The Cycling Podcast
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Same, they're making my morning drive much more bearable!0
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It's good, even with the stereotypical Italian.0
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I'm not going to pick favourites, but I like the podcast so much I bought a Lionel Dove Siamo t-shirt without knowing when I would wear it. Orla Chennaoui and Ned Boulting are good when then make an appearance.0
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Has everyone come over shy because one of them posted on here once?
The particular giro dynamic between Friebe and Lionel was entertaining. Lionel being the newbie to the Giro, Friebe getting a bit overexcited. Not sure that would necessarily work outside of Italy but was good.
Ultimately this podcast wins over others because of the behind the scenes goss and the interviews /access they get.
For me the "discussions" are the weakest part, particularly when they have as much info as we do.
I do find the Ciro stuff tiresome; his English just isn't good enough and he won't divulge enough to warrant the effort.
The cultural stuff they do is very welcome. It was always part of the Dutch coverage I watched as a kid and for me that's part of the value of GTs. The "what is this part of the world like?" Take on it.
Friebe is obviously the best because ultimately he tells us the stuff we don't know. And I bloody love a goss.0 -
Yes the cultural bits/km0 really make it for me.
Makes you feel much more immersed in the race.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Has everyone come over shy because one of them posted on here once?
well no, I just don't feel the need to pick holes in everything...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I quite enjoy when you get some solo Lionel action (KM0, or his Tale of the Tappa) where he sounds like a Quiet Storm DJ at 2:30 in the morning.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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I've got to say I enjoy Ciro, Rick, for the pure slapstick nature of it. The scene of him meeting Pippo at the bus when he nearly won the other day was priceless.
The 'argument' they had last night about the tactics for today's stage is what I enjoy most, and I particularly enjoyed the 'discussion' between Lionel and Richard about Valverde losing 9 seconds in a split.0 -
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I love Ciro. He's very entertaining and his English is better than my Italian.Rick Chasey wrote:Has everyone come over shy because one of them posted on here once?
The particular giro dynamic between Friebe and Lionel was entertaining. Lionel being the newbie to the Giro, Friebe getting a bit overexcited. Not sure that would necessarily work outside of Italy but was good.
Ultimately this podcast wins over others because of the behind the scenes goss and the interviews /access they get.
For me the "discussions" are the weakest part, particularly when they have as much info as we do.
I do find the Ciro stuff tiresome; his English just isn't good enough and he won't divulge enough to warrant the effort.
The cultural stuff they do is very welcome. It was always part of the Dutch coverage I watched as a kid and for me that's part of the value of GTs. The "what is this part of the world like?" Take on it.
Friebe is obviously the best because ultimately he tells us the stuff we don't know. And I bloody love a goss.
I want one of those No Ciro, No Giro! T-shirts.
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curium wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Has everyone come over shy because one of them posted on here once?
The particular giro dynamic between Friebe and Lionel was entertaining. Lionel being the newbie to the Giro, Friebe getting a bit overexcited. Not sure that would necessarily work outside of Italy but was good.
Ultimately this podcast wins over others because of the behind the scenes goss and the interviews /access they get.
For me the "discussions" are the weakest part, particularly when they have as much info as we do.
I do find the Ciro stuff tiresome; his English just isn't good enough and he won't divulge enough to warrant the effort.
The cultural stuff they do is very welcome. It was always part of the Dutch coverage I watched as a kid and for me that's part of the value of GTs. The "what is this part of the world like?" Take on it.
Friebe is obviously the best because ultimately he tells us the stuff we don't know. And I bloody love a goss.
I love Ciro. He's very entertaining and his English is better than my Italian.
I want one of those
https://twitter.com/friebos/status/736882650540081153
I'd like one of those No Ciro, No Ciro! T-shirts.
He's a buffoon.0 -
The Boris Johnson of pro cycling.
Or is that Vino?0 -
Ah don't troll.
If you're on a podcast, being able to speak the language is kinda a prerequisite.
Bit like a writer being able to write.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Ah don't troll.
If you're on a podcast, being able to speak the language is kinda a prerequisite.
Bit like a writer being able to write.
Troll? Me? How very dare you!
Personally don't have any issue with dem furrin accents on da podcast innat. Add some local colour.
There was a similar complaint wee while back on another thread, the commentator one?, whingeing about Sean Kelly's accent. Again no prob for me, perfectly understandable0 -
It's not the accent.
I've seen the guy live for a few hours. He struggles with english, often doesn't know the words, and it's increasingly just a window shop for gone-on-for-too-long jokes and his column which he refuses to give any preview to.
I don't doubt the guy's a good journalist. From the few articles I've struggled through with very weak Italian he gets some serious scoops, does decent work, and is generally very interesting.
Unfortunately none of that translates to the podcast.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:It's not the accent.
I've seen the guy live for a few hours. He struggles with english, often doesn't know the words, and it's increasingly just a window shop for gone-on-for-too-long jokes and his column which he refuses to give any preview to.
I don't doubt the guy's a good journalist. From the few articles I've struggled through with very weak Italian he gets some serious scoops, does decent work, and is generally very interesting.
Unfortunately none of that translates to the podcast.
I'll need to disagree with you - he's been a highlight of the podcasts for me. Horses for courses and all that.0 -
Ok, answer me this.
Other than light relief with the rather long running jokes about beaches (which sounds like bitches, which I presume is half the joke..), and Pozzato, what value does he add, content wise?
He's always very evasive with his answers, and usually ends up giving a jokey answer to avoid actually answering. The guy knows an awful lot about Nibali and the rest of Italian cycling and we don't really get any of it.0 -
Straight answer? Italian? Eh?
Light relief it is. Take your point that a lengthy in person sesh would be whole different experience to 3 minutes of jokery.
Noted that Daniel F reined him back from the funnies during one or other of the last Giro episodes.0 -
He pops in for small segments of the podcast. He just adds to the entertainment. A bit like Lionel and his cassoulet obsession during the Tour.Rick Chasey wrote:Ok, answer me this.
Other than light relief with the rather long running jokes about beaches (which sounds like bitches, which I presume is half the joke..), and Pozzato, what value does he add, content wise?
He's always very evasive with his answers, and usually ends up giving a jokey answer to avoid actually answering. The guy knows an awful lot about Nibali and the rest of Italian cycling and we don't really get any of it.0 -
He makes me want to switch off tbh. It was fine once but lost allure very quickly.0
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You're right, Rick, in that he's basically comic relief, and it could slide into annoying self-parody, but for me at least, they've got the Ciro balance about right. Adds a bit of light and shade to the overall package without detracting too much. And he's going to be much more strongly represented at the Giro.
But do share your desire to tap in much more to his knowledge of Italian cycling.@shraap | My Men 2016: G, Yogi, Cav, Boonen, Degenkolb, Martin, J-Rod, Kudus, Chaves0 -
GrumpoJoelsim wrote:He makes me want to switch off tbh. It was fine once but lost allure very quickly. 0 -
Thought the Giro stuff was excellent overall - do agree that Ciro does appear to be slipping into a bit of self-parody now - probably only needed / had him on as much as they did because it was the Giro.
Come the tour when Nibali is not likely to win and they have a wider selection of guests (due to a higher presence of English-language media at the TDF) he will hopefully only make appearances when relevant.
The French guy they had during the tour last year (can't recall his name without checking) was very good I thought, and the Dutch guy this time.
I assume one of the reasons for most of the Giro coverage being 2 out of the 3 of the team was cost - at the tour they're all writing for magazines and in some cases newspapers as well as doing their own thing. Less commissions relating to the Giro would mean they're less able to spread the cost of having 3 of them on the road and in hotels / restaurants for 3 weeks.
Whilst they're not 'pundits' as such and are not on TV (but are now effectively broadcasting) it highlights how embarrassingly poor a lot of UK sports coverage is - especially the 'old boys club' that is football co-commentators and pundits / analysts. The 1 dimensional idiots you get on talk-sport etc are shocking.
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Pairing - Friebe & Birnie - the high knowledge from one and the querying newness of the other played well IMO.
Individual - Friebe - just knows his stuff and was in his element. Think he maybe finds the Tour a bit over-hyped.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Think Birnie's contributions are underrated - his daily summary of the stage is superbly succint without missing out on any of the important details. A very difficult skill.0
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He came through the traditional journo career path of working for the local paper. Good old fashioned reporting skills.stagehopper wrote:Think Birnie's contributions are underrated - his daily summary of the stage is superbly succint without missing out on any of the important details. A very difficult skill.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Its the elephant in the room, but how bad was that folk music they used?0
