Kreuziger out of Tour. Bio irregularities.

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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I definitely believe him now.

    I am as convinced of his innocence as I was Hamilton's when he passed a lie detector test.


    And when Contador passed his.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Kreuziger racing today in Strade Bianchi. I thought he was still suspended pending CAS outcome? Or free to ride until CAS outcome?
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Was just about to ask the same thing myself.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Well placed too. Just like he was in Oman.

    Thank goodness he is free to race as the speed the UCI work he would be out for another 6months.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Well placed too. Just like he was in Oman.

    Thank goodness he is free to race as the speed the UCI work he would be out for another 6months.
    That's fine as long as when they ban him (as I'm sure they will), they don't backdate the ban and annul these results like they did with Contador. It just makes a mockery of races.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Well placed too. Just like he was in Oman.

    Thank goodness he is free to race as the speed the UCI work he would be out for another 6months.

    i don't believe the UCI are delaying anything here.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Well placed too. Just like he was in Oman.

    Thank goodness he is free to race as the speed the UCI work he would be out for another 6months.

    i don't believe the UCI are delaying anything here.

    Quite.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    So what we waiting for?

    Kreuziger or some other slow moving body?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    So what we waiting for?

    Kreuziger or some other slow moving body?

    CAS

    Effectively RK lost against the UCI, so he's appealing to CAS. (so he can lose again)
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    June 10th the for the CAS hearing. Finally.

    He will ride the Giro most probably.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,541
    Presumably CAS will then decide that he didn't actually ride the Giro.
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably CAS will then decide that he didn't actually ride the Giro.

    So what with this and the Astana situation, could make for an interesting Giro. They'll be writing the results out in pencil.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably CAS will then decide that he didn't actually ride the Giro.

    So what with this and the Astana situation, could make for an interesting Giro. They'll be writing the results out in pencil.

    I'm sure a few of the italian wild cards will chip in as well.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    sjmclean wrote:
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Presumably CAS will then decide that he didn't actually ride the Giro.

    So what with this and the Astana situation, could make for an interesting Giro. They'll be writing the results out in pencil.

    I'm sure a few of the italian wild cards will chip in as well.

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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,643
    frenchfighter wrote:
    June 10th the for the CAS hearing. Finally.

    He will ride the Giro most probably.

    Will his ban start from date of CAS ruling or be retrospective back to some other point? And yes, I am assuming CAS doesn't go his way.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Joelsim wrote:
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.

    Wow!
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Joelsim wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.

    Wow!

    Have you given up yet? :wink:

    Anyone have any idea what the new evidence was?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.

    Wow!

    Have you given up yet? :wink:

    Anyone have any idea what the new evidence was?

    I have given up. Clearly the testing is a total chocolate teapot.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.

    Wow!

    Have you given up yet? :wink:

    Anyone have any idea what the new evidence was?

    The Giro.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Macaloon wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    If CAS goes his way we may as well all give up.

    Wow!

    Have you given up yet? :wink:

    Anyone have any idea what the new evidence was?

    The Giro.

    In that "we can't just penalise Roman when they are all doing it" kind of way
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I don't think we'll find out what the evidence is that changed the position.

    But we need to look at it as a positive thing - If you can change you mind based on evidence, that's a sign of strength rather than persisting with being wrong.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    edited June 2015
    http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... ing-appeal

    Very interesting, not often that WADA or the UCi drop doping cases. Excellent news for Contadors chances in the Tour.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    I don't think we'll find out what the evidence is that changed the position.

    But we need to look at it as a positive thing - If you can change you mind based on evidence, that's a sign of strength rather than persisting with being wrong.

    It could be. Or it may not be.

    That still doesn't affect the relevance or accuracy of the phrase 'chocolate teapot'
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Joelsim wrote:
    It could be. Or it may not be.

    That still doesn't affect the relevance or accuracy of the phrase 'chocolate teapot'

    You don't believe there is any way of dealing with this so it's fairly pointless discussing it, right?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    As you can imagine I am very happy and hope he brings his proper A-game to the Tour.

    That being said, they really need to explain this new information. Never heard of this sort of thing happening before and I am terribly interested in what sort of evidence can prove guilt.

    Maybe it is a big fat cheque from Oleg :wink:

    @olegtinkov 4h4 hours ago
    I'm speechless

    @Roman86_K 2h2 hours ago
    Yeeeeessss me and @Michaela_Kreuz are very very happy about todays news!!!
    @Roman86_K 4h4 hours ago
    Finally! It is over,thanks for your support.#kreuzigercase
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    frenchfighter wrote:
    As you can imagine I am very happy and hope he brings his proper A-game to the Tour.

    That being said, they really need to explain this new information. Never heard of this sort of thing happening before and I am terribly interested in what sort of evidence can prove guilt.

    Maybe it is a big fat cheque from Oleg :wink:

    @olegtinkov 4h4 hours ago
    I'm speechless
    I reckon Tinkov may have been quite happy to see him off the payroll. Kreuziger is a Riis signing and probably paid more than his recent performances have merited and it would have freed up cash for one of his own signings.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    It could be. Or it may not be.

    That still doesn't affect the relevance or accuracy of the phrase 'chocolate teapot'

    You don't believe there is any way of dealing with this so it's fairly pointless discussing it, right?

    Correct. The sooner we get nighttime testing the better. At which point the riders will find a way to stop it getting dark.
  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    Kreuzinger not suing UCI/WADA. Is that because a law court has stricter criteria for 'proof'? I'd want some recompense for slurs against my name, unless they were true!
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