Could you guys tell if this bike is a counterfeit?

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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    It could be a perfectly reasonable, working roller.

    I would stay away.

    Looks Fugly for a kick off. I don't like specialized designs anyway, have always thought they look like mutants or too sloping like kids geometry bike looks.

    Could be re-painted? - if so, why?

    The wheels look strange too. the Chinese Carbons look more genuine than this ! :lol:

    The wheels look like Campag Shamals....
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  • dwanes
    dwanes Posts: 954
    sungminyoo, What are your thoughts on it?

    (I wish OP's would have the courtesy to respond to their own threads now and again)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 41,125
    cougie wrote:
    Bound to be a fake. Why would someone take a premium bike and make it look like a Chinese copy ?

    And he's not even cleaned it properly.

    They'd probably also have proper pedals on it.

    I'm in the 'so ugly I wouldn't touch it if genuine' camp.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    To be fair those pedals may have been added to sell it where he replaced his pedals with these...
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 41,125
    Most people would either photograph the bike with the proper pedals but exclude them from the sale in the description or just photograph it without pedals if that were the case (even new bikes are pictured without pedals).
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Either way the bike just looks wrong and I would crack up if I saw a bike looking like that on a club ride.
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  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    goonz wrote:
    It could be a perfectly reasonable, working roller.

    I would stay away.

    Looks Fugly for a kick off. I don't like specialized designs anyway, have always thought they look like mutants or too sloping like kids geometry bike looks.

    Could be re-painted? - if so, why?

    The wheels look strange too. the Chinese Carbons look more genuine than this ! :lol:

    The wheels look like Campag Shamals....
    Hubs are marked ('branded'?) as Roval. See the later pics.

    Can't believe anyone would de-badge a Venge. Looks fugly anyway but the gloss doesn't help.
  • dwanes wrote:
    IT LOOKS AWFUL.


    Specialized copy .... Specialized bike are ugly in genuine scenarios never mind fakes !
  • The only way to tell, is to ride it and see if it rides like an expensive bike :shock:
  • lawrences
    lawrences Posts: 1,011
    The only way to tell, is to ride it and see if it rides like an expensive bike :shock:

    Well not really. You could just check the frame number.
  • Sorry for not updating, I've been really busy lately.

    When I went to check it out, the owner had no idea about bikes and supposedly bought it from a unclaimed freight auction. I got the whole thing for only 600. Had a serial # sticker on the bottom and already sent it to specialized for confirmation. For now, I slapped my C24's and ordered some new force cranksets to replace the hideous white specialized ones.
  • russyh
    russyh Posts: 1,375
    Let's see some more pics of it now then!
  • noodleman
    noodleman Posts: 852
    sungminyoo wrote:
    Sorry for not updating, I've been really busy lately.

    When I went to check it out, the owner had no idea about bikes and supposedly bought it from a unclaimed freight auction. I got the whole thing for only 600. Had a serial # sticker on the bottom and already sent it to specialized for confirmation. For now, I slapped my C24's and ordered some new force cranksets to replace the hideous white specialized ones.
    Hope it works out for you but from your description of the seller, it sounds a bit dodgy.
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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Extremely dodgy. I highly doubt it is a venge now.
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  • Strith
    Strith Posts: 541
    Best get riding then.
  • will be interesting to find out if it is genuine.

    if its off a boat it could be a prototype frame or a unfinished frame from the factory. Its too similar in detail.
    the specialized components on it are strange too.... why not stick the logo on the frame ???

    is it as ugly in real life? :lol:
  • I cannot tell, I wouldn't ride it unless I could. I'd hang it on a wall if I could get a decal kit for it, however that's likely to be a copy too!
  • Hey guys, I just found this sticker on the bottom of the top tube, it looks exactly like this

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pho ... ank/180926

    It reads:
    2012 Venge Rev 9
    Field Test Bikes

    With a bar code. Anyone familiar with this?
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Ah so it is genuine just a debadged ride for testing. Paint seems to match too. Still effin fugly though.
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  • russyh
    russyh Posts: 1,375
    There cold be some great before and after pics of this bike. Hopefully you will keep us updated with its progress.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Yes like a new paint job to start.
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  • Yep, I will keep this updated.

    Parts ordered:
    Sram Force 22 Exogram
    Shimano C24 Dura Ace

    Should come out nicely as a semi stealth look
  • sungminyoo wrote:
    Yep, I will keep this updated.

    Parts ordered:
    Sram Force 22 Exogram
    Shimano C24 Dura Ace

    Should come out nicely as a semi stealth look
    If you're going to change most the components then you've ended up paying an awful lot more than necessary for what is almost certainly a Chinese copy frame, although you could sell the old components to recoup some of your money.
  • russyh
    russyh Posts: 1,375
    Did you not see the bit where it was discovered that it was a spesh field test bike? And as such "apparently" not a Chinese copy
  • Russyh wrote:
    Did you not see the bit where it was discovered that it was a spesh field test bike? And as such "apparently" not a Chinese copy
    Me bad, although if the Chinese can copy frames I'm sure they could copy stickers
  • dilemna
    dilemna Posts: 2,187
    £600 for a bike with a dodgy provenance. You must be bonkers. The pedals are the biggest give away it's not what it is pretending to be. Avoid. Buy in haste repent at leisure.

    Caveat Emptor.
    Life is like a roll of toilet paper; long and useful, but always ends at the wrong moment. Anon.
    Think how stupid the average person is.......
    half of them are even more stupid than you first thought.
  • kajjal
    kajjal Posts: 3,380
    dilemna wrote:
    £600 for a bike with a dodgy provenance. You must be bonkers. The pedals are the biggest give away it's not what it is pretending to be. Avoid. Buy in haste repent at leisure.

    Caveat Emptor.

    That is exactly how the Chinese do business.
  • Been following this with interest any word from specialized yet?
  • have you tried scanning the barcode? you can download an app for any smart phone
  • dilemna
    dilemna Posts: 2,187
    Kajjal wrote:
    dilemna wrote:
    £600 for a bike with a dodgy provenance. You must be bonkers. The pedals are the biggest give away it's not what it is pretending to be. Avoid. Buy in haste repent at leisure.

    Caveat Emptor.

    That is exactly how the Chinese do business.

    As sellers or buyers?
    Life is like a roll of toilet paper; long and useful, but always ends at the wrong moment. Anon.
    Think how stupid the average person is.......
    half of them are even more stupid than you first thought.