Chris Froome tweet
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I only got to page 5 of this thread before I had to stop reading. I couldn't take any more.
I thank the good Lord that this thread has come along and hope that it will (but probably won't) exhaust all the usual anti-Sky, I-hate-Froome shyte that will inevitably clog up this forum come July. How can a Tour contender looking for increased out-of-competition testing be deemed to be a bad thing? Seems like a good idea to me and should keep the moronic questions in the press conferences to a minimum.
I guess it really annoys some people that it is Froome calling in the testers and not one of the other GC guys.
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Ah you see though Froome calling in the testers is like Lance donating money/a machine (whatever it was I can't remember) to the UCI, a double bluff, because of course the two things are totally comparable situations... You know, as the anthem for the crusaders goes:
Won't get fooled again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1QCorrelation is not causation.0 -
I just saw this and thought the timing was perfect to mention it here. Whisper it quietly but another Sky rider was happy to see the testers!
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news ... the-break/
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Above The Cows wrote:Won't get fooled again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
I agree, there is something very dodgy about Pete Townshend.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:TheBigBean wrote:There's an usual amount of people with 1st class degrees on this thread, and as we all know correlation is causation, so I conclude cycling attracts the intelligent (or at least geeky people who get firsts etc. etc.). QED.
I didn't got to uni. I'll close the door on my way out.
But before I go, I'd like to point out that Contador hasn't won 7 GTs...frenchfighter wrote:The other is the opposite and has 7 Grand Tours and counting.
...he's won 5.
Damnit and there was I all ready to point out to Frenchie that my 1st (MEng from some Midlands uni) must have been better than his as I am at least numerate.
And whilst Froome does "only" have 1 GT, it is at least the big Grand Tour that everyone wants to win...He also might have 3 GTs by now, if it wasn't for Wiggins (and I say that as as fan of Wiggo!)You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:Well, it seems Froome has got a successful response.
Twitter functioning in this case.
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/05/uci-s ... unt-teide/
And Shane Stokes didn't read Geography at uni if he thinks Teide is extinct.
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Richmond Racer wrote:bompington wrote:
Right enough, I'd forgotten about it until Froome went and mentioned it.tuneskyline wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:tuneskyline wrote:Cycling needs to take a leaf out of other sports. Even if you are trying to do a good thing, not many believe cyclists so it gets turned around. Better to say nothing or in the cases were riders do get caught keep it to a minimum.
Like I said the other day Zidane is a hero and his PED's bust ignored but any cyclist is treated like a murderer banned hated etc etc. We can't stop riders doping but we can try and handle things a bit better and in most cases its best if riders keep their mouths shut or we end up with another doping headline.
So you're in favour of good old-fadhioned omertà?
If they are clean the there is no need for an omertà.
Cycling and doping go together like eggs and bacon in most peoples eyes. Froome may have been well meaning but he his only highlighting the connection between doping and cycling again. His tweet was misjudged in my view.
Ok, Bomp, that made me larf out loud
This is quite possibly the most entertaining thread since Frenchie decided to exact revenge on impudent posters by withholding his marv equine photo, only to provoke a herd of pony avis
Bomp's comment made you laugh. :roll: Jesus.
From your posts you seem to be Sky's no 1 fan so you defend for the sake of defence. But do you see the can of worms that tweet has opened up. Its not about what you or I think, it puts doping and cycling in the same hole again. Not good for no one in my view. Even if my man Andy Schleck had tweeted that I would have said bad move.
You would never see Ronaldo or Drogba asking why they haven't been tested.0 -
No doubt Froome thinks he might have 3 GT's by now if it wasn't for Wiggins, anyone that watched the 2012 Tour would doubt that. I might give him that Vuelta though ![Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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DeVlaeminck wrote:No doubt Froome thinks he might have 3 GT's by now if it wasn't for Wiggins, anyone that watched the 2012 Tour would doubt that. I might give him that Vuelta though !
A fair chunk of his deficit to Wiggo was from his puncture on stage 1. If he'd been given licence to attack in the mountains, with not a great deal of competition (Nibbles couldn't shake them both) he could have eaten into the TT advantage that Wiggo gained.0 -
argyllflyer wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:No doubt Froome thinks he might have 3 GT's by now if it wasn't for Wiggins, anyone that watched the 2012 Tour would doubt that. I might give him that Vuelta though !
A fair chunk of his deficit to Wiggo was from his puncture on stage 1. If he'd been given licence to attack in the mountains, with not a great deal of competition (Nibbles couldn't shake them both) he could have eaten into the TT advantage that Wiggo gained.
Please can I have a look through your retrospectoscope?0 -
I really don't see your problem. If there's going to be talk about cycling and doping (and there obviously is always going to be given what's happened in the past), surely it's better for the sport if that talk happens to be about top riders complaining they don't get tested enough than random internet warriors propounding baseless doping theories about whoever they don't like?tuneskyline wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:bompington wrote:
Right enough, I'd forgotten about it until Froome went and mentioned it.tuneskyline wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:tuneskyline wrote:Cycling needs to take a leaf out of other sports. Even if you are trying to do a good thing, not many believe cyclists so it gets turned around. Better to say nothing or in the cases were riders do get caught keep it to a minimum.
Like I said the other day Zidane is a hero and his PED's bust ignored but any cyclist is treated like a murderer banned hated etc etc. We can't stop riders doping but we can try and handle things a bit better and in most cases its best if riders keep their mouths shut or we end up with another doping headline.
So you're in favour of good old-fadhioned omertà?
If they are clean the there is no need for an omertà.
Cycling and doping go together like eggs and bacon in most peoples eyes. Froome may have been well meaning but he his only highlighting the connection between doping and cycling again. His tweet was misjudged in my view.
Ok, Bomp, that made me larf out loud
This is quite possibly the most entertaining thread since Frenchie decided to exact revenge on impudent posters by withholding his marv equine photo, only to provoke a herd of pony avis
Bomp's comment made you laugh. :roll: Jesus.
From your posts you seem to be Sky's no 1 fan so you defend for the sake of defence. But do you see the can of worms that tweet has opened up. Its not about what you or I think, it puts doping and cycling in the same hole again. Not good for no one in my view. Even if my man Andy Schleck had tweeted that I would have said bad move.
You would never see Ronaldo or Drogba asking why they haven't been tested.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:^^Maybe you can tweet him and ask how many times he had been to the UK?
I seem to remember he was asked that during the Tour last year. He answered his father lived in South Africa and a lot of his relatives in England.
BTW. His surname Froome is about as English as you can get. It's old English for place beside the river.There may also be a West Country connection with the town of Frome.
Clive Froome was educated at Rugby school and played Hockey for England Juniors. He sent his two eldest sons, at great expense, to I believe the same school but Chris had to slum it at a rather cheaper establishment in South Africa !0 -
tuneskyline wrote:Bomp's comment made you laugh. :roll: Jesus.
From your posts you seem to be Sky's no 1 fan so you defend for the sake of defence. But do you see the can of worms that tweet has opened up. Its not about what you or I think, it puts doping and cycling in the same hole again. Not good for no one in my view. Even if my man Andy Schleck had tweeted that I would have said bad move.
You would never see Ronaldo or Drogba asking why they haven't been tested.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole world had forgotten about cycling's long standing association with doping until Froome's tweet reminded everyone again...0 -
adamfo wrote:frenchfighter wrote:^^Maybe you can tweet him and ask how many times he had been to the UK?
I seem to remember he was asked that during the Tour last year. He answered his father lived in South Africa and a lot of his relatives in England.
BTW. His surname Froome is about as English as you can get. It's old English for place beside the river.There may also be a West Country connection with the town of Frome.
Clive Froome was educated at Rugby school and played Hockey for England Juniors. He sent his two eldest sons, at great expense, to I believe the same school but Chris had to slum it at a rather cheaper establishment in South Africa !
Froome is not English/British. He was born elsewhere. If you want to adopt him and pretend he's English then go ahead. In fact Wiggo was born in Belgium so technically so still no British/English born tour winner although Wiggo has been here most of his life. I mean who really gives a fu$k. I was born in England and I like Andy Schleck so suck on that No wonder That $%$% Nigel Farage is popular. 0 -
Oh p*ss off with the born elsewhere crap. No really p*ss off.Correlation is not causation.0
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r0bh wrote:tuneskyline wrote:Bomp's comment made you laugh. :roll: Jesus.
From your posts you seem to be Sky's no 1 fan so you defend for the sake of defence. But do you see the can of worms that tweet has opened up. Its not about what you or I think, it puts doping and cycling in the same hole again. Not good for no one in my view. Even if my man Andy Schleck had tweeted that I would have said bad move.
You would never see Ronaldo or Drogba asking why they haven't been tested.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole world had forgotten about cycling's long standing association with doping until Froome's tweet reminded everyone again...
Yeah your just repeating the same thing has Bomp. Tell me, how do you make the connection between doping and cycling go away? by keep talking about it? Better to talk about the racing and the great riders and what great athletes they are. Not keep digging up the same old dirge. Every sport has dopers but cycling unlike other sports has a stronger connection.0 -
Above The Cows wrote:Oh p*ss off with the born elsewhere crap. No really p*ss off.
Contador, Froome , Martin. Wiggo, etc are all talented riders, who cares where they were born. You pi%% off.0 -
tuneskyline wrote:Above The Cows wrote:Oh p*ss off with the born elsewhere crap. No really p*ss off.
Contador, Froome , Martin. Wiggo, etc are all talented riders, who cares where they were born. You pi%% off.
I don't but you seem to be labouring under the false apprehension that an accident of geography seems to have a bearing on a legal-bureaucratic category such as citizenship when there is no intrinsic correlation. A lot of certain other types of people do this, mainly people who start sentences with "some of my best friends are..."Correlation is not causation.0 -
"How do you make it go away"?? Answer me this: why on earth should it go away? The most famous cyclist as far as non-cyclists are concerned is Lance, who was also at the very centre of the biggest sports doping case in history, and that case has been in the news an awful lot recently. It's entirely natural and correct for people to look at cycling and wonder about doping - they're going to be inextricably linked for a long long time to come. Given that, don't you think attempting to sweep the whole subject under the carpet ASAP and pretend nothing ever happened is going to look just a tiny bit odd? What Froome is doing can only be a good thing as far as I can see.tuneskyline wrote:r0bh wrote:tuneskyline wrote:Bomp's comment made you laugh. :roll: Jesus.
From your posts you seem to be Sky's no 1 fan so you defend for the sake of defence. But do you see the can of worms that tweet has opened up. Its not about what you or I think, it puts doping and cycling in the same hole again. Not good for no one in my view. Even if my man Andy Schleck had tweeted that I would have said bad move.
You would never see Ronaldo or Drogba asking why they haven't been tested.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole world had forgotten about cycling's long standing association with doping until Froome's tweet reminded everyone again...
Yeah your just repeating the same thing has Bomp. Tell me, how do you make the connection between doping and cycling go away? by keep talking about it? Better to talk about the racing and the great riders and what great athletes they are. Not keep digging up the same old dirge. Every sport has dopers but cycling unlike other sports has a stronger connection.0 -
tuneskyline wrote:adamfo wrote:frenchfighter wrote:^^Maybe you can tweet him and ask how many times he had been to the UK?
I seem to remember he was asked that during the Tour last year. He answered his father lived in South Africa and a lot of his relatives in England.
BTW. His surname Froome is about as English as you can get. It's old English for place beside the river.There may also be a West Country connection with the town of Frome.
Clive Froome was educated at Rugby school and played Hockey for England Juniors. He sent his two eldest sons, at great expense, to I believe the same school but Chris had to slum it at a rather cheaper establishment in South Africa !
Froome is not English/British. He was born elsewhere. If you want to adopt him and pretend he's English then go ahead. In fact Wiggo was born in Belgium so technically so still no British/English born tour winner although Wiggo has been here most of his life. I mean who really gives a fu$k. I was born in England and I like Andy Schleck so suck on that No wonder That $%$% Nigel Farage is popular.
I was born in Hong Kong and have a British passport. Does that mean I'm not British ?0 -
Someone should also have a word with Mo Farah, I think he was on the wrong team in the Olympics! :roll:adamfo wrote:tuneskyline wrote:adamfo wrote:frenchfighter wrote:^^Maybe you can tweet him and ask how many times he had been to the UK?
I seem to remember he was asked that during the Tour last year. He answered his father lived in South Africa and a lot of his relatives in England.
BTW. His surname Froome is about as English as you can get. It's old English for place beside the river.There may also be a West Country connection with the town of Frome.
Clive Froome was educated at Rugby school and played Hockey for England Juniors. He sent his two eldest sons, at great expense, to I believe the same school but Chris had to slum it at a rather cheaper establishment in South Africa !
Froome is not English/British. He was born elsewhere. If you want to adopt him and pretend he's English then go ahead. In fact Wiggo was born in Belgium so technically so still no British/English born tour winner although Wiggo has been here most of his life. I mean who really gives a fu$k. I was born in England and I like Andy Schleck so suck on that No wonder That $%$% Nigel Farage is popular.
I was born in Hong Kong and have a British passport. Does that mean I'm not British ?0 -
With regard to the nationality thing, a friend of mine has been friends with Froome's brothers since they were at school together (about 20 years ago) and I asked him whether they consider themselves British or Kenyan and he said that he didn't know as he'd never asked them, but he himself had never considered them to be anything other than British.
Not that it really matters. People move around a lot these days. Plenty of bi-nationals.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Above The Cows wrote:tuneskyline wrote:Above The Cows wrote:Oh p*ss off with the born elsewhere crap. No really p*ss off.
Contador, Froome , Martin. Wiggo, etc are all talented riders, who cares where they were born. You pi%% off.
I don't but you seem to be labouring under the false apprehension that an accident of geography seems to have a bearing on a legal-bureaucratic category such as citizenship when there is no intrinsic correlation. A lot of certain other types of people do this, mainly people who start sentences with "some of my best friends are..."
I am not bothered were riders are born. Wiggo is as English as anyone and you could not think anything else. You cannot say that Froome is English in the same way that's all and I have no problem with him having English citizenship but his own roots are African and he his and should be proud of that and we should be happy to accept that and not pretend that he's riddled with cockney 0 -
A persons nationality is what they themselves identify as. For example, the actor Christian Bale was born in Wales, moved to England age 3 and went to school in Bournemouth. After early stage and film work in England he moved to America some time back and has dual nationality. On American chat shows he describes himself as English. Chris Froome said he was English in the interview I mentioned above. He has a British passport and was eligible for one from birth.0
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I thought he was Spanish, didn't they call him Spaniard?0
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adamfo wrote:A persons nationality is what they themselves identify as. For example, the actor Christian Bale was born in Wales, moved to England age 3 and went to school in Bournemouth. After early stage and film work in England he moved to America some time back and has dual nationality. On American chat shows he describes himself as English. Chris Froome said he was English in the interview I mentioned above. He has a British passport and was eligible for one from birth.
Christain Bale his Batman and he was born in GOTHAM. Are Sky trying to sign Batman?0 -
Froome described himself as (paraphrasing here) "a Briton who feels most at home in Africa". Maybe you should do him the courtesy of allowing him to define himself.0
