BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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No one is stopping you doing this is not a reason for anything.spatt77 said:
We were the "first world" 30 years ago and ate more seasonally then, I actually preferred it, exotic fruit was a real treat and something to look forward too. if that isn't your thing modern farming methods may sort any shortage that could happen.rick_chasey said:
This is the first world 🙄john80 said:
Maybe people need to have a think about seasonal fruit and veg. It is very first world to think that strawberries in January is the norm and does not come with some environmental drawbacks.kingstongraham said:It's obviously possible to reduce these percentages, but finding alternative sources or growing more ourselves is clearly either expensive or a longer term option.
Love this claim that gridlocks in Dover & Calais are actually some sort of ecological panacea.0 -
Was 1990 really such a different time as regards supermarkets?0
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rick_chasey said:
No one is stopping you doing this is not a reason for anything.spatt77 said:
We were the "first world" 30 years ago and ate more seasonally then, I actually preferred it, exotic fruit was a real treat and something to look forward too. if that isn't your thing modern farming methods may sort any shortage that could happen.rick_chasey said:
This is the first world 🙄john80 said:
Maybe people need to have a think about seasonal fruit and veg. It is very first world to think that strawberries in January is the norm and does not come with some environmental drawbacks.kingstongraham said:It's obviously possible to reduce these percentages, but finding alternative sources or growing more ourselves is clearly either expensive or a longer term option.
Love this claim that gridlocks in Dover & Calais are actually some sort of ecological panacea.
The whole Brexit thing is about an enforced reduction in choice.0 -
My guesstimate is that you'd have to go back to 1985, or even 1980.kingstongraham said:Was 1990 really such a different time as regards supermarkets?
Fairly sure supply was more restricted in the '70s, just in my mind though.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Surely there will be reduction in trade due to increased costs and too much hassle. This will help relieve pressure at the border.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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pblakeney said:
My guesstimate is that you'd have to go back to 1985, or even 1980.kingstongraham said:Was 1990 really such a different time as regards supermarkets?
Fairly sure supply was more restricted in the '70s, just in my mind though.
70s, yes, it was. There was a Gateway in my home village, but there were at least two greengrocers, three bakers, two butchers, and two general grocers who delivered. Most of the stuff was very seasonal, and you could map out the year by the arrival of strawberries, Seville oranges for marmalade making, sprouts (wait till after the first frost), etc. There were still local abattoirs & butchers, dairies, and fruit & veg wholesalers. I reckon if oil had run out, the whole system had enough local capacity to work on horse & cart, at a push. It hadn't really evolved that far since the end of WW2, and (I think) on average, 25% of take home pay went on groceries.
We didn't live in a cardboard box in the middle of the road, BTW.0 -
Cars worked in the 80s
That doesn't mean you can tear 40 years worth of technical developments out of your car, and expect it to run.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It seems they have agreed to work on the legal texts and resolve as much as they can by working every day. This is on the "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" principle.tailwindhome said:
This all seems sensible and is what the UK wanted, but it doesn't do much for the big outstanding issues, so I guess the plan is get a legal agreement together and then have some high level arguments about the big points.0 -
tailwindhome said:
Cars worked in the 80s
That doesn't mean you can tear 40 years worth of technical developments out of your car, and expect it to run.
We could always go back to driving Austin 1300s, or Maxis... or even Allegros, with their square steering wheels (quartics, I think).0 -
I still have a desire to get a TR6.tailwindhome said:Cars worked in the 80s
That doesn't mean you can tear 40 years worth of technical developments out of your car, and expect it to run.
Best part is I'd be able to fix it if it stops running.Follow on joke - I'd get plenty practice.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It seems silly to me that anyone revels in removing choice from other people, or even consider a Swede worth eating.
Fortunately, most avocados don't come from Europe, so I'll look forward to continuing to have them as a breakfast with my Sourdough.0 -
I note that biscoff have now taken over the non perishable comfort food world. Will these get wavedcthrough if they stick a few raspberries in the truck?0
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Fingers crosseddarkhairedlord said:I note that biscoff have now taken over the non perishable comfort food world. Will these get wavedcthrough if they stick a few raspberries in the truck?
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Look at it this way. Clearly the Tesco guy thinks that business and customs authorities will adapt, otherwise why would he say that any shortages would be temporary?rick_chasey said:
So how does it get to the same flow as before?Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
When no checks become some checks you can’t bend time
Or are you saying that what he wrote is rubbish?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Has anybody mentioned the wine. I know it doesn’t go off not that it would have a chance in our house. But a couple of lost or slow trucks and me and missus could be in purgatory.0
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Could ruin the beaujolais nouveau mind..webboo said:Has anybody mentioned the wine. I know it doesn’t go off not that it would have a chance in our house. But a couple of lost or slow trucks and me and missus could be in purgatory.
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I'm sure there is a nuance between a wine collection and stockpiling. 😉webboo said:Has anybody mentioned the wine. I know it doesn’t go off not that it would have a chance in our house. But a couple of lost or slow trucks and me and missus could be in purgatory.
Both evaporate at the same rate in my experience. 🤣The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?0 -
The Brexiters are piping mad that they won. I accept that there was a case for brexit in 2016, but if you still think brexit is going to do anything good, you are certifiably insane.sungod said:
no tears here, just contempt for whining brexiter traitorsspatt77 said:Maybe we should start exporting salty remainers tears? their seems plenty on here! we`ll do a roaring trade and maybe import more toys because it seems many of them have been thrown out of the Pram!
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Another good thread from this guyTheBigBean said:
It seems they have agreed to work on the legal texts and resolve as much as they can by working every day. This is on the "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" principle.tailwindhome said:
This all seems sensible and is what the UK wanted, but it doesn't do much for the big outstanding issues, so I guess the plan is get a legal agreement together and then have some high level arguments about the big points.
Don't know if you seen the one I posted outlining the remaining issues and possible resolution
The UK negotiating principles
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations-with-the-eu
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
When Stevo reposts the Telegraph and/or Coopster reposts the Express, claiming Barnier has been sacked you know we're nearly there
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
john80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.</blockquoterick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about them0 -
surrey_commuter said:
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about themjohn80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Well, we've already started with the risk of fresh food shortages lasting only a few months...0 -
Yes, I saw the thread prior to you posting, but I was concerned it wouldn't pass surrey_commuter's Who on Twitter test.tailwindhome said:
Another good thread from this guyTheBigBean said:
It seems they have agreed to work on the legal texts and resolve as much as they can by working every day. This is on the "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" principle.tailwindhome said:
This all seems sensible and is what the UK wanted, but it doesn't do much for the big outstanding issues, so I guess the plan is get a legal agreement together and then have some high level arguments about the big points.
Don't know if you seen the one I posted outlining the remaining issues and possible resolution
The UK negotiating principles
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations-with-the-eu
Otherwise, I feel like his summary is similar to mine though maybe that is being a bit generous.
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Don't forget forcing those nasty millennial upstarts to have swede on their toast instead of avocado.briantrumpet said:surrey_commuter said:
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about themjohn80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Well, we've already started with the risk of fresh food shortages lasting only a few months...- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I have conceded that my dislike of Twitter is down to old age but I will chose to ignore it rather than moan about the formatting and provenance of the authorsTheBigBean said:
Yes, I saw the thread prior to you posting, but I was concerned it wouldn't pass surrey_commuter's Who on Twitter test.tailwindhome said:
Another good thread from this guyTheBigBean said:
It seems they have agreed to work on the legal texts and resolve as much as they can by working every day. This is on the "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" principle.tailwindhome said:
This all seems sensible and is what the UK wanted, but it doesn't do much for the big outstanding issues, so I guess the plan is get a legal agreement together and then have some high level arguments about the big points.
Don't know if you seen the one I posted outlining the remaining issues and possible resolution
The UK negotiating principles
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations/organising-principles-for-further-negotiations-with-the-eu
Otherwise, I feel like his summary is similar to mine though maybe that is being a bit generous.0 -
There is little point as the last 1500 pages have shown. We could control immigration but some people think that is a bad idea. We could support strategic industries over decades which some will argue is a waste of time. We could amend the human rights act to give more balance but some wont like that. All of the above are upsides for some but not for others. Someone will be along in a minute to point out they have lost some cash so it was always a terrible idea and there literally coild be no upside ever.surrey_commuter said:john80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?0 -
We all know that the EU doesn't sack anyone for doing a bad job, as I've said on here before.tailwindhome said:
When Stevo reposts the Telegraph and/or Coopster reposts the Express, claiming Barnier has been sacked you know we're nearly there"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Theres a risk of a lot of things Brian. Seems you're still clinging onto this Tesco article about the possibility of a short term shortage of blueberries as a reason to do a last minute U turn on leavingbriantrumpet said:surrey_commuter said:
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about themjohn80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Well, we've already started with the risk of fresh food shortages lasting only a few months...
To be honest I've seen better arguments. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1
