TDF Stage 13: St Etiennie - Chamrousse *spoiler*

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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,095
    edited July 2014
    Porte finishes @ 8'49 down, drops out of the top ten

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Really enjoyed that final climb. Went on forever and there were so many events. Great stuff.

    Nibali cruised as expected but some spirited attempts to take up the offensive and limit losses.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    nevman wrote:
    Me and Pinot are off to the Movistar bus-who`s in?

    Surely Piti could have limited his losses if he hadn't saved himself for his 4th place sprint?
    He has clearly given up on catching Nibali. Want's to secure 2nd. That's experience.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    DeadCalm wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    :( God this race needed Contador and Froome
    Or Wiggins...

    To do what? Come 32nd?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Thomas leading Porte home. Does make you wonder if they'd been better off backing G?

    Unless its all about the heat, I suspect G has just shown why he will never be a GT contender. Would love to be proved wrong but I can't see it.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Also, I am disappointed in Kwiatowski.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    Macaloon wrote:
    Nibali: Best on the classic stages (S2), on the cobbles, and now the MTFs. Dominance.

    Most complete Tour de France perfomance in years. Nibali is basically a modern day Hinault.

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  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    DeadCalm wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    :( God this race needed Contador and Froome
    Or Wiggins...
    He would have made some good jokes on the rest day
  • OPQS
    OPQS Posts: 187
    Not happy with the racing today. Valverde is a wheel sucking scum bag. No surprise, but I really don't like it.

    I'm not convinced about Nibali's performance. I don't know if he just looks so dominant because the other 2 proper GC contenders are both out and that's just how big the gap is between them and the rest of the Peloton, or whether he's up to no good.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    FJS wrote:
    sjmclean wrote:
    Based on what?


    like the fan girls you are akin to do you have a nickname for your club?
    No need for that. People on here are claiming the opposite, that Nibali would have beaten Bertie and Chris, also without evidence. Why not attack those?

    Well based on the fact he has over 3 minutes on his nearest rival, he also put time into Contador and Froome in stage 2, not to mention the cobbles. I think that is evidence enough to be able to form a good opinion.

    So I want to know what he is basing it on. The Contador which lost the Dauphine to Talansky?

    Also Lemond saying Fugslang hit a water bottle when he crashed.
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Also, I am disappointed in Kwiatowski.

    I still think he's wrecked from the first half of the season where he seemed to be racing constantly. Plus he's not really a GC climber (yet - maybe in time).
  • OPQS
    OPQS Posts: 187
    Also, I am disappointed in Kwiatowski.

    You're disappointed a lot today then :(
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Stage:
    1 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Astana Pro Team 5:12:29
    2 Rafal Majka (Pol) Tinkoff-Saxo 0:00:10
    3 Leopold Konig (Cze) Team Netapp-Endura 0:00:11
    4 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Movistar Team 0:00:50
    5 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ.fr 0:00:53
    6 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:01:23
    7 Romain Bardet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:01:23
    8 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Belkin Pro Cycling 0:01:36
    9 Jean-Christophe Péraud (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:02:09
    10 Frank Schleck (Lux) Trek Factory Racing 0:02:09

    GC:
    1 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Astana Pro Team 56:44:03
    2 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Movistar Team 0:03:37
    3 Romain Bardet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:04:24
    4 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ.fr 0:04:40
    5 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:05:19
    6 Jean-Christophe Péraud (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:06:06
    7 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Belkin Pro Cycling 0:06:17
    8 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto-Belisol 0:06:27
    9 Leopold Konig (Cze) Team Netapp-Endura 0:08:36
    10 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Belkin Pro Cycling 0:09:18
    Contador is the Greatest
  • OPQS
    OPQS Posts: 187
    DeadCalm wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    :( God this race needed Contador and Froome
    Or Wiggins...

    *Applause*
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    edited July 2014
    Hard not to conclude that Sky know very little about preparing a team for the Tour. Off the back of an invisible GC effort in the Giro, it's borderline negligence, a long way from the accolades heaped on SDB.
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,095
    sjmclean wrote:

    Also Lemond saying Fugslang hit a water bottle when he crashed.

    already covered 10 pages back
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    BigMat wrote:
    Also, I am disappointed in Kwiatowski.

    I still think he's wrecked from the first half of the season where he seemed to be racing constantly. Plus he's not really a GC climber (yet - maybe in time).

    Check out where he finished last year against some tougher opposition! He could be tired - defo not performing as he was but they did try and rest him.
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  • OPQS
    OPQS Posts: 187
    BigMat wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    :( God this race needed Contador and Froome

    Anybody still think Contador or Froome would have matched this Nibali?!

    Yes, they would have both beaten him.
  • vimfuego
    vimfuego Posts: 1,783
    no time for Valverde.
    "wheel sucking scumbag" - well yes, showed he's only interested in second spot, but he's drugs cheat - end of.
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  • nevman
    nevman Posts: 1,611
    No wonder Sir Dave is rumoured to have Pinot in the frame for next season.
    Whats the solution? Just pedal faster you baby.

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  • powerbookboy
    powerbookboy Posts: 241
    iainf72 wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    :( God this race needed Contador and Froome
    Or Wiggins...

    To do what? Come 32nd?

    To date the climbs look like they'd have suited him. Long high tempo drags, no sudden burst. Might also have had a buffer like Nibs after cobbles, plus a TT to back it up. Seems a worse and worse decision to leave him at home, unless the numbers were way off. And why the hell was G windbreaking for Porte? Who's DS in the car?
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    sjmclean wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    sjmclean wrote:
    Based on what?


    like the fan girls you are akin to do you have a nickname for your club?
    No need for that. People on here are claiming the opposite, that Nibali would have beaten Bertie and Chris, also without evidence. Why not attack those?

    Well based on the fact he has over 3 minutes on his nearest rival, he also put time into Contador and Froome in stage 2, not to mention the cobbles. I think that is evidence enough to be able to form a good opinion.
    2 seconds on a hilly stage and a ride on wet cobbles are not much indication of form in the mountains, right? Suggestion of 'grinta', yes
  • woody1545
    woody1545 Posts: 322
    At least the fight for the Podium is still exciting and we have a Pantomime bad guy in Valverde. Hopefully Bardet or Pinot can nick 2nd of the wheelsucker!
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,793
    various disappointments aside that was a good stage. bardet and tj finally worked out they needed to work together.

    I think its a fine tour. nibali was very canny
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    iainf72 wrote:
    Can I just say

    ANYONE BUT VALVERDE

    Bore off.

    You still stand by this Rick?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,710
    Since SDB went full time, things have turned to sh*t.
    A house of cards, in terms of race strategy.
    Time for the Welsh contingent to start a "Free Geraint, Now" campaign.
    The only Sky rider who has shown real class.

    Valverde remains a world class douche.
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  • powerbookboy
    powerbookboy Posts: 241
    Macaloon wrote:
    Hard not to conclude that Sky know very little about preparing a team for the Tour. Off the back of an invisible GC effort in the Giro, it's borderline negligence, a long way from the accolades heaped on SDB.

    When did Leinders leave? (ducks bottles)
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Updated GC. Prev seemed to be missing Rui Costa.

    1(1) NIBALI VincenzoAstana Pro Team56:44:03
    2(3) VALVERDE AlejandroMovistar Team3:37
    3(4) BARDET RomainAG2R La Mondiale4:24
    4(5) PINOT ThibautFDJ.fr 4:40
    5(6) VAN GARDEREN TejayBMC Racing Team5:19
    6(7) PERAUD Jean-ChristopheAG2R La Mondiale6:06
    7(8) MOLLEMA BaukeBelkin-Pro Cycling Team6:17
    8(9) VAN DEN BROECK JurgenLotto Belisol 6:27
    9(13) COSTA RuiLampre-Merida8:35
    10(19) KÖNIG LeopoldTeam NetApp – Endura8:36
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Macaloon wrote:
    Hard not to conclude that Sky know very little about preparing a team for the Tour. Off the back of an invisible GC effort in the Giro, it's borderline negligence, a long way from the accolades heaped on SDB.

    When did Leinders leave? (ducks bottles)
    Before Wiggins won the Tour.
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