Giro 2014 - Stage 6 - Sassano-Montecassino * Spoiler *
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Movistar injury report:
The crash did not have major physical consequences for Malori; even after crashing hard, no significant injuries are observed either on Castroviejo's body. With Quintana hit in several parts but not suffering big injuries and a wound in Gorka Izagirre's elbow which does not rule out his continuity in the race, focus was set on Andrey Amador. Pain in his neck at the finish advised him to undergo X-ray checks, which discarded any fractures but revealed a cervical sprain. The Costa Rican is still due to take the start tomorrow on stage seven -211km between Frosinone and Foligno.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Why not different tyres and, if necessary, frames to accommodate them? It's called riding what and then how conditions demand. Like all wheeled sport. :?d.j.
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Hard time today.. But nothing broken.. Give me a few days and i will be ready to go on the attack again.Contador is the Greatest0 -
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It's a hard one to call, it's happened to Evans the other way before so should he lead by example or go off like he did? I know which one is more sportsman like...
If you go to the Giro should you expect antics like this at some point though, the riders all know when the race happens and the roads are always like this. It's a shame as the bad conditions are part of the appeal and help make it such a tough race.
I hope everyone is OK in terms of they will be able to carry on riding (I know a few people are out already but I mean it won't affect their careers), it's not anyone's fault apart from possibly whoever designed the road surface, I don't think it's rider error, when you hit something slippy like that it happens so quickly there is no time to respond a lot of the time.0 -
tom3 wrote:FleshTuxedo wrote:tom3 wrote:There must be some kind of treatment for the roads the morning of the race to properly clean off all the grime, oil etc that is turning the roads to ice when it rains.
They should have cleaned and degreased 257km of roads last night? You don't know where is greasy or where or when it will rain...
Pinch points such as roundabouts where cars stop and drop oil may be a good place to start.
....and the downhills, and the towns, and the bus stops, and the Hgv routes, and the tight corners. Then you'll have it covered, maybe.0 -
So in this new "gentle" cycling, what are the rules?
How many faves need to hit the deck before you sit up and neutralise the race? 20? 10? 2?
What if no faves crash but get held up? Do you stop riding then?
If you're in a group of 5, 2km out from a mountain summit, with a chasing group 40 seconds back, and one of the group falls, should you want? What if 3 of them fall?
Or should we stick to the way cycling has always been : If we're all riding along and someone falls you don't attack then to take advantage. But if you're already attacking / riding hard, you don't stop. That seem pretty fair to me.
Ride Hard then someone has misfortune = ok
Someone has misfortune and you ride hard because of it = badFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Also now being reported as a probable non starter tomorrow by Danish and Polish tv: Rafal Majka.
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Blazing Saddles wrote:Sky DS has said that Ben Swift is doubtful.
(Ben Swift by some way, last man home, so I guess it's true that he won't start, either.)
I thought the DS said no one crashed?0 -
FleshTuxedo wrote:tom3 wrote:FleshTuxedo wrote:tom3 wrote:There must be some kind of treatment for the roads the morning of the race to properly clean off all the grime, oil etc that is turning the roads to ice when it rains.
They should have cleaned and degreased 257km of roads last night? You don't know where is greasy or where or when it will rain...
Pinch points such as roundabouts where cars stop and drop oil may be a good place to start.
....and the downhills, and the towns, and the bus stops, and the Hgv routes, and the tight corners. Then you'll have it covered, maybe.
You are forgetting a quick spray up your behind, just to see if they can flush your head out.... I get your point though, 'twas just trying to offer up a suggestion.0 -
Reactions from various Italian riders (in Italian):
http://www.steephill.tv/players/720/gaz ... 4b&yr=2014Contador is the Greatest0 -
Medical report:At km 246, crash involving several riders. The following athletes were taken to the hospital by ambulance to undergo x-ray investigations; here are the results of the examinations they underwent:
N° 183 Giampaolo Caruso (KAT): contusive trauma of the left femur and multiple abrasions.
N° 188 Angel Vicioso Arcos (KAT): displaced, comminuted fracture of the right femur, contusive trauma of the left hip.
N° 4 Janez Brajkovic (AST): displaced fracture of the left elbow.
N° 68 Davide Villella (CAN): contusive trauma of the left shoulder, abrasions of the right knee; he underwent a TC scan, which revealed a micro-fracture of the left shoulder.
After the end of the stage, the following riders underwent x-ray investigations; here are the results of the examinations they underwent:
N° 181 Joaquin Rodriguez Olivier (KAT): fracture of the first finger of the left hand, fracture of the eighth and ninth left ribs.
N° 154 Brett Lancaster (OGE): spiral fracture of the 4th metacarpus of the right hand.
N° 122 Andrey Amador Bikkazakova (MOV): trauma and spraining of the cervical spine.
N° 43 Rick Flens (BEL): contusive trauma of the left elbow, fracture of the base of the nail phalanx of the second right finger.
N° 31 Stefano Pirazzi (BAR): contusive trauma of the left elbow and hip.
The following riders were medicated after the race:
N° 14 Maxime Bouet (ALM), who sustained multiple bruises and abrasions to his right side and a lacerated wound of the right tibial region.
N° 191 Dario Cataldo (SKY) for multiple abrasions to his left pelvis.Contador is the Greatest0 -
iainf72 wrote:Or should we stick to the way cycling has always been : If we're all riding along and someone falls you don't attack then to take advantage. But if you're already attacking / riding hard, you don't stop. That seem pretty fair to me.
How do you tell if they are riding or racing? It wasn't on the climb was it? They were not trying to create crosswinds were they? The BMC DS himself said he had told his boys to stay up front (likely same with other teams) and not to lose their position as there was a roundabout coming up and they feared the worst.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Kiser road the last 3km witha flat:
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brokey leg.
bone bruise of the femur, and comminuted fracture is apparently one that has broken into several pieces0 -
iainf72 wrote:So in this new "gentle" cycling, what are the rules?
How many faves need to hit the deck before you sit up and neutralise the race? 20? 10? 2?
What if no faves crash but get held up? Do you stop riding then?
If you're in a group of 5, 2km out from a mountain summit, with a chasing group 40 seconds back, and one of the group falls, should you want? What if 3 of them fall?
Or should we stick to the way cycling has always been : If we're all riding along and someone falls you don't attack then to take advantage. But if you're already attacking / riding hard, you don't stop. That seem pretty fair to me.
Ride Hard then someone has misfortune = ok
Someone has misfortune and you ride hard because of it = bad
Where does attacking in bad weather on a treacherous descent feature?
Is that a "real racer coming out to play"?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
frenchfighter wrote:iainf72 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:I really cant believe this. Had Fabu been out front he would have neutralised those idiots. No morals these days not like the old days.
Nonsense. BMC and OGE were already riding really hard on the front. They didn't attack after the crash, they just kept on riding. Which was the right thing to do.
I didnt say they attacked. The right thing would be to sit up. It wasnt like one GC rider went down, almost all the peloton WENT DOWN LIKE SKITTLES. Not a normal crash - due to absolutely unsuitable roads. The Giro needs to avoid this area of the country next time.
I guess Cadel Evans is not confident and is going for every trick in the book. Hope he bonks or crashes and loses a packet. Gone down in my estimation.
This just backs up everything I think about Evans. My least favourite cyclist by some distance.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Armstrong waiting for Ullrich is the first time I can remember it happening (2001?). Certainly no-one waited when they all crashed on the causeway in the 1999 Tour.iainf72 wrote:When did this whole "sit up and wait" nonsense start? It's pretty recent.
One thing's for certain, Hinault and Merckx wouldn't have had their teams drilling it on the front like Evans did. They would have done it themselves to make sure it was done properly.
I don't think much has changed. People don't sit up and wait now except in rare exceptional circumstances e.g. tacks on the road etc.
Equally, I can remember Roche telling Indurain it was poor form to drill it on the front when a rival had punctured / crashed. The equation is always the same: short-term gain vs long term unpopularity, and some riders choose long term unpopularity. Roche usually went for that option despite his advice to Indurain.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:How do you tell if they are riding or racing? It wasn't on the climb was it? They were not trying to create crosswinds were they? The BMC DS himself said he had told his boys to stay up front (likely same with other teams) and not to lose their position as there was a roundabout coming up and they feared the worst.
Have you watched it yet? They were racing a bloc. If you're just riding along why would you be concerned about a roundabout?
I wish the crash hadn't happened - Awful injuries and just terrible. But to say the race should just stop because of it is wrong wrong wrong.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Seems gutted alright now.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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I see the usual suspects are peeing their pants here again.0
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Cadel audio. That totally distinctive voice - innocent little girly voice that he has. He skirts the issue, says he doesnt know what is going on, but thought something went on because the selected group was not looking like your typical selection for this sort of stage:
http://www.bmcracingteam.com/fileadmin/ ... -Evans.mp3Contador is the Greatest0 -
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frenchfighter wrote:Cadel audio. That totally distinctive voice - innocent little girly voice that he has. He skirts the issue, says he doesnt know what is going on, but thought something went on because the selected group was not looking like your typical selection for this sort of stage:
http://www.bmcracingteam.com/fileadmin/ ... -Evans.mp3
These incidents will always split opinion. Having never raced, I don't know if Evans should have sat up but like someone said earlier, if Sean Kelly thinks it was legit then that's good enough for me.
On the other hand, i know that you'd be defending Contador if he had done the same thing and so does everybody else. Comments like "innocent little girly voice" make you sound like a 12 yr old.0 -
Cadel has had his own share of bad luck. He was at the front ripping it up and what happened behind his not his fault.
If other riders cannot stay on 2 wheels and he can why should he or any of the others lose their advantage. If the other contenders had been up their with Evans and co their would be a lot less whinging on this site. Its racing and these things happen. If some moron had thrown tacks or oil on the road then fair enough stop the race but they did not.
Just race. Keep it simple and if you ride your luck then you win if not then you lose. I think most top riders have had good and bad luck. Remember Fab halting the tour to let the Schlecks back on then riding off on a different stage because his boys were safe. That was boll$ks. Just Race. I hope Cadel wins but it's a long way to go and it should make for some exciting racing. Quintana has done nothing this year. He looks Cr%p and this is a good excuse for him if he does not step up to the plate.0 -
k1875 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Cadel audio. That totally distinctive voice - innocent little girly voice that he has. He skirts the issue, says he doesnt know what is going on, but thought something went on because the selected group was not looking like your typical selection for this sort of stage:
http://www.bmcracingteam.com/fileadmin/ ... -Evans.mp3
These incidents will always split opinion. Having never raced, I don't know if Evans should have sat up but like someone said earlier, if Sean Kelly thinks it was legit then that's good enough for me.
On the other hand, i know that you'd be defending Contador if he had done the same thing and so does everybody else. Comments like "innocent little girly voice" make you sound like a 12 yr old.
Yeah, FF do you think Contador should have waited for Schleck when he dropped his chain?
I don't and I don't think Ulrich should have waited for Armstrong if he did. Just race.0 -
k1875 wrote:i know
No you dont. If Contador had done something similar (doubt it), then I would have been talking him down.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Today was good for Quintana on many counts.
Evans isn't a threat, he's just a dog, and will crumble over the next week.
Aru has a chance to show how good he is now.
Majka, who knows whether he will race, but if he does, he could have a chance.
Uran still there.
Quintana's main threats have been removed today in J-Rod and Arredondo.0
