2014 Worlds

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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Joelsim wrote:
    That miserable chump Evans can't be considered in the same league as Wiggo. Legend.

    And nothing wrong with having a few beers to celebrate.

    I presume you're trolling.
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  • RichN95 wrote:
    Which rider who turned pro since 2000 can match the breadth of his palmares?
    Cadel Evans

    Good shout. But if you said who's better Evans or Wiggo, most would say Wiggo wouldn't they?

    Also they've both done it with hardly a credible hint of doping, which makes their achievements all the more impressive in this era.
    Don't know about most, but I'd certainly say Evans. That isn't to say Wiggins' is a poor career by any means.

    FWIW, the only thing I find offensive in that photograph is that the bottle is only the size of a fist...
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    The limitation to Evans results is that he was frequently the bridesmaid to known dopers. Wiggins avoided that issue by racing track during that era. Both could have done a lot more under different circumstances but both have impressive palmares despite this. Glad Wiggo is going for the hour. I've been saying it for years and always got poo pooed.
  • Wiggins wins a race, cue 5 pages. I guess he doesn't win often.

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    Anyone know the story behind the knee strapping/bandage?

    He was quote clearly below par. You could tell that from the TTT as well...there was some rain but have a look at Time Trial Tony's TT time last year and compare that to the TTT times last year. he beat Wiggins by 46 secs last year. Wiggins putting on some weight, dropping out of RR and basically focusing on going fast in a TT/Pursuit etc is not taking 90 secs out of Big Tone. The guy held off the entire TdF peloton, solo, over mountains. Very few men alive can do that, although I would LOVE to see Wiggins use that skill when he used to RR. Mentioned that before.

    “I know that almost everyone expected me to win, but I always said a few riders, especially Bradley, always have a big chance. I already felt tired in the team time trial. For sure it wasn't best for the morale and preparation for today. I was a little tired also today and I think that was the biggest factor. I couldn't battle Bradley in the final of this race with my condition. Now I have to analyze and do better next year. Congratulations to Bradley as he is a great talent in this discipline and deserves to be world champion."

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited September 2014
    I mentioned it before in this thread but does anyone know why Wiggins was on standard rings and not those odd o-rings?

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    Martin had a 58T...possibly too large on this occasion.
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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Delighted to see Wiggins win.

    FF- to be fair it's five pages if Wiggins wins and five pages if he pootles around and can't be bothered.

    Nice comments from Tony Martin.
  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    I read the OPQS site last night and there was a much longer Martin quote up which focused much more on how tired he was and the impact of the TTT on his performance.
  • Nice to see that TM is able to be more magnanimous than FF.
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  • tom3
    tom3 Posts: 287
    I thought Tony Martin was going to cry on the podium, the poor lad looked lost.

    The difference in Wiggins strength and conditioning this year, compared to last is there for all to see. He may claim to be at tour weight but his body has transformed, much more upper body mass/strength and leg size. He has obviously been combining the gym and track quite a bit since the TOC.

    Martin looked to be spinning more than Wiggo to me, which is strange as it is normally the other way around.

    Lets be honest too, had Wiggo gone through to the WC TT in 2012, he would have two golds and two silvers to his name.
  • tom3 wrote:
    Martin looked to be spinning more than Wiggo to me, which is strange as it is normally the other way around.

    Completely at odds with a 58T, what I saw and what the French commentators mentioned several times.
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  • tom3
    tom3 Posts: 287
    Only calling what I was watching live.

    Wiggo just looked to be pushing a smooth but big gear at a lower cadence.

    Martin just looked a mess
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  • menthel
    menthel Posts: 2,484
    Good performance from Wiggins to win- he had to be on top of his game to have any chance of beating Tony Martin. I don't anything wrong with him focusing on a single event at this stage of his career- he wanted to win it and doesn't really have anything else to prove. I did feel sorry for Martin though, watching the highlights he didn't look like his usual self and he just looked destroyed at the presentation. If he had been in better shape it would have been much closer. Still, he does have that superb solo stage win from this year as a highlight- what an effort that was!

    Demoulin looked rather happy to be on the podium too, nice performance from him.
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  • thegibdog wrote:
    Wiggins is the only man to have won the Tour de France and to have been an Olympic and world champion on both the road and the track. Not bad.

    Sounds good when you put it like that :-)
  • TimB34
    TimB34 Posts: 316
    I mentioned it before in this thread but does anyone know why Wiggins was on standard rings and not those odd o-rings?

    I seem to remember that he hasn't used oval rings for a while (since at least the Giro last year). I'm sure he was quoted as saying something about "funny chainrings" after he'd gone back to round ones but can't find it.

    Anyway, huge win for him. Just a shame that he's given up stage racing - he might never wear his rainbow stripes in competition (unless he does the Nationals next year) !
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    tom3 wrote:
    Martin just looked a mess
    Laying it all on the road as usual. The man is a monster.

    Easy of course to look relaxed when 40 seconds up like last year. Not so easy when down at the second split and getting further back with every pedal stroke.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    Compare and contrast:

    2014
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    2013
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  • Daz555 wrote:
    Easy of course to look relaxed when 40 seconds up like last year. Not so easy when down at the second split and getting further back with every pedal stroke.

    I recall the 2011 WC ITT when Wiggo and Cancellara were in a dog-fight for silver. Cancellara's was pushing so hard that he put himself into the barriers near the end, so even the best pedalling actions and bike-handling can break down under pressure.

    Dennis was another one who went from silky smooth to ragged as he was chasing things in the second half yesterday.

    On top of all his other achievements, I still think Wiggo looks better on a bike than anyone else. (Except Victoria Pendleton, but that's for other reasons!)

    As an aside, Rob Hayles was highlighting on the BBC commentary yesterday that full on TTs are never comfortable, despite the top exponents looking like they're out for a training spin in the early stages. (This accords with my own experience, without the "top exponent" element.) The official BC approved term for how the effort should feel is apparently "sustainable".
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    TimB34 wrote:
    I mentioned it before in this thread but does anyone know why Wiggins was on standard rings and not those odd o-rings?

    I seem to remember that he hasn't used oval rings for a while (since at least the Giro last year). I'm sure he was quoted as saying something about "funny chainrings" after he'd gone back to round ones but can't find it.

    Yes, at the start of 2013.
    I’ve come off those silly [ovalised] rings now; I’m back on the normal o-rings, and it’s been a really good transition really.
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    The inner chimp woke up in 2013, since they seemed to work pretty well for him in 2012, although he suggested they were not suited to the Giro climbing.
  • Thanks.
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  • Anyone know the story behind the knee strapping/bandage?

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  • Cunego?

    Cunego, Vino, Schleck, Evans, DiLuca, Valverde - any more recent riders won a GT and a monument/worlds/olympics?
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  • epc06
    epc06 Posts: 216
    This photo is superb.
    A picture is worth a thousand words..the look on Martin's face

    From the amazing Kare Dehlie Thorstad:
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    TimB34 wrote:
    I mentioned it before in this thread but does anyone know why Wiggins was on standard rings and not those odd o-rings?

    I seem to remember that he hasn't used oval rings for a while (since at least the Giro last year). I'm sure he was quoted as saying something about "funny chainrings" after he'd gone back to round ones but can't find it.

    Yes, at the start of 2013.
    I’ve come off those silly [ovalised] rings now; I’m back on the normal o-rings, and it’s been a really good transition really.
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14472 ... z3EJlabjsN

    The inner chimp woke up in 2013, since they seemed to work pretty well for him in 2012, although he suggested they were not suited to the Giro climbing.

    I chatted to the 'inventer' at eurobike and had a ride on a bike with a standard and the osymetric rings (he insists they're not oval). They certainly feel different, whether better or not is hard to say. He has a good relationship with Froome, who still uses them and in fact had just returned from Monaco and a meeting with Froome. Insists no money chnages hands for any of the Osymetric riders.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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    Ha, nice one FF shows it means a lot. The look of relief after.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    EPC06 wrote:
    This photo is superb.
    A picture is worth a thousand words..the look on Martin's face

    From the amazing Kare Dehlie Thorstad:
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    Even in Das Boot they didn't express that much dispair.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    FocusZing wrote:
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    Ha, nice one FF shows it means a lot. The look of relief after.
    Brilliant clip. With all the irrational favouritism (and that's not a criticism - what would any sport be without it?) it's easy for us armchair fans to forget that each and every rider is giving everything - Wiggins's look vividly shows how little there is left in the tank.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Thats a fair point, the fact he has won it three times takes the sting out of it.