So Wiggos now gone...
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frenchfighter wrote:ddraver wrote:Why would the Yates' leave a ProTour team for a development team?!?
Like Yates. Not Yates actual.
Birks is riding for them no? He won a road race I was in solo after catching the break for 3 minutes on his own too. He was 17."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Sounds like a good guy. I have not looked at their team list and couldn't care less who is on it either. I do not follow domestic cycling in the UK and it is not televised either.
Exploits often got heard of though. Such as Merckx like Eddie Dunbar's.Contador is the Greatest0 -
The_Boy wrote:So is he definitely joining Team Wiggins then? I've been having a quick look at their line-up and with the exception of Doull it's a little uninspiring if I'm honest.
Andy Tennant is a ex World Champion
Stephen Burke a Olympic Gold Medallist2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
The_Boy wrote:Pross wrote:The_Boy wrote:So is he definitely joining Team Wiggins then? I've been having a quick look at their line-up and with the exception of Doull it's a little uninspiring if I'm honest.
It's a development team made up generally of riders in and around the GB academy set up. Mark Christian is a solid roadie, the others are mainly track biased. I don't think they're aim is to set the road race scene alight TBH.
Yeah, I get that they're a development team, it's just that it looks to contain a few journeymen* type riders which I thought odd. I'm just struggling to see where Wiggins fits in. As a rider I mean.
*For want of a better word. I'm not going out of my way to be mean here.
Who in the team (other than Wiggo himself now I guess) would you describe as journeymen? I don't see anyone on the roster counting the clock down on their career. IMO they are riders still looking to personally achieve more. Just because they haven't made WT level at 20 years of age doesn't mean they aren't progressing as riders.0 -
I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"0 -
Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.0 -
Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
This is important information. I've got right off GVA now, and Sep. Tyler Farrar has gone up again in my estimation, I didn't have much time for him before he joined Qhubeka, but now I hear he waves back as well... :-)Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
This is important information. I've got right off GVA now, and Sep. Tyler Farrar has gone up again in my estimation, I didn't have much time for him before he joined Qhubeka, but now I hear he waves back as well... :-)
I understand Boodism takes waving very seriously. It influences your next re-incarnation. GVA is officially a tw@t now0 -
...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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Yellow Peril wrote:The_Boy wrote:Pross wrote:The_Boy wrote:So is he definitely joining Team Wiggins then? I've been having a quick look at their line-up and with the exception of Doull it's a little uninspiring if I'm honest.
It's a development team made up generally of riders in and around the GB academy set up. Mark Christian is a solid roadie, the others are mainly track biased. I don't think they're aim is to set the road race scene alight TBH.
Yeah, I get that they're a development team, it's just that it looks to contain a few journeymen* type riders which I thought odd. I'm just struggling to see where Wiggins fits in. As a rider I mean.
*For want of a better word. I'm not going out of my way to be mean here.
Who in the team (other than Wiggo himself now I guess) would you describe as journeymen? I don't see anyone on the roster counting the clock down on their career. IMO they are riders still looking to personally achieve more. Just because they haven't made WT level at 20 years of age doesn't mean they aren't progressing as riders.
See me post immediately after the one you quoted. I had a quick look at the squad and saw guys like Burke and Patten who are late 20s then misread a bunch of other DOBs which made me think it was Doull, Dibben and a half a dozen guys in their late 20s/early 30s. Not a bad thing per se but not really what you would expect from a development squad of nine.
Obviously, a closer look (with glasses) has revealed my mistake and the reality is much more in line with what I was expecting - a group of young guys in the 93-95 range a a handful of more experienced riders to show them the ropes.
I'm still not sure where Wiggins fits in as a rider, but that's will presumably become clear as the season develops.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
The_Boy wrote:I'm still not sure where Wiggins fits in as a rider, but that's will presumably become clear as the season develops.
3rd or 4th man in the TP squad presumably. I thought Team Wiggo was simply a mechanism for the GB track endurance riders to race on the road away from the domestic scene to maximise the chances of success in the TP in Rio.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
To be fair though you actually have a rational reason to dislike GVA, I have no reason other than I don't like his face.Correlation is not causation.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
Goat, I need to know is my man De Gendt a waver?0 -
DELETE.Correlation is not causation.0
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Wallace and Gromit wrote:The_Boy wrote:I'm still not sure where Wiggins fits in as a rider, but that's will presumably become clear as the season develops.
3rd or 4th man in the TP squad presumably. I thought Team Wiggo was simply a mechanism for the GB track endurance riders to race on the road away from the domestic scene to maximise the chances of success in the TP in Rio.
Ah, I think I may have understood the point of the project then. I had thought it was a road project - sort of a Sky feeder team but not iyswim?Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
Goat, I need to know is my man De Gendt a waver?
I thought I was the only one who had him as my man!
He lives in the next village over from us and is not only a waver, but he'll give you a "Yo" when he passes. For this, he is my mannest of man"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
Goat, I need to know is my man De Gendt a waver?
I thought I was the only one who had him as my man!
He lives in the next village over from us and is not only a waver, but he'll give you a "Yo" when he passes. For this, he is my mannest of man
You should ask him for sausage suggestions.Correlation is not causation.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:I saw a mob of GB age group riders out on a bunch ride yesterday and not one of them returned my cheery wave. On this basis I hope their fancy development team is taken away and only given back when they learn some manners.
I think young pros take themselves too seriously and they consider such things as "uncool"
Most of the pro guys round here are pretty decent for it, provided you don't take the p!as with wheelsucking on the canal path. I've even swapped turns with Van Petegem along there, until he decided he wanted to go hard.
GVA and Vanmarcke are fellow non wavers, though. For this reason, I share ATC's opinion of GVA.
It's brilliant that you get to see riders of such quality out and about. You should get a camera fitted to your bike (Goat-Pro) and post clips of those you come across.
I think I'm the only one who's impressed!
Friday before Flanders on that path we saw all of Giant (wavers), Step and Wynants (non wavers), Farrar (waver) and some orica women (wavers)! Its not usually that busy though.
You can quite regularly see Farrar, De Gendt, Keisse, Benoot, Devenyns, Van Petegem and sometimes even Godefroot. All wavers.
Goat, I need to know is my man De Gendt a waver?
I thought I was the only one who had him as my man!
He lives in the next village over from us and is not only a waver, but he'll give you a "Yo" when he passes. For this, he is my mannest of man
Oh no he's one of mine as well. Happy to share him, there's enough to go round. That Giro stage is what made him one of mine. Great news that he's a waver as well.0 -
Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting.
Is there an english version anywhere?
That stage was perfect. I just wish he had got the jersey. True champions performance.0 -
sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting.
Is there an english version anywhere?
That stage was perfect. I just wish he had got the jersey. True champions performance.
If you'll indulge me, and give me a couple of days, I can try and translate it for you. It'll be good for my Dutch and your Fandom!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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How ironic would it be if Valverde stopped you and went tongues in when he was passing the other way?0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting.
Is there an english version anywhere?
That stage was perfect. I just wish he had got the jersey. True champions performance.
If you'll indulge me, and give me a couple of days, I can try and translate it for you. It'll be good for my Dutch and your Fandom!
Fantastic. Thank you so much. Can't wait to read it.0 -
sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting.
Is there an english version anywhere?
That stage was perfect. I just wish he had got the jersey. True champions performance.
If you'll indulge me, and give me a couple of days, I can try and translate it for you. It'll be good for my Dutch and your Fandom!
Fantastic. Thank you so much. Can't wait to read it.
I'll get started tonight and PM it at some point this week."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:sjmclean wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Fancy Belgian cycling sheet Bahamontes had him talking through the video of that stage, really interesting.
Is there an english version anywhere?
That stage was perfect. I just wish he had got the jersey. True champions performance.
If you'll indulge me, and give me a couple of days, I can try and translate it for you. It'll be good for my Dutch and your Fandom!
Fantastic. Thank you so much. Can't wait to read it.
I'll get started tonight and PM it at some point this week.
Share the love.
edit: or what ddraver said.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0
