stronger party has the upper hand

if the brexiters' claims were true, the eu would have caved, but of course it didn't, because the uk alone is the weaker party

the uk alone will be diminished overall and be on the losing end of any negotiation with a stronger party

even the deals in principle like with south korea show this when you dig into the nature of what is actually traded

no doubt the brexiters will continue to whine about the problems being everyone else's fault, never their own

pblakeney

sungod wrote:

...the uk alone will be diminished overall and be on the losing end of any negotiation with a stronger party...

Not only that, but America basically told us this week that we will be shafted by them as we are desperate.

coopster_the_1st

Since failing to leave on 29th March 2019 at 11pm, the UK has paid the EU £4,391m

That's a lot of money that the UK schools or hospitals could have benefited from

rick_chasey

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Since failing to leave on 29th March 2019 at 11pm, the UK has paid the EU £4,391m

https://www.businessinsider.com/price-o ... ?r=US&IR=T from April

Brexit has cost the UK economy £66 billion ($86 billion) so far, according to S&P Global Ratings.

norvernrob

Rick Chasey wrote:

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Since failing to leave on 29th March 2019 at 11pm, the UK has paid the EU £4,391m

https://www.businessinsider.com/price-o ... ?r=US&IR=T from April

Brexit has cost the UK economy £66 billion ($86 billion) so far, according to S&P Global Ratings.

Shouldn’t that say ‘Years of uncertainty over Brexit because of a totally useless government’?

fenix

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Since failing to leave on 29th March 2019 at 11pm, the UK has paid the EU £4,391m

That's a lot of money that the UK schools or hospitals could have benefited from

If only you'd put that on the bus eh ?

Have you taken off what the EU has paid for in the UK ?

Ignoring the benefits of frictionless trade ?

It's a price worth paying. Look at how much money Grayling and co have peed away trying to prepare the country for a ludicrous act of self harm. Ridiculous.

Longshot

Robert88 wrote:

Longshot wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Is it possible that it will be alright?

Yes, absolutely it is possible. It's not assured, it may not even be likely but it is possible.

.. And it may even confirm some theories in the field of quantum mechanics.

It's about as clear as quantum mechanics.

rick_chasey

Sainos CEO saying no deal shelves will be empty after a week.

rjsterry

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Since failing to leave on 29th March 2019 at 11pm, the UK has paid the EU £4,391m

That's a lot of money that the UK schools or hospitals could have benefited from

No. It really isn't. It's less than the amount just NHS spending is expected to rise between this year and next.

Stevo_666

Rick Chasey wrote:

Sainos CEO saying no deal shelves will be empty after a week.

They have no deal shelves? I guess there will be more stock on the remain shelves.

rick_chasey

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Sainos CEO saying no deal shelves will be empty after a week.

They have no deal shelves? I guess there will be more stock on the remain shelves.

This crap joke is so powerful I now want the most extreme brexit imaginable.

Stevo_666

Rick Chasey wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Sainos CEO saying no deal shelves will be empty after a week.

They have no deal shelves? I guess there will be more stock on the remain shelves.

This crap joke is so powerful I now want the most extreme brexit imaginable.

Each to their own I guess. After you posted what you did, I was just relieved that I usually shop at Waitrose.

rick_chasey

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Sainos CEO saying no deal shelves will be empty after a week.

They have no deal shelves? I guess there will be more stock on the remain shelves.

This crap joke is so powerful I now want the most extreme brexit imaginable.

Each to their own I guess. After you posted what you did, I was just relieved that I usually shop at Waitrose.

sO FuNnY

TheBigBean

The global economy seems to be looking a bit wobbly. Gilt rates / interest rate swaps are completely absurd at the moment.

robert88

TheBigBean wrote:

The global economy seems to be looking a bit wobbly. Gilt rates / interest rate swaps are completely absurd at the moment.

The deranged POTUS could trigger a financial crisis just using twitter. e.g.

"Our problem is not China - We are stronger than ever, money is pouring into the US while China is losing companies by the thousands to other countries, and their currency is under siege," Trump tweeted Wednesday.
He continued: "Our problem is a Federal Reserve that is too proud to admit their mistake of acting too fast and tightening too much (and that I was right!). They must Cut Rates bigger and faster, and stop their ridiculous quantitative tightening NOW."

After that the GOP could not put Humpty Dumpty together again though.

cycleclinic

I am truely tired of trying to care when those that lead us dont seem to or dont seem to see the dangers. all that matters is there view and they talk about brexit as a test of democracy when they fail to relaise a no deal which 48% of people did not vote for mean there vote does not matter, compromise wont happen and therefore there is no point in voting unless your in the majority. That is a bigger danger. Hense its easier not to care. Perhaps we should move to somehwere where our vote counts.

The global ecomony is a bit wobbley. That could create a recession at any point, never mind brexit. If the shelves end up empty come no deal I suspect the countryside will become devoide of wildlife very quickly. In fact house sales data support the idea that a recession is looming brexit or not. There was an article in the economist recently. I know a proper remainer rag but hey ho.

I'm not sure where coopster 1st is getting his economics 101 from. If we stopped paying the EU our dues of membership it does not mean that money can be spent elsewhere. HM tresuary is not a bank account where money is paid from an employer and paid out for golf club membership and other bills. HM tresury is a feedback loop where it creates its own currancy that is used within the UK and traded amongst nations, transactions and transfers of UK currancy are taxed so the number and sizes of transactions influences the tax take. hense if membership of the EU enhances the tax take then were quids in. I suppose well find out if cooper the 1st is right or not in november.

I am also truely fed up of the SNP, Labour, Tories and the English continuely swinging the wrecking ball on the U.K How can anyone be content with the continued threatened demolition of there home or part of it. Because that what it feels like with the continued talk of scottish independence. This is something that affect all 4 nations not just scotland so it should not just be up to the scottish government to decide if there should be a plebicite. Oh we will just live in the rooms remaining seems to be the english attitude and why would anyone want that. Which other country in the world is content with a big chunk of it going its own way and simply shrugs its shoulders in reponse. What the hell is wrong with us?

pblakeney

^^^^
In simple terms, there is no us any more, just me me me.

fenix

Well you say Me Me Me- but the saps voting for Leave don't realise they've been manipulated in part by people betting on our economy.

It's more Them Them Them.