Giro Pre Race Chat

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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    The double bedroom has plenty of cupboard space and provides familiar surroundings for each day of the race
    Witless, squalid extravagance.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Squalid extravagance?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Amazing that the general feeling is so sure that a 57kg (probably 56kg by the start of the TT) rider will put several minutes into a 65kg rider who is a future multiple GT winner.

    So true man it's all about the weight. You're expecting the heavier Aru to beat Uran right? Personally I think Greipel will beat them both. Because he's heavier.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    I'm really interested where your obsession with Portes weight has come from FF. I guess it must be the same place where these mythical fans live.

    He comes from a TT background so has developed the skills and physiology of a TTer. Now he has reduced body fat %age to as low as it can go (arguably too low for general health) but that won't have affected how his muscles push on the pedals. Most people are of the opinion that I'd be a lot better cyclist if I lost weight...
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Amazing that the general feeling is so sure that a 57kg (probably 56kg by the start of the TT) rider will put several minutes into a 65kg rider who is a future multiple GT winner.
    Are we really supposed to believe Aru is carrying almost 10kg more than Porte? Especially after his recent bout of illness and the apparent associated 5kg weight loss?
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Porte got a helicopter ride to avoid that 5hr transfer.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    edited May 2015
    ddraver wrote:
    Squalid extravagance?

    Unseemly, in your face, loadsamoney, Eastenders make-up trailer, The Special One... And never forget that the most important thing in sport is building teams:
    "I know you had a shitty night Kiry, but one more time for Little Richard"
    "Sorry G. We'd love to pay you more but the cupboard is bare. How about your loyalty to the team that made you?"
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Porte got a helicopter ride to avoid that 5hr transfer.
    Marginal planes?
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    So I am glad we all agree that based on past performances in three week races, Aru should be much more likely to win the Giro then Porte.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Only having one GT top ten finish in his career, Porte was keen to ask Contador some advice on how to achieve it.

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  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    So I am glad we all agree that based on past performances in three week races, Aru should be much more likely to win the Giro then Porte.

    Some advice:

    Stick to posting photo's which you are good at.

    Leave out your myopic, biased and insinuating comments as they risk spoiling threads on what has been a fascinating race so far!!!
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    So I am glad we all agree that based on past performances in three week races, Aru should be much more likely to win the Giro then Porte.

    Some advice:

    Stick to posting photo's which you are good at.

    Leave out your myopic, biased and insinuating comments as they risk spoiling threads on what has been a fascinating race so far!!!

    Some advice:

    Keep your comments such as the above to yourself and try and add some comments that people can actually draw utility from.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
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    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Richie's lavish accomodation. The team really need to be called to account on this obscene waste.

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    The team really need to be held to account for a shocking approach to interior design. Like Bertie's shoes it's hideous!

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    I think I'd prefer a hotel over that. I couldn't sleep amongst all that mock-wood paneling.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Macaloon wrote:
    Richie's lavish accomodation. The team really need to be called to account on this obscene waste.
    It cost 125k. Oleg Tinkov gives Peter Sagan that much every eleven days.

    They've also got a mobile restaurant

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    It is funny the attachment that pro-cycling seems to have to the idea of riders sleeping in shared hotel rooms.

    I'm barely paid the minimum UCI wage and my work would never expect me to sleep in a room with a colleague.

    Everyone is going on about what this will do for team morale. Yes it may well make other members of the team feel jealous, but if they can see the benefit to the 'team ' and thus to them and their pockets of this then maybe they don't mind. In addition sharing hotels is not always the great team building exercise people assume it to be. What's the difference of Porte sleeping alone in a hotel room and alone in this in the car park? If it makes Porte a happier camper then maybe they actually prefer it.

    Where was the outrage about Bertie sleeping the night in Tinkoff's extravagant* Tuscan villa?


    *While I can't account for Oleg's taste in interior decor, I'm sure his villa is considerably more lavish than this Porteacabin.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    In the TTs Contador and Porte have both raced (not too many), the score is 4 vs 3 to Contador.

    It really is amazing that the general consensus is that Porte will bury my men.

    If Contador performs badly then it will be entirely due to his injured shoulder.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    In the TTs Contador and Porte have both raced (not too many), the score is 4 vs 3 to Contador.

    It really is amazing that the general consensus is that Porte will bury my men.

    If Contador performs badly then it will be entirely due to his injured shoulder.
    No-one has said that Porte will bury Contador. At best the majority give him a slight edge. It's Aru that people think he'll bury - with good reason.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    In the TTs Contador and Porte have both raced (not too many), the score is 4 vs 3 to Contador.

    It really is amazing that the general consensus is that Porte will bury my men.

    If Contador performs badly then it will be entirely due to his injured shoulder.

    In the TTs that Porte has raced as leader he has had far better results than those he wasn't leader. Unfortunately there is no Bert v Porte comparison on those.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    Richie's lavish accomodation. The team really need to be called to account on this obscene waste.
    It cost 125k. Oleg Tinkov gives Peter Sagan that much every eleven days.

    I was thinking more about the environmental impact of dragging a bus across Europe for a month for one guy. It's unjustifiable on any basis.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I've just been looking for a video or a picture of that hilarious time MY MAN Richie passed Bertie in the Dauphine 2013 TT.

    Can't find one :x
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Macaloon wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    Richie's lavish accomodation. The team really need to be called to account on this obscene waste.
    It cost 125k. Oleg Tinkov gives Peter Sagan that much every eleven days.

    I was thinking more about the environmental impact of dragging a bus across Europe for a month for one guy. It's unjustifiable on any basis.

    If it's environmental impact that's the problem then road cycling - with the team cars, the caravans, the TV helicopters, the international flights - might as well give up and everyone should just ride on the track.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    Macaloon wrote:
    I was thinking more about the environmental impact of dragging a bus across Europe for a month for one guy. It's unjustifiable on any basis.

    On that basis then maybe we should just abolish pro cycling, or pro sport in general.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    edited May 2015
    We can consume a bit less without going back to the stone age. Team marginal waste is it now? Bunch of cavepeople.

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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Macaloon wrote:
    I was thinking more about the environmental impact of dragging a bus across Europe for a month for one guy. It's unjustifiable on any basis.

    On that basis then maybe we should just abolish pro cycling, or pro sport in general.

    Come on, these guys cycle everywhere!! ;)
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    It is funny the attachment that pro-cycling seems to have to the idea of riders sleeping in shared hotel rooms.

    I'm barely paid the minimum UCI wage and my work would never expect me to sleep in a room with a colleague.

    I'm pretty sure we're not even allowed to share hotel rooms at work.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Macaloon wrote:
    We can consume a bit less without going back to the stoneage. Team marginal waste is it now? Bunch of cavepeople.

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    I'm getting the impression you aren't a Sky fanboy.
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    In the TTs Contador and Porte have both raced (not too many), the score is 4 vs 3 to Contador.

    It really is amazing that the general consensus is that Porte will bury my men.

    If Contador performs badly then it will be entirely due to his injured shoulder.

    Isn't Porte Australian TT champ having beaten former Hour record holder Rohan Dennis into 2nd place? that seems a sound enough logic for believing Porte is currently the better TT'er
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