BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Tell me more, Im intrigued to know how you know what i think.....pblakeney said:
Just an example to prove that what you think you want isn't what you think it is.spatt77 said:
So we have to worry about EU cheese flooding our market! oh dear, I`m so worried! and South Korea and Japanpblakeney said:
But do they now?spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
"We've heard a lot about wanting a "zero-tariff, zero-quota" deal between the UK and the EU. Ceta does not do that.
Ceta gets rid of most, but not all, tariffs (that's taxes on imports) on goods traded between the EU and Canada. Tariffs remain on poultry, meat and eggs.
It also increases quotas (that's the amount of a product that can be exported without extra charges) but does not get rid of them altogether. For example, quotas on EU cheese exports to Canada increase from 18,500 tonnes to 31,972 tonnes a year.
It does little for the trade in services and in particular almost nothing for the trade in financial services, which is very important for the UK economy."
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What you think.spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
Canada as one example does not have free access.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
How are you getting on with the crowd funding for that time machine I suggested?rick_chasey said:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
How likely is that. Completely meaningless twaddle, if you are going to have a go at someone don’t try to make out you have bigger b*lls then they have when really you have no idea.spatt77 said:
doesnt mean i would`nt if asked though!webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
I suppose its a reasonable consolation prize.pblakeney said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Pah, mere details.pblakeney said:
What you think.spatt77 said:
But Canada, South Korea and Japan have free access! why cant we?pblakeney said:
But still wanting free access? Sticking to the cake and eat it plan?spatt77 said:
Every politician on either side said a vote to leave would mean leaving the SM @CU, , if you didn't see or hear this i suggest you weren't paying sufficient attention at the time!pblakeney said:
Which we were told at referendum time wouldn't happen.spatt77 said:
yeah , and they all involve leaving the SM @ CU!rick_chasey said:Plenty of ways to leave, Stevo...
I didn't believe then, and it gives me the right to whinge now. Liars.
No wonder the negotiations are doomed to failure.
Canada as one example does not have free access.0 -
I agree its a pointless argument but, as SC has already stated that he wouldn't of put his neck on the country which he lives in! I can state that!webboo said:
How likely is that. Completely meaningless twaddle, if you are going to have a go at someone don’t try to make out you have bigger b*lls then they have when really you have no idea.spatt77 said:
doesnt mean i would`nt if asked though!webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
absolutely fine with me. I am not a religious person so won't be laying my life down for any cause and especially not for our German royal family.spatt77 said:
I agree its a pointless argument but, as SC has already stated that he wouldn't of put his neck on the country which he lives in! I can state that!webboo said:
How likely is that. Completely meaningless twaddle, if you are going to have a go at someone don’t try to make out you have bigger b*lls then they have when really you have no idea.spatt77 said:
doesnt mean i would`nt if asked though!webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
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Nobody hopefully! just illustrating the point that sovereignty has no worth for SC, which is of course his prerogative but not mine!0
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They weren't in the EU. so there you go, thank you for proving my point.spatt77 said:
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
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Isn't it just another example of failed federalism?rick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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I was going for “UK balkanisation, accelerated by Brexit logic” but sure.TheBigBean said:
Isn't it just another example of failed federalism?rick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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and in case anybody is wondering if the Uk splinters I won't be killing my neighbours because they are now a different nationality to merick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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where is the rest coming from?coopster_the_1st said:0 -
I think Spatt takes a different view.surrey_commuter said:
and in case anybody is wondering if the Uk splinters I won't be killing my neighbours because they are now a different nationality to merick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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in fairness to him he only mentioned dying for his country not killing for itrick_chasey said:
I think Spatt takes a different view.surrey_commuter said:
and in case anybody is wondering if the Uk splinters I won't be killing my neighbours because they are now a different nationality to merick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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Well it was previously funded by the EU Horizon 2020 scheme but obviously that source of income has dried up and the U.K. govt was more interesting in spaffing it up on OneWeb which had “better looking returns” despite the fact it was a busted flush.Stevo_666 said:
How are you getting on with the crowd funding for that time machine I suggested?rick_chasey said:0 -
the funny thing is people think we will only lose half a billion dollarsrick_chasey said:
Well it was previously funded by the EU Horizon 2020 scheme but obviously that source of income has dried up and the U.K. govt was more interesting in spaffing it up on OneWeb which had “better looking returns” despite the fact it was a busted flush.Stevo_666 said:
How are you getting on with the crowd funding for that time machine I suggested?rick_chasey said:0 -
I actually think war is pretty pointless and should be avoided at all costs if possible but sometimes its necessary evil!rick_chasey said:
I think Spatt takes a different view.surrey_commuter said:
and in case anybody is wondering if the Uk splinters I won't be killing my neighbours because they are now a different nationality to merick_chasey said:Brexiter using a balkanisation example, how appropriate.
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And neither are the Ukraine however when theirs money involved there quite happy to poke there noses in! So thank you for proving my point!darkhairedlord said:
They weren't in the EU. so there you go, thank you for proving my point.spatt77 said:
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
Last time Brits were in the Crimea it didn’t end too wellspatt77 said:
And neither are the Ukraine however when theirs money involved there quite happy to poke there noses in! So thank you for proving my point!darkhairedlord said:
They weren't in the EU. so there you go, thank you for proving my point.spatt77 said:
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
How do you not know this?surrey_commuter said:0 -
not my circus, not my monkeyscoopster_the_1st said:
How do you not know this?surrey_commuter said:0 -
Can you re- phrase that in English please? I'm not sure if you are a liberal woke'tard or just illiterate.spatt77 said:
And neither are the Ukraine however when theirs money involved there quite happy to poke there noses in! So thank you for proving my point!darkhairedlord said:
They weren't in the EU. so there you go, thank you for proving my point.spatt77 said:
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0 -
You seem to resort to personal insults ? any particular reason? I work shifts so sometimes not at my best. Sorry my Grammar isn't of the standard you require!darkhairedlord said:
Can you re- phrase that in English please? I'm not sure if you are a liberal woke'tard or just illiterate.spatt77 said:
And neither are the Ukraine however when theirs money involved there quite happy to poke there noses in! So thank you for proving my point!darkhairedlord said:
They weren't in the EU. so there you go, thank you for proving my point.spatt77 said:
Bringing Peace in Europe eh? Tell that to the thousands that died in the Balkans war eh!darkhairedlord said:
That's the EU for you, bringing peace and cooperation to a continent, stopping twatt77 from dying in another european conflict.webboo said:
I suspect that you haven’t fought in any European wars either.spatt77 said:
Indeed, because its all about money for SC! Hes quite happy to live in a democratic country that others have fought for and lost there lives but would`nt lift a finger if the same was happening again!coopster_the_1st said:
His graph will ignore then tens if not hundreds of billions we would have had to pay into the EU's Coronavirus bailouts. But he will lie and try to convince you that we are poorer from leaving because you do not understand economics like he doesspatt77 said:
well Im glad the penny's finally dropped! but Im sure you'll knock me a graph up about how much poorer I`ll be no doubt!surrey_commuter said:
I am starting to understand why you voted Leavespatt77 said:
We`ll still have full access to it! just with quotas and tariffs if the EU want them.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It does seem that some of us will never make the journey from voting to accepting democratic outcomesbriantrumpet said:We should remember that Stevo's journey from Remainer to "No Deal Is Fine" has mirrored the Telegraph's almost exactly, in real time. Make of that what you will.
Part of that 'democratic outcome' should have included reference to the oft-repeated statements that "no-one's suggesting leaving the Single Market". Democracy seems to be a very flexible thing to the 'winners'.0
