For those that love a bun fight

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited June 2016 in Pro race
Vaughters vs Stokes on twitter right now is great
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    It's painful how out of his depth Stokes is.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Turfle wrote:
    It's painful how out of his depth Stokes is.


    Stokes has shown over and over again that his go-to expert in such matters, is Digger

    Good on JV
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,448
    Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters · 39m
    @SSbike Stop being an uniformed dunce trying to take up scientific arguments. Do your homework, first.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,448
    Shane Stokes ‏@SSbike · 36m
    @Vaughters have a Trinity College MSc in Exercise Physiology. I think dunce is a bit much, mate.

    Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters · 26m
    @SSbike I hope you didn't pay too much for that degree, mate.... If you need definition of 'efficiency'
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It's painful how out of his depth Stokes is.


    Stokes has shown over and over again that his go-to expert in such matters, is Digger

    Good on JV
    He's been trying to make a living as a journalist since the 90s and is only working for Cycling Tips. That tells you all you need to know.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Shane Stokes ‏@SSbike · 36m
    @Vaughters have a Trinity College MSc in Exercise Physiology. I think dunce is a bit much, mate.

    Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters · 26m
    @SSbike I hope you didn't pay too much for that degree, mate.... If you need definition of 'efficiency'


    Owww. Smackdown.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Why does JV even respond to these people?
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    and now we enter the "i remember you said something 19 years ago" phase of the discussion.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,448
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    José Been ‏@TourDeJose · 49m
    Is that okay according to rules? RT @kristoffervabo: Froome using inhaler during todays stage? (via @CyclingFlash) https://i.imgflip.com/9g4mr.gif

    Dave/Dim ‏@dimspace · 32m
    Its really not that hard to check the WADA list, and rather than being in a respected position as saying "is that ok" and casting doubt

    Scott O'Raw ‏@velocast · 29m
    @dimspace And that is precisely the problem with respecting (and I apologise for this in advance) fucking idiots!

    Michelle Cound ‏@michellecound · 9m
    @velocast @TourDeJose no TUE required, he has asthma, hence the coughing after exertion #duh #trolls

    Fuck the hypocrisy ‏@Digger_forum · 30m
    Bilharzia and asthma - Froomey can't catch a break it seems.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    It really is incredible how badly so many people want him to be a cheat.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Only in cycling would anyone get worked up about an asthma inhaler.

    And anyone who has heard him coughing like a twenty a day smoker after ever stage shouldn't be the least bit surprised either.
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  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    Taking an inhaler during a stage is more of a disadvantage than an advantage! Having to hold your breath for 10 seconds while under heavy exertion is quite a tricky thing to do (for the very few who have never seen someone take an aerosol based inhaler you need to hold your breath otherwise most of the good stuff gets breathed straight out).

    I've never had to take mine mid bike race - mine isn't exercise induced - but I used to run and would have to slow to walking pace in order to take my inhaler. This time of year can be particularly difficult coupled with hay fever.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Shane Stokes ‏@SSbike · 36m
    @Vaughters have a Trinity College MSc in Exercise Physiology. I think dunce is a bit much, mate.

    Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters · 26m
    @SSbike I hope you didn't pay too much for that degree, mate.... If you need definition of 'efficiency'


    Owww. Smackdown.

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    10 points for Griffyndor.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Turfle wrote:
    It really is incredible how badly so many people want him to be a cheat.

    For most of them I think it's an excuse to be a bigot in public.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Macaloon wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It really is incredible how badly so many people want him to be a cheat.

    For most of them I think it's an excuse to be a bigot in public.
    What annoys me is that they claim something like "I just want this sport that I love to be clean" etc. It's BS. They just want a scandal (largely so they can say 'I told you so'). They love a scandal which is why cling to the Armstrong case. If they were honest about it, I could accept it. But they are like people claiming that they watch porn for the stories.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It really is incredible how badly so many people want him to be a cheat.

    For most of them I think it's an excuse to be a bigot in public.
    What annoys me is that they claim something like "I just want this sport that I love to be clean" etc. It's BS. They just want a scandal (largely so they can say 'I told you so'). They love a scandal which is why cling to the Armstrong case. If they were honest about it, I could accept it. But they are like people claiming that they watch porn for the stories.

    This.
    It's their drug of choice.
    Some of them are in full time employment because of it, they just don't realise it.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    edited June 2014
    A lot of people's self worth is tied up in them being right about the conspiracy. They've invested years in it; they've become experts in xenon gas, they know what plasters indicate hen used post-race (nothing), they can type "w/kg" really really quickly, and they even understand some of what Vayer is babbling on about. If they're wrong, all of that knowledge become useless.
  • PuttyKnees
    PuttyKnees Posts: 381
    The start of every race I've been in has been like an asthmatic's convention. Got to get every advantage!
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    PuttyKnees wrote:
    The start of every race I've been in has been like an asthmatic's convention. Got to get every advantage!

    Take it while you can! :lol: If they've grown up with asthma like I have we were always told to take a puff or two before exercise. It's only more recently that we've been told not to do that and to rely more on preventative inhalers - habit is hard to get out of! Biggest worry I've had with asthma during a race is that I crash and land straight on my inhaler - that'd smart. Pain in the neck trying to keep carry an inhaler wearing a skinsuit too.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Some of them are in full time employment because of it, they just don't realise it.
    I think some are also very aware of it and are quite happy to play to the crowd.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,448
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRnInyT ... dded#t=283

    via @dimspace
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Some of them are in full time employment because of it, they just don't realise it.
    I think some are also very aware of it and are quite happy to play to the crowd.

    Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · 12h
    @muhua33 I am tired of these knuckleheads just constantly creating an undertow of suspicion. Just because they have the power. It's abusive

    Shane Stokes is knock*lehead in question.

    *Hometown
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Macaloon wrote:
    Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · 12h
    @muhua33 I am tired of these knuckleheads just constantly creating an undertow of suspicion. Just because they have the power. It's abusive
    Hasn't Vaughters worked out yet that the knuckleheads use him to get attention and validity? If he stopped entertaining their tweets in his need to be the 'cleanest' team then he wouldn't enpower them.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · 12h
    @muhua33 I am tired of these knuckleheads just constantly creating an undertow of suspicion. Just because they have the power. It's abusive
    Hasn't Vaughters worked out yet that the knuckleheads use him to get attention and validity? If he stopped entertaining their tweets in his need to be the 'cleanest' team then he wouldn't enpower them.

    I think he has. He pointed out several times that Stokes is a dunce. That's a public service.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I have asthma. I never get asthma when I am riding, however hard. I take my pump with me all the time and occasionally use it. When I do I go faster.
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    Thanks for that useful intervention Doc.
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    FF admits to doping. Quick someone call cyclingnews. :lol:
  • Sjaak
    Sjaak Posts: 99
    frenchfighter wrote:
    I have asthma. I never get asthma when I am riding, however hard. I take my pump with me all the time and occasionally use it. When I do I go faster.

    my diagnosis is that yours is almost certainly not exercise-induced asthma. please rest assured that it is perfectly normal, for peace of mind, to have your pump on you all the time and occasionally use it. but like everything else in life, just don't overdo it.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,448
    Cound went mental.

    Not entirely wrong....but mental all the same
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    So, the usual?

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