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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Maybe I am just noticing other commentators more (probably because their commentary is usually so much better), but it does seem that CK isn't as prevalent as he used to be? Route du Sud commentary pretty good today (not CK).

    Presuambly he's doing le man, which is a big ol' shift.

    I'm now not so upset that I'm missing the race this weekend. he's better on motor racing as less chance to waffle on about a load of rubbish
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    sherer wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Maybe I am just noticing other commentators more (probably because their commentary is usually so much better), but it does seem that CK isn't as prevalent as he used to be? Route du Sud commentary pretty good today (not CK).

    Presuambly he's doing le man, which is a big ol' shift.

    I'm now not so upset that I'm missing the race this weekend. he's better on motor racing as less chance to waffle on about a load of rubbish

    You clearly are not a fan of the 12-3am shift, where you, rather wonderfully, get whole laps with uninterrupted on board footage.

    The downside is, the commentators begin to lose the plot, before, like the sun, gaining their senses with the rising light.
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  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    edited June 2017
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Maybe I am just noticing other commentators more (probably because their commentary is usually so much better), but it does seem that CK isn't as prevalent as he used to be? Route du Sud commentary pretty good today (not CK).

    I think it's that they're showing more (and sometimes they are events that overlap). This week alone you have Quigley in Switzerland so someone will be at Eurosport Towers in London to do Route Du Sud and also Slovenia.

    Edit: It was Jonathan Harris-Bass today at Rud Du Sud.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    sherer wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Maybe I am just noticing other commentators more (probably because their commentary is usually so much better), but it does seem that CK isn't as prevalent as he used to be? Route du Sud commentary pretty good today (not CK).

    Presuambly he's doing le man, which is a big ol' shift.

    I'm now not so upset that I'm missing the race this weekend. he's better on motor racing as less chance to waffle on about a load of rubbish

    You clearly are not a fan of the 12-3am shift, where you, rather wonderfully, get whole laps with uninterrupted on board footage.

    The downside is, the commentators begin to lose the plot, before, like the sun, gaining their senses with the rising light.

    I've seen the night shift before where it's just onboard after onboard.. Althouhg I am looking forward to seeing more of Louise Beckett this weekend
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    sherer wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Maybe I am just noticing other commentators more (probably because their commentary is usually so much better), but it does seem that CK isn't as prevalent as he used to be? Route du Sud commentary pretty good today (not CK).

    Presuambly he's doing le man, which is a big ol' shift.

    I'm now not so upset that I'm missing the race this weekend. he's better on motor racing as less chance to waffle on about a load of rubbish

    You clearly are not a fan of the 12-3am shift, where you, rather wonderfully, get whole laps with uninterrupted on board footage.

    The downside is, the commentators begin to lose the plot, before, like the sun, gaining their senses with the rising light.


    but he's perfect for those slots, you bring in Neville Hay too with a bottle of red purloined from the near michelin star'd pop up restaurant the journalists have been whiling away the hours in, and those two will wax lyrical about absolutely nothing for hours and hours, it becomes like TMS during a rain break and whilst theres stuff happening on track its not really needing to be commentated on and you learn so much more about the sport/behind the scenes/how things work.

    if only the cycling commentating was as much fun to listen to.
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    RichN95 wrote:
    awavey wrote:
    ok so hes covering the Dauphine right, and Ive seen pictures of him in France this last week...how was he commentating on the Rapha Nocturne ??
    You haven't seen pictures of him in France. He's not in France

    you're right, I thought sure Id seen him post a picture of a post stage, glass of red wine recovery drink whilst sitting with a very gallic vista view, but nope must have been someone tweeting him about Le Mans this week, as he is definitely in France now :)
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,719
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    I think he is getting better. Truly.

    No he isnt.


    ohhhhh yes he is*



    *maybe I have a level of immunity now.
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    well having caught Le Mans I can safely say he managed to ruin that too. Has he not realised he isn't employed as a comedian. Add in the fact he's not funny and you have someone spouting driver and jokes that don't make any sense just to end up being ignored by his co commentators.

    The other thing I noticed is he images something will happen in his head, and then commentates on that, rather than what is actually happening. He does the same in cycling where he starts going Sagan is going for a long one as he's assumed he's going for the sprint, when he's leading about Bennett etc
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    sherer wrote:
    well having caught Le Mans I can safely say he managed to ruin that too. Has he not realised he isn't employed as a comedian. Add in the fact he's not funny and you have someone spouting driver and jokes that don't make any sense just to end up being ignored by his co commentators.

    The other thing I noticed is he images something will happen in his head, and then commentates on that, rather than what is actually happening. He does the same in cycling where he starts going Sagan is going for a long one as he's assumed he's going for the sprint, when he's leading about Bennett etc

    was alright during practice/qualy sessions, but it sounded like they had some weird vision setup in that they were seeing world feed pictures, but that wasnt always what Eurosport were showing at the same time, so they were commentating on bits that werent matching the pictures, and in practice/qualy they had the time to correct themselves, but in the race they seemed to completely forget that at some points.

    but yeah he did go into full stage finish mode on those last last laps Aston/Chevy battle :roll: I switched back to Radio Le Mans, and no late night/early morning session this time either so couldnt even redeem that :(
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    awavey wrote:
    sherer wrote:
    well having caught Le Mans I can safely say he managed to ruin that too. Has he not realised he isn't employed as a comedian. Add in the fact he's not funny and you have someone spouting driver and jokes that don't make any sense just to end up being ignored by his co commentators.

    The other thing I noticed is he images something will happen in his head, and then commentates on that, rather than what is actually happening. He does the same in cycling where he starts going Sagan is going for a long one as he's assumed he's going for the sprint, when he's leading about Bennett etc

    was alright during practice/qualy sessions, but it sounded like they had some weird vision setup in that they were seeing world feed pictures, but that wasnt always what Eurosport were showing at the same time, so they were commentating on bits that werent matching the pictures, and in practice/qualy they had the time to correct themselves, but in the race they seemed to completely forget that at some points.

    but yeah he did go into full stage finish mode on those last last laps Aston/Chevy battle :roll: I switched back to Radio Le Mans, and no late night/early morning session this time either so couldnt even redeem that :(

    The Aston \ Chevy battle seemed to be where he lost it. At one point he had assumed the Aston would try and slipstream another car, and then continued to commentate on that despite the pictures showing that wasn't happening.

    They did seem to have an issue where the replays weren't being shown on their monitor, they just had the world feed, but that still doesn't explain the rubbish jokes he tried to come up with all the time
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,719
    Some of his puns on Twitter are funny.

    I am going to stick up for him twice now... he's better than P&P.

    Do I prefer Hatch ? Yes but thats personal preference rather than anti CK.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    He mentioned Yoann Offredo earlier, before exclaiming how "He's not afraid to attack, doh"
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    CK is exactly what would happen if Tony Blackburn ever turned his hand to sports commentary
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    PoweredByIdris wrote:
    CK is exactly what would happen if Tony Blackburn ever turned his hand to sports commentary
    Tony Blackburn used to occasionally come and watch me play football at school*. He didn't commentate.


    (*It's possible he was there to watch his son who was also in the team rather than me)
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Shall we make a new CK Bingo for the Tour? Or a CK Drinking Game.

    I see Si Clarke and Turbo Durbo are both riding...
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Shall we make a new CK Bingo for the Tour? Or a CK Drinking Game.

    I see Si Clarke and Turbo Durbo are both riding...

    If they're on the list, you'd be wankered within the hour
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • vinnymarsden
    vinnymarsden Posts: 560
    If I had a quid for everytime he uses that classic "he's lighting the afterburners" I would be a rich man..or the friendly little nickname Eddy Van Boss!!!
    He is so bad its worth listening to see how wrong he gets it!!!
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    VinnyMarsden wrote:
    If I had a quid for everytime he uses that classic "he's lighting the afterburners" I would be a rich man..or the friendly little nickname Eddy Van Boss!!!
    He is so bad its worth listening to see how wrong he gets it!!!
    it may have been mildly amusing when he first came along to hear his shouty style. Once you realise he has very little knowledge of the sport and just uses some copy and paste identikit commentary, peppered with the odd racist insult, it crosses the line into bad commentary.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    RichN95 wrote:
    PoweredByIdris wrote:
    CK is exactly what would happen if Tony Blackburn ever turned his hand to sports commentary
    Tony Blackburn used to occasionally come and watch me play football at school*. He didn't commentate.


    (*It's possible he was there to watch his son who was also in the team rather than me)

    70s Radio 1 DJ hanging around watching groups of children? Surely not!
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    For all Kirby's many faults he would have made the presentation tonight interesting, Jon Harris-Bass wasn't able IMO to carry it off at all.
  • 6wheels
    6wheels Posts: 411
    Hopefully, CK and SK will be doing the Tour on Eurosport-soon find out.
  • tim000
    tim000 Posts: 718
    thankfully ITV have full coverage of the tour . from the start of every stage . freeview plus primed and ready .
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    6wheels wrote:
    Hopefully, CK and SK will be doing the Tour on Eurosport-soon find out.

    It's Kirby, Kelly and Hatch with Harris-Bass, with others dropping in I believe.
  • 6wheels
    6wheels Posts: 411
    argyllflyer wrote:
    6wheels wrote:
    Hopefully, CK and SK will be doing the Tour on Eurosport-soon find out.

    It's Kirby, Kelly and Hatch with Harris-Bass, with others dropping in I believe.

    Thamks argllflyer, you always know what's going on.
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    CK's comments about Nairo cheering the Valverde crash have, rightly, caused a bit of a 'to-do' on Twitter. Wholly inappropriate commentary, CK now claiming he didn't know it was a serious crash. Idiot! The crash looked nasty, in the light of some very serious (and some fatal) crashes in what alternative reality could his commentary ever be deemed appropriate?
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    CK's comments about Nairo cheering the Valverde crash have, rightly, caused a bit of a 'to-do' on Twitter. Wholly inappropriate commentary, CK now claiming he didn't know it was a serious crash. Idiot! The crash looked nasty, in the light of some very serious (and some fatal) crashes in what alternative reality could his commentary ever be deemed appropriate?

    i'd suggest anyone who doesn't like the comments to tweet Eurosport and let them know what you think. They may not be best buddies to suggest Nairo wanted him to crash is well wide of the mark.

    He said a few other rubbish comments too but im starting to learn to tune him out now
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    argyllflyer wrote:
    For all Kirby's many faults he would have made the presentation tonight interesting, Jon Harris-Bass wasn't able IMO to carry it off at all.

    I genuinely think the greatest commentator in the world* would have struggled to have made the team presentation interesting.


    * Really have absolutely no idea who that might be
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    CK's comments about Nairo cheering the Valverde crash have, rightly, caused a bit of a 'to-do' on Twitter. Wholly inappropriate commentary, CK now claiming he didn't know it was a serious crash. Idiot! The crash looked nasty, in the light of some very serious (and some fatal) crashes in what alternative reality could his commentary ever be deemed appropriate?

    Wasn't the comment more along the lines of Nairo having a wry smile about it.

    Tons of riders had come off already on that corner, his official role was to support Nairo, so he goes steaming into the corner...
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Jez mon wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    CK's comments about Nairo cheering the Valverde crash have, rightly, caused a bit of a 'to-do' on Twitter. Wholly inappropriate commentary, CK now claiming he didn't know it was a serious crash. Idiot! The crash looked nasty, in the light of some very serious (and some fatal) crashes in what alternative reality could his commentary ever be deemed appropriate?

    Wasn't the comment more along the lines of Nairo having a wry smile about it.

    Tons of riders had come off already on that corner, his official role was to support Nairo, so he goes steaming into the corner...

    Valverde is most useful when he's within striking distance of yellow.
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Interview with Kirby from his local rag

    http://www.essentialsurrey.co.uk/celebr ... de-france/
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