Giro 2014 - Stage 6 - Sassano-Montecassino * Spoiler *

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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    RichN95 wrote:
    Every single stage BMC work their butts off to keep Evans right up the front out of trouble just in case something like this happens. So I don't see why they should stop riding now because other teams don't.


    Word.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Those who have lost the Giro today.
    JRod
    Scarponi
    Niemiec

    and still counting......
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    Milton50 wrote:
    You can see the difference between Evans and Quintana. Evans just put everything in to gaining every second he possibly could, it didn't matter who a lead out for the finish.

    When Quintana ran out of domestiques he just sat up and waited for someone else to do something rather than taking responisbility himself.

    Agreed ... NQ didn't look up for the fight ... and that's why he shouldn't be in this race ...
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Nightmare. That muppet Evans has luckily gained a huge amount today. Bollocks.
  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    Crankbrother wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    You can see the difference between Evans and Quintana. Evans just put everything in to gaining every second he possibly could, it didn't matter who a lead out for the finish.

    When Quintana ran out of domestiques he just sat up and waited for someone else to do something rather than taking responisbility himself.

    Agreed ... NQ didn't look up for the fight ... and that's why he shouldn't be in this race ...

    A bit premature I think. Those seconds wont look like much when Evans cracks in the high mountains.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Crankbrother wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    You can see the difference between Evans and Quintana. Evans just put everything in to gaining every second he possibly could, it didn't matter who a lead out for the finish.

    When Quintana ran out of domestiques he just sat up and waited for someone else to do something rather than taking responisbility himself.

    Agreed ... NQ didn't look up for the fight ... and that's why he shouldn't be in this race ...

    Quintana knows that he will stuff Evans in the mountains. Evans will run out of steam in a few days.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    RichN95 wrote:
    Every single stage BMC work their butts off to keep Evans right up the front out of trouble just in case something like this happens. So I don't see why they should stop riding now because other teams don't.

    Strong point. But he's also been on the receiving end of sporting gestures when at the sharp end of GTs - tackgate for instance where the entire BMC team made a point of thanking team cars for waiting.

    Unsportsmanlike behaviour given scale of the crash.
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  • ellerslierd
    ellerslierd Posts: 266
    calvjones wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Every single stage BMC work their butts off to keep Evans right up the front out of trouble just in case something like this happens. So I don't see why they should stop riding now because other teams don't.


    Word.

    +1
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Yes he has a history of doing really badly in Grand Tours does evans... :roll:
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nightmare. That muppet Evans has luckily gained a huge amount today. ****.

    As the man in the supermarket said to me last week ... Tranquillo ...
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    meagain wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Sometimes pro cycling amazes me. We spend all day complaining nobody's racing, then when they start racing everyone complains it's the wrong moment!
    Not really a race though when a load of riders are held up by a crash that leaves one rider in a serious state?

    BUT that's the essence of a RACE surely? Had to be right to press on.

    It may be a bit unpalatable for some but let's remember we're all armchair pros on this forum (well almost exclusively)

    If Kelly thinks it's OK then when it comes between people on this forum and Sean Kelly,I know whose opinion I hold in higher regard
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Evans in a good position now but his team are going to need to work really hard after that. I didn't see the crash, was it a case of using it to attack or did they just keep riding? I think there's a subtle difference but as Rich says, you work hard to stay out of trouble using more effort and this sort of thing is the reward. Anyone got time gaps? I saw a few on a very bad stream at 47 seconds which I think included Uran and I saw what I thought was Cataldo about another minute back. Couldn't make out the likes of Scarponi, Basso, J Rod or Quintana due to the picture quality.
  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    ddraver wrote:
    Yes he has a history of doing really badly in Grand Tours does evans... :roll:

    He's a great rider but he has lost time in the high mountain stages in 2012 and 2013 GTs.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    He's usually the one without the headstart though
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Many of the main favourites out. Purito, Majka, Arredondo all gone.
  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    Report coming through that Joaquim Rodriguez came through 7:23 down on the leaders...

    Oof!
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Joelsim wrote:
    Many of the main favourites out. Purito, Majka, Arredondo all gone.


    Out or just lost too much time?
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Joelsim wrote:
    Nightmare. That muppet Evans has luckily gained a huge amount today. ****.

    Really ?
    RichN95 wrote:
    Every single stage BMC work their butts off to keep Evans right up the front out of trouble just in case something like this happens. So I don't see why they should stop riding now because other teams don't.

    Maybe BMC are just being a bit more pro-active than some of the other teams
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Pross wrote:
    Evans in a good position now but his team are going to need to work really hard after that. I didn't see the crash, was it a case of using it to attack or did they just keep riding?
    I didn't see, but Kelly said something to the effect of "The race was on, they just kept going"
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    How did the crash happen? I assume it was on the approach to the climb. I switched on and saw BMC drilling it and the race in tatters and thought the hill had been tougher than I'd expected.

    PTP stage results should be neutralised I reckon ;-)
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Pross wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Many of the main favourites out. Purito, Majka, Arredondo all gone.


    Out or just lost too much time?

    J-Rod 7.23 down. Majka and Arredondo not times yet but it is more than Purito.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Still with so many decent riders losing big chunks of time they have now got nothing to lose going forward so we might see more attacking riding for stage wins.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Pross wrote:
    How did the crash happen? I assume it was on the approach to the climb. I switched on and saw BMC drilling it and the race in tatters and thought the hill had been tougher than I'd expected.
    They were approaching a roundabout and riders just started sliding off their bikes on the wet tarmac
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Pross wrote:
    How did the crash happen? I assume it was on the approach to the climb. I switched on and saw BMC drilling it and the race in tatters and thought the hill had been tougher than I'd expected.

    PTP stage results should be neutralised I reckon ;-)

    The main crash was an approach to a roundabout. Probably just oil on the roads so any attempt to break just put the bikes down
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    I'm always in two minds about whether they should race on. It felt wrong today to me, but what do I know?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Still with so many decent riders losing big chunks of time they have now got nothing to lose going forward so we might see more attacking riding for stage wins.

    Yep, could be the making of the race after a rubbish start. Who is left with a reasonable chance? That said, Evans has been prone to cracking recently (albeit at the Tour rather than the Giro) in the big mountains and could potentially lose a few minutes.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    Report coming through that Joaquim Rodriguez came through 7:23 down on the leaders...

    Oof!

    I assume he'll now just retire and turn up 100% fresh for the Vuelta. Maybe he'll try and win the Zoncolan stage but I don't think trying to scrape yet another GT top 5 will interest him.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    I have absolutely no faith in Evans staying close to Quintana in the high mountains in the 3rd week. But then again, Quintana hasn't exactly looked like Quintana this year.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Pross wrote:

    PTP stage results should be neutralised I reckon ;-)
    I think the GC results should be neutralised too. And I would definitely still think this if I hadn't picked Rodriguez
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  • ellerslierd
    ellerslierd Posts: 266
    Good work by the Lampre rider who avoids Brajkovic et al. in the crash that was caught on camera

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