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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Kerrisson q and a on Porte us worth a read:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tim-ker ... ed-in-2012

    Two points to mention:
    Given he only weighs a Rujano and Pozzo level of weight now his TT should suffer significantly so dont hold out hopes of this 58kg rider putting minutes into Contador.
    Sky are piloting a new project where the team leader sleeps in a camper van as many nights as possible. This seems to be better manage disruption from hotels and also a psychological aspect. Also says that Richie prefers to be by himself then with his team members.
    "Camper van" is underplaying it somewhat.

    This is the actual mobile home he's using (not the same model, the actual one) http://www.empirerv.co.uk/vehicle/fleet ... rettyPhoto

    It's certainly a hell of a lot better than the average hotel room they stay in

    Wow that is unreal. Cannot believe they give that to one man. Must be the Conservative elitism. Hope he gets ripped to shreds from the Pinto pistelero who clawed his way out of poverty.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    In more important news, Contador is indeed wearing those black shoes. This is really quite a problem for the photos. Bloody American sponsors.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Kerrisson q and a on Porte us worth a read:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tim-ker ... ed-in-2012

    Two points to mention:
    Given he only weighs a Rujano and Pozzo level of weight now his TT should suffer significantly so dont hold out hopes of this 58kg rider putting minutes into Contador.
    Sky are piloting a new project where the team leader sleeps in a camper van as many nights as possible. This seems to be better manage disruption from hotels and also a psychological aspect. Also says that Richie prefers to be by himself then with his team members.
    "Camper van" is underplaying it somewhat.

    This is the actual mobile home he's using (not the same model, the actual one) http://www.empirerv.co.uk/vehicle/fleet ... rettyPhoto

    It's certainly a hell of a lot better than the average hotel room they stay in

    It's decent enough. Rumour is Richie Porte is of pikey stock and prefers the homely feel of a caravan.

    Oooh Hey budddy! How are you doing?

    Judging from the interior, they probably picked it up good and cheap...

    All the kidz want converted VW Transporters now anyway

    (conservative elitism?)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Wow, Richie Porte seems to be capable of being all things to all men, a conservative elite and Roma.

    Amazing, how does he do it?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Like the Toblerone itself - seen as both bourgeois and flashy chav at the same time.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    He'd be the perfect NuLabour Leader...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Pillows, mattresses, caravans: Team Ideal Homes Show.

    FFS.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RonB wrote:
    Like the Toblerone itself - seen as both bourgeois and flashy chav at the same time.

    Diversity. It's what you need to be a GC contender.
    ddraver wrote:
    He'd be the perfect NuLabour Leader...

    Ha!
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    If that is being used just to accommodate a single rider I think it is offensively extravagant and excessive
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    It is. But Brailsford's logic is that Porte would be in a hotel room by himself anyway and he eats with the team so it is ok.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    If that is being used just to accommodate a single rider I think it is offensively extravagant and excessive
    Never mind the dough, I'd be as embarrassed as a Londoner in a stealth Range Rover at the conspicuous consumption of energy and noxious emissions. I guess Richie feels he's worth a bigger carbon footprint. The team have always lavished personal coaches on their favourite riders after all.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    It's a big outlay for this particular marginal gain. Hey ho, let's see if it has the desired effect.

    Hopefully it won't be seen with the rear end hanging over the edge of a mountain pass with Richie at the far end and Brailsford lying face down trying to reach him saying "Hang on lads I've had a great idea"
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    'You were only supposed to blow Porte's doors off.'

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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Macaloon wrote:
    'You were only supposed to blow Porte's doors off.'

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    Brilliant!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Robbie McEwen @mcewenrobbie · May 10
    After Viviani’s #Giro stage win, team asked if he’d like to move in to @richie_porte’s motorhome. he said, “no, i fkn hate Pikeys” #snatch
    Contador is the Greatest
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Dirk Hofman Motorhomes long term obscure marketing strategy will suddenly seem like genius when all the teams start copying...
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Dirk Hofman Motorhomes long term obscure marketing strategy will suddenly seem like genius when all the teams start copying...


    He he he he.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Haven't watched one mile yet.
    Will need to get caught up.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    ddraver wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Kerrisson q and a on Porte us worth a read:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tim-ker ... ed-in-2012

    Two points to mention:
    Given he only weighs a Rujano and Pozzo level of weight now his TT should suffer significantly so dont hold out hopes of this 58kg rider putting minutes into Contador.
    Sky are piloting a new project where the team leader sleeps in a camper van as many nights as possible. This seems to be better manage disruption from hotels and also a psychological aspect. Also says that Richie prefers to be by himself then with his team members.
    "Camper van" is underplaying it somewhat.

    This is the actual mobile home he's using (not the same model, the actual one) http://www.empirerv.co.uk/vehicle/fleet ... rettyPhoto

    It's certainly a hell of a lot better than the average hotel room they stay in

    It's decent enough. Rumour is Richie Porte is of pikey stock and prefers the homely feel of a caravan.

    Oooh Hey budddy! How are you doing?

    Judging from the interior, they probably picked it up good and cheap...

    All the kidz want converted VW Transporters now anyway

    (conservative elitism?)

    Seems quite cheap for what it is. I don't quite get it though, I imagine it's noisier in the car park than in the hotel.
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Stage 11 runs down the east coast and looks to have echelon potential if an easterly wind blows. Forecast is for ESE wind direction so promising but unfortunately only 4mph :(
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    2nd week will be very dull compared to the week we just had.
    _
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Contador faces the calamity of losing to two different Sky riders: Brailsford 2 | 0 Tinkov. What a way to end an illustrious career.

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    What's the point of a Boonen in a GT if not to smuggle RIgo away on Wednesday:
    tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_11.jpg
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Question, why is only the third of four climbs on that stage classified? Surely they'll have all the bunting up each time, but they're only counting the points on one go.

    More craziness from the Giro, seem to remember Cav sprinting for points each lap in Trieste the other year...
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Uran's 2014 Giro TT exploits: 3 mins into Aru. What will Richie do?
    At 59.4km the tough individual time trial is Uran’s lifeline. Over a year ago that would have sounded like a rather peculiar statement but in last year’s rolling test to Barolo, Uran decimated the field with a time trialing master class. He came into the stage second overall, 57 seconds down on Cadel Evans’ maglia rosa, and 42 seconds up Aru. By the end of the day Uran was in pink, Evans was 37 down and Aru way back at 3:37.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    He didn't do too badly in 2013 on the stage Alex Dowsett won.

    That was over 52 k, rolling terrain and he lost two minutes 44. In the Vuelta last year which was up and down a climb and a bit of flat (the reverse of Saturday's stage) he lost 2 mins to Tony M.

    As I said on another thread, I think he'll lose around 2 and a half to the stage winner, 2 minutes to Porte (if he's not the stage winner) and 90 seconds to Contador
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Amazing that the general feeling is so sure that a 57kg (probably 56kg by the start of the TT) rider will put several minutes into a 65kg rider who is a future multiple GT winner.

    Aru has shown world class form since he got on the bike. Porte has only got one top ten (7th) in a GT and he is 30. Aru is 24 and has a THIRD and FIFTH in a GT in the same year.

    So if Porte beats Aru it will be highly unusual.

    nb. 3rd behind uber GT heavyweight Quintana and solid Uran and 5th behind all time greatest Contador, ferocious Froome, all round victor Valverde and raging Rodriguez.

    The guy is pure talent and exciting into the bargain. My man from 2011.
    Giro-della-Valle-dAosta-Aru.jpg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Inside The Titch's quarters:
    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/g ... ome-172385
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Contador rest day comments:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contado ... ro-ditalia
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Domenico Pozzovivo walked into the #Giro press room to applause yesterday. Great to see him up and about after his frightening crash last week. Photo: @caleyfretz

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    Contador is the Greatest
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Amazing that the general feeling is so sure that a 57kg (probably 56kg by the start of the TT) rider will put several minutes into a 65kg rider who is a future multiple GT winner.
    Porte has seven pro victories in time trials, and 26 TTs in the top five.

    Aru's best result is 16th
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