Met Parachute, old vs new 2014

VWsurfbum

OK, Back from a ride over the pump track, I'm not gonna lie to you, its a bit weird.
First thought while riding up there was how good the ventilation was on top of the lid whilst moving, which played with my head a bit because my view was defiantly from a full face.
secondly, I put on my warm jacket to deliberately try and work up a sweat, and threw a few shapes around the pump track for about 15 mins or so. Didn't feel the need to take the lid off at all. I'm not saying its as cool as an open face lid, but its far far better than a full face and not far off a open face.
Thirdly, a 29er is far too big for a BMX track and you can cause yourself a nasty accident if your not carefull.

poah

what pads did you use to fit your face?

VWsurfbum

The thinner (fat head) ones, i think for pure XC riding you'd take them out completely

realnumber 1

VWsurfbum wrote:

The thinner (fat head) ones, i think for pure XC riding you'd take them out completely

I have to use the thick ones as my head is on the small size of medium.

Looks nice in blue. I um'd and r'd a lot over blue or red...

rockmonkeysc

Would you really want a helmet like that for pure xc? Seems a bit OTT.
The photos above show it definitely leaves more face exposed than a normal full face so more risk of pointy rocks or branches getting in your face. My normal full face leaves no exposed face when worn with goggles but I wouldn't use it for anything other than DH.
I'm still not sure what it's intended use is.

realnumber 1

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Would you really want a helmet like that for pure xc? Seems a bit OTT.
The photos above show it definitely leaves more face exposed than a normal full face so more risk of pointy rocks or branches getting in your face. My normal full face leaves no exposed face when worn with goggles but I wouldn't use it for anything other than DH.
I'm still not sure what it's intended use is.

Flol at the intended use....

rockmonkeysc

I understand you put it on your swede but it's not for xc or downhill and I don't really see the point of it for #enduro.

VWsurfbum

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Would you really want a helmet like that for pure xc? Seems a bit OTT.
The photos above show it definitely leaves more face exposed than a normal full face so more risk of pointy rocks or branches getting in your face. My normal full face leaves no exposed face when worn with goggles but I wouldn't use it for anything other than DH.
I'm still not sure what it's intended use is.

Try again, just wrote all this out once :roll:

The open part of the helmet is the same size as a normal DH lid, i'll put my goggles on and take another selfie later, its probably the angle of the photo.
I think for the most part its ideal for trail centres and aggressive XC, After my off a few weeks agoI think it is ideal for these sorts of places where you need to pedal and need protection.
Its a 100% an Enduro lid as like the discipline its halfway between DH and XC. I'll be using it this weekend at PORC but hopefully i'll have a chance to get some XC in before Monday morning

rockmonkeysc

Personally I really wouldn't want anything other than an xc helmet for xc/trail/enduro. I have been fine for several years with xc helmets so more protection doesn't appeal.
Part of the reason I like a proper DH helmet for downhill is the isolation from the feeling of speed by keeping out the wind and noise. That and I have smashed my head in to rocks hard enough to destroy a Urge Down O Matic and knock myself out.

VWsurfbum

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Personally I really wouldn't want anything other than an xc helmet for xc/trail/enduro. I have been fine for several years with xc helmets so more protection doesn't appeal.
Part of the reason I like a proper DH helmet for downhill is the isolation from the feeling of speed by keeping out the wind and noise. That and I have smashed my head in to rocks hard enough to destroy a Urge Down O Matic and knock myself out.

Agreed I have been fine without killing myself for the best part of a decade of visiting these places, but 2 weeks ago I crashed in a very easy part of BPW which was more like a XC trail than DH, If i wasnt wearing my full face, i would of had to of repaired my face as well as my hand and shoulder.

I'll still use a full DH lid for DH racing and XC lid for very flat uninteresting XC rides but for anything else theres this.

So to answer your point that you keep asking "Whats it for" Its for riding thats not full on DH and not full on XC its for all the riding in between.
And that is a very large part of what i do.

poah

I don't get why there is such a issue about wearing a FF helmet for things other than DH. I'm almost 40 and have no wish to face plant with out a FF at 20mph wither I'm on the road or doing my local trails.

VWsurfbum

Snap

rockmonkeysc

No problem with other people wearing them. I just don't understand it when I have managed fine for several years with just an xc helmet for anything other than DH. I know I could have a big accident on an xc ride but I would rather take that risk than wear a full face helmet.
I think people are too scared of taking risks these days. I'm seeing it in rock climbing as well, even climbers seem to be avoiding risks and missing out on the mind blowing experience of climbing without ropes.
Dangerous sports are becoming sanitised and safe.

poah

next week RSC posts a picture of his jaw wired shut

I just don't feel comfortable wearing an open face helmet at the speed I like to go at. if I pottered about slowly I'd wear a £30 XC lid.

VWsurfbum

Either your very care free of your health or your completely missing the point. If you have a family and a mortgage to pay for you can't help but take more precautions.
Extreme sports can be dangerous but if you can make it safer while still pushing the limits then surely that's got to be a good idea.
Rim brakes were fine but when something better came along we change to the better and in this case safer option

rockmonkeysc

I have a family and mortgage but I have been involved in dangerous sports since my mid teens and still alive despite various broken bones including spinal injuries.
For me, the feeling of taking risks is something I need in my life. I spend my working life sat at a desk, bored out of my brains.

VWsurfbum

Then sir this is not for you.

On another unrelated note, Is blue slower than the red?

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

For me, the feeling of taking risks is something I need in my life. I spend my working life sat at a desk, bored out of my brains.

Crap. Dangerous sports are not about taking risks. For the most part they're about the rush you get from the dynamic nature of the activity, with risk being just something you accept. If you have some personality flaw that leads you to need to heroically cheat death every time you swing a leg over your bike then why not take the helmet off altogether when on a black run?

welshkev

Angus Young wrote:

[. If you have some personality flaw that leads you to need to heroically cheat death every time you swing a leg over your bike then why not take the helmet off altogether when on a black run?

challenge accepted

m_cozzy

Without going into the pointless arguments as to its intended use (again...... yawn), what size did you get?
I got a large for my 59.5cm head & I recon its a tad too large, it clicks 28 times out of 30 on the rear adjuster to nip the headband up, I would have ideally liked to try the medium, but too late now.

VWsurfbum

I bought the medium for my 56" noggin, only had to tighten by 3 clicks

poah

I'm tempted by the bike-discount price but I'll need to try it on first before as sending it back is a bit of a pain if it doesn't fit.

Angus Young

Personally I hate full face helmets. When I wear one on track days I feel like I've spent the day sitting inside a post box.

rockmonkeysc

Angus Young wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

For me, the feeling of taking risks is something I need in my life. I spend my working life sat at a desk, bored out of my brains.

Crap. Dangerous sports are not about taking risks. For the most part they're about the rush you get from the dynamic nature of the activity, with risk being just something you accept. If you have some personality flaw that leads you to need to heroically cheat death every time you swing a leg over your bike then why not take the helmet off altogether when on a black run?

It's about balancing the risks to not sanitise the experience.
I wouldn't ride without a helmet but I don't want to wear a helmet which isolates me from the feeling of speed etc.
I think overprotecting yourself can lead to over confidence. It doesn't matter how much armour etc you wear bones will still break.

realnumber 1

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I understand you put it on your swede but it's not for xc or downhill and I don't really see the point of it for #enduro.

This is the type of enduro I was using mine for the other week. Are you saying it's not suitable for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8m230 ... e=youtu.be

Even when I'm riding in the Pennines or at trail centres like Lee Quarry, Wharncliffe, CyB etc when it points down I like to push it hard so I think it's more than suitable for ME!

realnumber 1

m_cozzy wrote:

Without going into the pointless arguments as to its intended use (again...... yawn), what size did you get?
I got a large for my 59.5cm head & I recon its a tad too large, it clicks 28 times out of 30 on the rear adjuster to nip the headband up, I would have ideally liked to try the medium, but too late now.

I go to about 25-27 clicks on my medium. It still fits fine and everything but if they'd done a small as well then I'd have liked to try it out.

rockmonkeysc

realnumber 1 wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I understand you put it on your swede but it's not for xc or downhill and I don't really see the point of it for #enduro.

This is the type of enduro I was using mine for the other week. Are you saying it's not suitable for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8m230 ... e=youtu.be

Even when I'm riding in the Pennines or at trail centres like Lee Quarry, Wharncliffe, CyB etc when it points down I like to push it hard so I think it's more than suitable for ME!

Looks like a really good trail but its the sort of thing I have been riding in just an xc helmet for years and never felt the need for more so personally I wouldn't. I would want some good glasses with that dust though!

realnumber 1

RockmonkeySC wrote:

realnumber 1 wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I understand you put it on your swede but it's not for xc or downhill and I don't really see the point of it for #enduro.

This is the type of enduro I was using mine for the other week. Are you saying it's not suitable for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8m230 ... e=youtu.be

Even when I'm riding in the Pennines or at trail centres like Lee Quarry, Wharncliffe, CyB etc when it points down I like to push it hard so I think it's more than suitable for ME!

Looks like a really good trail but its the sort of thing I have been riding in just an xc helmet for years and never felt the need for more so personally I wouldn't. I would want some good glasses with that dust though!

And I used my old Parachute for the same kind of thing but the new one is far more suitable for that sort of riding. I wouldn't dream of using an XC helmet for it now with the new one being so much better for that type of riding...

VWsurfbum

realnumber 1 wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I understand you put it on your swede but it's not for xc or downhill and I don't really see the point of it for #enduro.

This is the type of enduro I was using mine for the other week. Are you saying it's not suitable for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8m230 ... e=youtu.be

Even when I'm riding in the Pennines or at trail centres like Lee Quarry, Wharncliffe, CyB etc when it points down I like to push it hard so I think it's more than suitable for ME!

Off topic, but were all the runs like that? looked awesome

VWsurfbum

Right took some more pictures of the camera mount and with goggles