Could you guys tell if this bike is a counterfeit?
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BillyMansell wrote:Russyh wrote:Did you not see the bit where it was discovered that it was a spesh field test bike? And as such "apparently" not a Chinese copy
Bought a few things over the years knowing they were fakes. I can confirm the Chinese are very good indeed at copying packaging / tags / stickers / barcodes / even holograms.0 -
Was it declared by Specialized as a field test bike, or just confirmed by barcode? If Spesh are saying that the bike is a field test bike I will assume the bike is legit, otherwise they would not have the serial number details.0
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BillyMansell wrote:It's a small thing I know but I would expect someone owning a genuine high-end bike to have such interest in their bike and fundamental knowledge about bikes to know which way round the front wheel should go.
The wheel is in the right way round.
It's the quick release that's the wrong way round.
Agree though....not a good sign0 -
It seems a little strange that the OP hasn't posted a picture of this actual bar code. Just one from online and the message "it has a sticker like this one"
The whole things smells a little to me. Especially the sellers story!!0 -
Old pics. Right now, I have shimano c24's on there as of now. I'll post more pictures tomorrow.0 -
TheFD wrote:It seems a little strange that the OP hasn't posted a picture of this actual bar code. Just one from online and the message "it has a sticker like this one"
The whole things smells a little to me. Especially the sellers story!!
Really? If I was faking a Specialized, the last model I'd try to fake is one which looks superficially like a fake and only convincing to people who know a lot about Specialized bikes. It's going to be far easier to take someone in with a bike with a half convincing paint job like the ropey Dogma fakes.Faster than a tent.......0 -
That thing is just monstrousScott Speedster S20 Roadie for Speed
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goonz wrote:That thing is just monstrous
I'm I the only one who thinks it doesn't look bad, it just looks like a road bike. A lot of road bike frames look the same to me.
If I had to choose between two similar spec bikes I'd pick the one with the nicest paint. As I see little difference in the frame and I doubt one road bike frame will be noticeably quicker than another similar frame. I quite like the paint on the Team Liquigas Cannondale Supersix."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
ben@31 wrote:goonz wrote:That thing is just monstrous
I'm I the only one who thinks it doesn't look bad, it just looks like a road bike. A lot of road bike frames look the same to me.
If I had to choose between two similar spec bikes I'd pick the one with the nicest paint. As I see little difference in the frame and I doubt one road bike frame will be noticeably quicker than another similar frame. I quite like the paint on the Team Liquigas Cannondale Supersix.argon 18 e116 2013 Vision Metron 80
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Wow - Some of you guys are full of it.
Stating opinion as fact doesn't make it fact.
I haven't counted but probably half the posts in this thread are assertions that the bike is hideous and/or obviously a fake. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, we're all fashion victims to some extent but seriously, get a grip. A plain black bike doesn't look half bad to me. If you're not obsessed with "prestige" then it doesn't matter a damn if your venge says venge on it. As to whether it's fake. Sure this one wasn't obviously genuine but nor is/was it a fake. A bit of objectivity would be nice.0 -
Rolf F wrote:TheFD wrote:It seems a little strange that the OP hasn't posted a picture of this actual bar code. Just one from online and the message "it has a sticker like this one"
The whole things smells a little to me. Especially the sellers story!!
Really? If I was faking a Specialized, the last model I'd try to fake is one which looks superficially like a fake and only convincing to people who know a lot about Specialized bikes. It's going to be far easier to take someone in with a bike with a half convincing paint job like the ropey Dogma fakes.0 -
Objectivity? This is bike radar. None of that around here. I was told that my pride and joy spesh roubaix was plug ugly ... Apparently for no other reason than it has those insert things on it. Makes no odds to me... I like it and the usual rissole bike snobs that seem to think that the sun shines out of their own rear end can go and spin...0
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Looks cool, and the cool factor of being able to tell most people with the same bike that mine is the test bike adds lots of bragging points.0
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Bitch!0
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Oooerrr, didn't think that was a rude word!0
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I reckon it was *****0
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Nah, none of those... I would never use that kind of language...0
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I wouldn't buy it. As people have said earlier it could look identical to a certain carbon fiber bike, if its come of the same mould, but if a cheaper grade fiber has been used, or the proper processes haven't been followed it will be no where near a strong as it should be. The other possibility is it is a genuine frame what some one has crashed, then had repainted hide scratches or cracks. Either way I wouldn't think about buying it. (And probably wouldn't think about buying a 2nd hand carbon bike from anyone apart from a close friend.)0
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Ai_1 wrote:Wow - Some of you guys are full of it.
Stating opinion as fact doesn't make it fact.
I haven't counted but probably half the posts in this thread are assertions that the bike is hideous and/or obviously a fake. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, we're all fashion victims to some extent but seriously, get a grip. A plain black bike doesn't look half bad to me. If you're not obsessed with "prestige" then it doesn't matter a damn if your venge says venge on it. As to whether it's fake. Sure this one wasn't obviously genuine but nor is/was it a fake. A bit of objectivity would be nice.
The OP asked for opinions on whether the frame is counterfeit so people are free to give their views on this point. As for it being fugly, even the OP thinks it is and has already bought numerous parts to remedy this.0 -
BillyMansell wrote:Ai_1 wrote:Wow - Some of you guys are full of it.
Stating opinion as fact doesn't make it fact.
I haven't counted but probably half the posts in this thread are assertions that the bike is hideous and/or obviously a fake. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, we're all fashion victims to some extent but seriously, get a grip. A plain black bike doesn't look half bad to me. If you're not obsessed with "prestige" then it doesn't matter a damn if your venge says venge on it. As to whether it's fake. Sure this one wasn't obviously genuine but nor is/was it a fake. A bit of objectivity would be nice.
The OP asked for opinions on whether the frame is counterfeit so people are free to give their views on this point. As for it being fugly, even the OP thinks it is and has already bought numerous parts to remedy this.0 -
Ai_1 wrote:BillyMansell wrote:Ai_1 wrote:Wow - Some of you guys are full of it.
Stating opinion as fact doesn't make it fact.
I haven't counted but probably half the posts in this thread are assertions that the bike is hideous and/or obviously a fake. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, we're all fashion victims to some extent but seriously, get a grip. A plain black bike doesn't look half bad to me. If you're not obsessed with "prestige" then it doesn't matter a damn if your venge says venge on it. As to whether it's fake. Sure this one wasn't obviously genuine but nor is/was it a fake. A bit of objectivity would be nice.
The OP asked for opinions on whether the frame is counterfeit so people are free to give their views on this point. As for it being fugly, even the OP thinks it is and has already bought numerous parts to remedy this.0 -
I can't see Specialized letting a "Field-Test" bike out of their sight (and when no longer required, are probably destroyed), so I would say this is highly likely to be a fake.0
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junglist_matty wrote:I can't see Specialized letting a "Field-Test" bike out of their sight (and when no longer required, are probably destroyed), so I would say this is highly likely to be a fake.
If you read earlier you'll see the seller bought it from a lost shipping auction.0 -
lawrences wrote:junglist_matty wrote:I can't see Specialized letting a "Field-Test" bike out of their sight (and when no longer required, are probably destroyed), so I would say this is highly likely to be a fake.
If you read earlier you'll see the seller bought it from somebody claiming it came from a lost shipping auction.
To be more accurate0 -
Well good on OP if he's managed to get a bike like that for the price he paid.
I do wonder what happened to final test bikes, bikes used for reviews and even bikes used on tours etc.
Where do they all go? Someone is getting a bargain.0 -
keef66 wrote:lawrences wrote:junglist_matty wrote:I can't see Specialized letting a "Field-Test" bike out of their sight (and when no longer required, are probably destroyed), so I would say this is highly likely to be a fake.
If you read earlier you'll see the seller bought it from somebody claiming it came from a lost shipping auction.
To be more accurate
No it isn't
The guy who sold it says he bought it from a freight auction. You've gone and added an extra link in the chain.0 -
Why the hell would anyone fake a test bike/sticker? It makes no sense and that suggests it's genuine.0
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michael_roadie wrote:Why the hell would anyone fake a test bike/sticker? It makes no sense and that suggests it's genuine.0