2014 Giro-Stage 20:Monte Zoncolan *Spoilers*

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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Stunning performance from a guy called-up with only few days notice. Hope he recovers for the Tour. Tinkoff building a formidable unit.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    The guy holding him up is Oleg. Passion.
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  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.

    They don't have to knock them off. The last thing you need in when knackered and under pressure is the added pressure that they might knock you off or even just slow you momentarily. What does it achieve? All they are is a bunch of egotists trying to get themselves noticed, it's the same with the fancy dress. We need a few Hinault style riders in the peloton to sort them out or fans who will clothesline them from the side.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    knedlicky wrote:
    I wouldn’t say they were drunk, drunkenness doesn’t seem a problem amongst spectators (away from the Dutch corners :wink: )
    To be fair to the Basques and the Dutch, they might get drunk but they for the most part actually know how to behave.
    So rather than more barriers, the solution is clearly more orange clothing!
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.
    Oh well, in that case it's obviously completely safe and we can all be sure it will never ever happen :roll:
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    adr82 wrote:
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.
    Oh well, in that case it's obviously completely safe and we can all be sure it will never ever happen :roll:

    I have been looking for that footage from last years TdF where the ginger bearded bloke gets tripped over and then hangbags up to the guy who did it - who then wallops him. It was discussed on here alot - its great viewing if anyone has the link...
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Pross wrote:
    They don't have to knock them off. The last thing you need in when knackered and under pressure is the added pressure that they might knock you off or even just slow you momentarily. What does it achieve? All they are is a bunch of egotists trying to get themselves noticed, it's the same with the fancy dress. We need a few Hinault style riders in the peloton to sort them out or fans who will clothesline them from the side.

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  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    adr82 wrote:
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.
    Oh well, in that case it's obviously completely safe and we can all be sure it will never ever happen :roll:

    Are you a health and safety nut? "It will never ever happen" Lets just chuck away the excitement of the mountains and the fans who play a huge role in creating that excitement just in case and it hasn't happened yet some fan knocks a rider off while running along side. Remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEqQW1-casM Armstrong getting knocked off by a static fan. Then getting a helping push [ does not fall off] and then the fans stepping back when he comes out of his pedals [ the barstards :lol:] and then we have fans cheering running alongside, parting the road to let the riders through. You want to stop all this because a guy accidently and only trying to help pushed a rider a bit to hard.
    Its awesome. You want this kind of excitement stopped. Shall we also clear the grassy knolls as well. It might happen.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Nothing to do with safety most of us just don't want some exhibitionist getting in the way of the racing.
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  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Nothing to do with safety most of us just don't want some exhibitionist getting in the way of the racing.

    The spectators are half the of the racing.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    adr82 wrote:
    D O G wrote:
    I love the fans on the side of the road running along.

    I think you are in a very small minority then. Fans running alongside riders is pointless, idiotic and selfish.

    I don't think a fan running alongside a rider has ever knocked one off. I have seen riders knocked off by people taking photo's and in this Giro giving a rider a push from behind but not by running along.
    Oh well, in that case it's obviously completely safe and we can all be sure it will never ever happen :roll:

    Are you a health and safety nut? "It will never ever happen" Lets just chuck away the excitement of the mountains and the fans who play a huge role in creating that excitement just in case and it hasn't happened yet some fan knocks a rider off while running along side. Remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEqQW1-casM Armstrong getting knocked off by a static fan. Then getting a helping push [ does not fall off] and then the fans stepping back when he comes out of his pedals [ the barstards :lol:] and then we have fans cheering running alongside, parting the road to let the riders through. You want to stop all this because a guy accidently and only trying to help pushed a rider a bit to hard.
    Its awesome. You want this kind of excitement stopped. Shall we also clear the grassy knolls as well. It might happen.
    My point was simply that although no riders have been knocked off by fans running alongside them yet doesn't mean they won't be in the future. There have been lots of cases of fans getting in the way in other situations, so it's just a matter of time. And not just on mountains, look at what happened to Stybar in PR last year. I'm all for fans creating excitement, but they can do that perfectly well by standing off the side of the road and cheering, can't they? Or if they really want to run up the road, they should have the sense not to do it literally right next to the riders. When the actions of fans start influencing the results of races you have to think they need to take it down a notch.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    I can feel this post is going to come back and kick my ass :lol: when some idiot jumps on Froome or Contador at the Dauphine and brings them down. I hope know one on here goes to extreme lengths to prove me wrong :lol:
  • warreng
    warreng Posts: 535
    It does seem to be getting worse

    It's all getting a little bit Barmy-Army - "Oooooh, look at me, look at me, aren't I wacky and zany?"
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    It's the fancy costumes, and the recording video on your phone as you run alongside. It's becoming more about themselves than the riders. You don't want to see the passion go away, but equally you don't want riders to lose races because of it.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    What with all that vicious dressing up for fun. The bastards.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    What with all that vicious dressing up for fun. The bastards.

    Yes, that was the point. Nice one.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    Where's the mans dignity.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Cant you guys find something else to talk about. Maybe congratulating Quintana? There doesnt seem to be much congratulating on this forum.

    I will leave you with this from Robert Millar:
    Bardiani's Francesco Bongiorno had been shadowing the Australian until 3km to go but then some nut case, dressed in a rainbow top no less, decided to help the Italian and promptly pushed him off. I despair of these idiots who think it's fun to get involved in the bike race by running alongside, in costumes or in some case with very little to hide their dignity. And it wasn't like this self elected world champion learned anything about his dumb involvement because four minutes later he was running in the road again. No wonder Rogers thumped a few of the over enthusiastic idiots as riding up a goat track is hard enough without having to deal with blokes in tutus screaming in your ear.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I can feel this post is going to come back and kick my ass :lol: when some idiot jumps on Froome or Contador at the Dauphine and brings them down. I hope know one on here goes to extreme lengths to prove me wrong :lol:
    It's almost inevitable that a major incident will happen. The crowds are getting worse, not better. The next step is that the runners will need to take selfies while running. And there's also the rise of a small section of fans that are filled with bile and looking for a release. I expect to see a spectator actually attack a rider at the Tour before the decade is done.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Cant you guys find something else to talk about. Maybe congratulating Quintana? There doesnt seem to be much congratulating on this forum.
    Yes, heaven forbid we talk about important incidents that may have determined the result of the stage this thread is specifically about. What bastards we all are. :roll:
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    Cant you guys find something else to talk about. Maybe congratulating Quintana? There doesnt seem to be much congratulating on this forum.

    I will leave you with this from Robert Millar:
    Bardiani's Francesco Bongiorno had been shadowing the Australian until 3km to go but then some nut case, dressed in a rainbow top no less, decided to help the Italian and promptly pushed him off. I despair of these idiots who think it's fun to get involved in the bike race by running alongside, in costumes or in some case with very little to hide their dignity. And it wasn't like this self elected world champion learned anything about his dumb involvement because four minutes later he was running in the road again. No wonder Rogers thumped a few of the over enthusiastic idiots as riding up a goat track is hard enough without having to deal with blokes in tutus screaming in your ear.

    Is it that speech from four weddings?
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    RichN95 wrote:
    I can feel this post is going to come back and kick my ass :lol: when some idiot jumps on Froome or Contador at the Dauphine and brings them down. I hope know one on here goes to extreme lengths to prove me wrong :lol:
    It's almost inevitable that a major incident will happen. The crowds are getting worse, not better. The next step is that the runners will need to take selfies while running. And there's also the rise of a small section of fans that are filled with bile and looking for a release. I expect to see a spectator actually attack a rider at the Tour before the decade is done.

    I reckon it's not long before a rider is taken out by Ra's Al Ghaul and the league of shadows
    On a serious note. Merckx got punched.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Giro d'Italia, 40 years ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8p-wDm5Wbc

    :lol:
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Salsiccia1 wrote:

    This is great on so many levels.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    The finish line was slightly more subtle in those days! It always surprises me how heavy Merckx looks for someone who climbed so well. Not quite Indurain stature but he still looks a 'normal' size for a cyclist who can get up mountains quickly.
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Salsiccia1 wrote:

    And spectators running with the riders.

    IT'S MADNESS!! HOW DARE THEY!? ...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I watched the boxing on Saturday night and I can't say that the atmosphere was spoiled by the lack of a drunk man dressed as a fairy dancing around the ring

    There's a time and a place for running alongside the competitors at a sporting event and that time and place is the Pamplona bull run.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    ThomThom wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:

    And spectators running with the riders.

    IT'S MADNESS!! HOW DARE THEY!? ...

    The best one is the guy dressed in a biscuit-coloured suit at 7.00 mins. No mankini or tutu for that dude.

    I posted that because although there was some annoying people on the Zoncolan, it's been the case for years. The bellend in the world stripes was a bellend, but he was actually the only fan that seemed to affect the racing to any degree. Of course, if one of the tutus had fallen in front of Quintana, then that's a different story...

    One of the beauties of the sport for me is the fans being on the spot. I can see why people don't like fans running alongside, and would like to see it stopped, but not by having barriers all the way up the climbs.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Cant you guys find something else to talk about. Maybe congratulating Quintana? There doesnt seem to be much congratulating on this forum.

    I didn't realise Nairo was on the forum, otherwise that would be like writing someone a birthday card who is not going to read it cos you're not going to send it to them, all a bit weird really.

    What's his username?